Re: [CTRL] 010.000 HATE SPEECH
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On Wed, 9 Dec 1998, Sno0wl wrote:
I admit Joshua2 has gone overboard but in the past two decades, it
seems to me that it hasn't been "liberal white males" but
conservatives--mostly Republicans, but conservatives of every stripe
who have fought against ERA, against abortion and a woman's right to
choose, and done everything in their power to keep women in the
kitchen. The corporate wife and the gracious hostess is the
conservative model.
Reread my posts regarding Liberals/liberals,
Conservatives/conservatives
Liberals of the capital-L variety give lip service to all the causes you
name, but not only do NOT practice such philosophies, but for the most
part actively work to see that they are NOT enforced in their direct
spheres, whether that be employment, or in their private lives...
But they'll be the first to give lipservice to 'empowering minorities',
all the while making sure that any minorities in their personal vacinity
are NOT empowered...
This is versus liberals of the small-L variety, who don't go around
crowing about their philosophy, they just DO it...
In your statement above, I have found that it has been Conservatives of
the capital-C variety who give lipservice to 'whatever' (usually whatever
opposes what the Liberals of the capital-L variety are espousing)
But I have found conservatives of the small-c variety actually more
'empowering' of various minorities in their day-to-day dealings...but
they just DO it as a matter of course, they don't go about preaching
about it, nor trying to legislate that everyone else do the same...
Even today most women in public roles are praised for beautification
projects, interior decorating, hospital visits and involvement with
children--even Princess Di fits this bill.
Don't blame Conservatives/conservatives for this...this is the VERY role
that Liberals put women into...
Admittedly, most men have had trouble grasping what it is that "women
want", but it seems to me that those who define themselves as
"liberal" have made more of an effort to understand than most.
I have found the opposite...I have found Liberal males just want a woman
to be in a supportive role, while I have found conservatives (not the
capitalization) have been putting women into more roles that have REAL
substance (instead of just a title for show, with no real power)...
But most people who hung their hopes on the Liberals as the 'saviours of
women' have a problem seeing the real truth as to how those Liberals
really treat women...
Sounds like you have had a bad experience and have your own axe to
grind.
Not really...just day-to-day living, meeting men who espouse various
philosophies...and I've never met a male of the Liberal variety who EVER
gave up power to women in any sort of organization, and rarely in their
personal lives...in respect to women, such men espouse Liberalism as a
euphemism for 'free sex', but expect the women in their sphere to stay in
the background baking cookies and brewing coffee when anything of
substance is being planned...
June
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[CTRL] 010.000 HATE SPEECH A CLASSIC EXAMPLE
-Caveat Lector- Subject: 010.000 HATE SPEECH A CLASSIC EXAMPLE In this thread we have presented the case that words are hate speech DEPENDING WHO SAYS THEM. In response one states these words == I hate this fascist bullshit. I think that you and people like you should be rounded up and sent to places where you would be set straight. your families should be held until you get your ugly fascist heads straight. all you bastards should be deported or hanged. (below our writer exposes himself to be a homosexual) Just because you conservative right wing nuts are SEXUALLY REPRESSED and defective Keep your stupid opinions to yourself or get the f*** out of this country. == * Name calling * Kidnapped and "held" until we think like they do. * We are ugly * We are bastards who should be deported or hanged. * Shut up or get out of this country. Note, if anyone would say such a thing about homosexuals, that would be HATE SPEECH, but when homos use the very same speech about others ... why that is freedom of expression. You see in the hate speech game, the very same type of speech is freedom of expression when you are giving large contribution to grease ball politicians and that same speech is hate speech politicians use to shut you up when anyone angers their crack lickers. == One of the persons here hit the nail on the head when they posted a list of spin words that have been fabricated in the last 30 years. Words that have a specific meaning have now been perverted into take on abstract meanings. bashing, bigot, hate speech, inflammatory, democracy . In their attempts to use their mind control tactics on the village idiots the politician hired brain burners have made good use of the art of confusion and perversion of meanings. Before the 60s one group of people who engaged is a weird behavior was determined to be mentally unbalanced by all of medical science. After this group began to pour millions of dollars into the pockets of politicians, all of medical science discovered they were mistaken. Truth, right and justice in America is a variable which is determined by who is greasing the pockets of the politicians. I will comment no more on this topic, but note as our hero replies that all the type speech he is about to use about us (if it were used against his kind) is nothing less than what they call hate speech. quack, quack . DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] 010.000 HATE SPEECH
-Caveat Lector- On Tue, 8 Dec 1998, nurev wrote: I hate this fascist bullshit. I think that you and people like you should be rounded up and sent to places where you would be set straight. If you refuse your families should be held until you get your ugly fascist heads straight. I f none of this works, all you bastards should be deported or hanged. And what is NOT fascist regarding the above philosophy you espouse? What is it about the Constitution and the writ of habeas corpus you don't understand? We have a world on the edge of catastrophe here and there is no place for people like you holding back the progress necessary to save us all. Legislating Orwellian double-speak is NOT progress... Just because you conservative right wing nuts are sexually repressed and defective, doesn't mean the rest of us should suffer. Why do you feel a Constitutionalist is: a) conservative b) right wing c) sexually repressed d) 'defective' (whatever that means) FWIW, I also object to Liberals (capital "L") legislating speech in the name of 'political correctness' and 'hate speech', and I am: a) liberal (small "L") b) a supporter of gay rights c) a supporter of a woman's right to an abortion d) a supporter of the ORIGINAL intention of Affirmative Action (but not what Liberals -- capital "L" -- have turned it into) As for being repressed, sexually or otherwise, you need look no further than your own mirror, since you seem to be the biggest proponent of repression... Keep your stupid opinions to yourself or get the fuck out of this country. What is it about freedom of speech that you have a problem with? Since it is YOU who seems to desire a political and social system diametrically opposed to what the U.S. Constitution specifies, then it would seem that it is YOU who should be finding another country to emigrate to... I think the Taliban would welcome you to Afghanistan with open arms. June *---* revcoal AT connix DOT com *---* It is UNLAWFUL to send unsolicited commercial email to this email address per United States Code Title 47 Sec. 227. I assess a fee of $500.00 US currency for reading and deleting such unsolicited commercial email. Sending such email to this address denotes acceptance of these terms. My posting messages to Usenet neither grants consent to receive unsolicited commercial email nor is intended to solicit commercial email. ** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] 010.000 HATE SPEECH
-Caveat Lector- On Tue, 8 Dec 1998, nurev wrote: I don't work for the guvment and I hate semi-educated white morons like you. As opposed to a totally ignorant (presumably) white moron like you... You are a paranoid idiot and shouldn't be living amidst decent people trying to make the world a better place for all the different kinds of people who make up this country. Gee, this doesn't sound too fascist... Sounds like the 'hate speech' you seem so willing to have legislated into law... Someday we'll take the bunch of you and ship you off to Idaho where you can be with the rest of your bullet headed neo-nazi pig fuckin brothers. Then while you moroons argue about whether the Fuhrer had only one or maybe two balls, we will be free of you and able to build the socialist paradise this country is waiting for. I'd rather deal with 'neo-nazi pig fuckin brothers', than white Liberal males like you, who are the worst racists and worst sexists I've ever met... After the revolution, comrade, how many women and people of color will have positions of power in your regime? And don't give me your platitudes and promises, tell me the TRUTH, how many women and people of color are going to have active roles? June *---* revcoal AT connix DOT com *---* It is UNLAWFUL to send unsolicited commercial email to this email address per United States Code Title 47 Sec. 227. I assess a fee of $500.00 US currency for reading and deleting such unsolicited commercial email. Sending such email to this address denotes acceptance of these terms. My posting messages to Usenet neither grants consent to receive unsolicited commercial email nor is intended to solicit commercial email. ** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] 010.000 HATE SPEECH
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On Tue, 8 Dec 1998, Mike Moxley wrote:
and shouldn't be living amidst
decent people trying to make the world a better place for all the
different kinds of people who make up this country.
Translation: All these "different kinds of people" who are socialists and
make up this country. All others should not be living amongst us elitist
socialists.
Including women and people of color. The worst racists and worst sexists
are white males who consider themselves (or at least publicly state that
they are) Liberal...take a close look at their associations, and
especially who is in the role of organizing/leading...except for a
handful of public figureheads, the real power lies with those same white
male Liberals...who are very good at giving lip service to 'empowering'
women and people of color, but have a very poor track record in actually
following thru...
So if Joshua and his bunch DO take over, look for a lot of white males
running the show, with women making the coffee and people of color taking
care of their children and their landscaping...
Who is "we'll"??? Socialists?
Who is "bunch of you"? Non-socialists? Those whom don't agree with you?
The rest of the human race... ;-)
June
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Re: [CTRL] 010.000 HATE SPEECH
-Caveat Lector- On Tue, 8 Dec 1998, nurev wrote: Yeah I bet you like this. You're the fool who studies philosophy at feet of that loonytwat JanaButterfly. With the above statement, Joshua proves my point regarding the typical white male Liberal's attitude towards women... He is unable to objectively, rationally, and unemotionally discuss whatever philosophy 'JanaButterfly' espouses, but can only refer to her in gross, pornographic terms. You think that spouting Libertarian tripe makes you political? Getting key people into government is being political. Minorities and Jews know how to do it. And by the above statement, he makes my point regarding the typical white male Liberal's attitude towards 'minorities', as he displays their typical view of 'minorities' as separate from themselves, and not as part of 'the movement' these white male Liberals espouse... You guys are pathetic. You have much more than you deserve. And how do YOU presume to know how much anyone on this list has, let alone what they 'deserve'? What does ANYONE 'deserve'? As a woman, I'm SURE [sputter, cough] that you will agree that I represent a community which has been oppressed and victimized by you white males for centuries (if not millenia), and therefore I DESERVE more than you, who represents a class of humanity which has benefitted from the labor of women and people of color without giving anything back in return...therefore, I have the right to take away everything you have, since I DESERVE it more... [Now removing tongue from cheek] PS: More in next post. Spare us. June *---* revcoal AT connix DOT com *---* It is UNLAWFUL to send unsolicited commercial email to this email address per United States Code Title 47 Sec. 227. I assess a fee of $500.00 US currency for reading and deleting such unsolicited commercial email. Sending such email to this address denotes acceptance of these terms. My posting messages to Usenet neither grants consent to receive unsolicited commercial email nor is intended to solicit commercial email. ** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] 010.000 HATE SPEECH
-Caveat Lector- Ka- What is your basic gripe about "white liberals"? I'm curious. I'm a Native American (of European-Native American ancestry)...and I don't remember "white conservatives" or "white libertarians," for that matter, risking their lives on freedom rides to the south to end segregation in the southor running the risk of ending up in a Mississippi swamp (the fate of a young Jewish boy and a black boy), because they believed that Americans of all colors should have civil liberties. I don't remember masses of "white conservatives" making any effort to help out in the inner citiesto try to put an end to the hate and racism that seems to be endemic in our republic. Instead, whenever "white liberals" tried to use the power of government to put an end to social inequalities in the country, "white conservatives" opposed them every step of the way, using states rights arguments..now, the arguments have changed Judging from some of the postings on this list, the new smokescreen for racists, facists, hate-mongers and anti-semites among us is the Constitution!!! And, not surprisingly, the same individuals who find nothing wrong with the institution of slavery are mouthing Jefferson, Madison, et al. If that is "libertarianism," I think I'll pass.. I guess I must be one of the deluded masses... I have two daughters of my own... I want them to be strong feminists...to hear just as much about "the founding mothers" as they hear about "the fathers." The last thing I want for them is to marry some chauvinistic bozo.. who views a woman as his property. So, I'm one hundred percent for women being free of the kind of crap they had to put up with back in the pre-60s era I'm old enough to remember those days... Since I was raised in that period, I remember how women were treated... They weren't highly valued.. Whatever you want to say about "feminnazis" (well...ditto heads love these terms, don't they?)generally, women are better off now thanks to the efforts of "liberals" and "feminists." Of course, I won't defend all of the mistakes and blunders made along the way But I don't see "conservatives" caring much about anything, except maintaining the status quokeep the power in the hands of the same old white males who make up the good old boy networks...(the same jerks who love to go adventuring overseas...looking for loot and third world women to play with). Every progressive movement in this country has been fought tooth and nail by people who just want to hang on to their power and privileges... And when anyone has the courage to point out the inequities..the gross abuses... they are usually slapped down by various means. The treaties of my Native American ancestors were never respected...Their lands were seized by the very same people who crafted such marvelous documents as the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. So, a lot of us out here are not impressed with these rhetorical exercises on the glories of the Constitution. So, I am one hundred percent for "white liberals" and their effort to join the rest of the human race. I applaud the fact that, at least, they want to be fair-minded and decent. ... That's more than I can say for the opposition. Regards, Wm On Wed, 9 Dec 1998, KA wrote: -Caveat Lector- On Tue, 8 Dec 1998, nurev wrote: Yeah I bet you like this. You're the fool who studies philosophy at feet of that loonytwat JanaButterfly. With the above statement, Joshua proves my point regarding the typical white male Liberal's attitude towards women... He is unable to objectively, rationally, and unemotionally discuss whatever philosophy 'JanaButterfly' espouses, but can only refer to her in gross, pornographic terms. You think that spouting Libertarian tripe makes you political? Getting key people into government is being political. Minorities and Jews know how to do it. And by the above statement, he makes my point regarding the typical white male Liberal's attitude towards 'minorities', as he displays their typical view of 'minorities' as separate from themselves, and not as part of 'the movement' these white male Liberals espouse... You guys are pathetic. You have much more than you deserve. And how do YOU presume to know how much anyone on this list has, let alone what they 'deserve'? What does ANYONE 'deserve'? As a woman, I'm SURE [sputter, cough] that you will agree that I represent a community which has been oppressed and victimized by you white males for centuries (if not millenia), and therefore I DESERVE more than you, who represents a class of humanity which has benefitted from the labor of women and people of color without giving anything back in return...therefore, I have the right to take away everything you have, since I DESERVE it more... [Now removing tongue from cheek] PS: More in next post. Spare us. June *---*
Re: [CTRL] 010.000 HATE SPEECH
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On Wed, 9 Dec 1998, William Hugh Tunstall wrote:
What is your basic gripe about "white liberals"?
My 'gripe' as you put it is not with white liberals, but white
Liberals
The 'capital L' variety are big on mouthing platitudes, but are the worst
racists and sexists around...
They talk the talk, but don't walk the walk...
I'm curious. I'm a
Native American (of European-Native American ancestry)...and I don't
remember "white conservatives" or "white libertarians," for that matter,
risking their lives on freedom rides to the south to end segregation in
That is because you remember liberals of the 'small L' variety...
BTW, I consider myself a white liberal (small L)...
I guess I must be one of the deluded masses... I have two daughters of
my own... I want them to be strong feminists...
I consider myself a feminist too...but not a Feminist, and I hope you're
not raising your daughters to be the 'capital F' variety...
okay, what's the difference between the 'capital' and 'small letter'
variety? the 'capital' variety wear their designation like jewelry, an
adornment for show which is not an integral part of their being...
the 'small letter' variety just ARE...their philosophies are such an
integral part of their being, they just live it without thinking about it
(or feeling the need to crow about it and call attention to it)...
this applies to Conservatives/conservatives, too...
his property. So, I'm one hundred percent for women being free of the
kind of crap they had to put up with back in the pre-60s era
Then you don't want them to marry a white male Liberal, who are worst
sexists than any conservative or Conservative I've ever met...
On Tue, 8 Dec 1998, nurev wrote:
Yeah I bet you like this. You're the fool who studies philosophy at feet
of that loonytwat JanaButterfly.
With the above statement, Joshua proves my point regarding the typical
white male Liberal's attitude towards women...
I notice you don't take exception to Joshua, good Liberal that he is,
referring to women by a pornographic term for the female sex organ...
I guess you don't mind if your daughters, of Native American descent, are
called squaws then...even tho the term 'squaw' means female genitalia...
June
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Re: [CTRL] 010.000 HATE SPEECH
-Caveat Lector- Hey, June-- I admit Joshua2 has gone overboard but in the past two decades, it seems to me that it hasn't been "liberal white males" but conservatives--mostly Republicans, but conservatives of every stripe who have fought against ERA, against abortion and a woman's right to choose, and done everything in their power to keep women in the kitchen. The corporate wife and the gracious hostess is the conservative model. Even today most women in public roles are praised for beautification projects, interior decorating, hospital visits and involvement with children--even Princess Di fits this bill. Admittedly, most men have had trouble grasping what it is that "women want", but it seems to me that those who define themselves as "liberal" have made more of an effort to understand than most. Sounds like you have had a bad experience and have your own axe to grind. sno0wl DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] 010.000 HATE SPEECH
-Caveat Lector- At 08:27 PM 12/8/98 -0800, you wrote: Mike Moxley wrote: Hate Speech is a term defined by the extreme left. It is only recognized and used by the left. It means generally any speech that disagrees with the far-left national socialist agenda. Since this is the definition, it is impossible for the left to be guilty of hate speech. Therefore, only those that disagree with the left can be guilty of hate speech or hate crimes. How convenient. It is the same old "redefining of words, phrases, and meanings" common to leftist totalitarian regimes, to wit; Stalin and Hitler on the extreme and to socialism in general. It is used to stifle legitimate debate. The technique is used to deceive the simple-minded. It is the leftists way of circumventing the constitution in general, and in particular, the first amendment. Inventing new ways of trashing the language has become competitive sport amongst American socialists. For example, "spanking" becomes "child abuse", "homosexual" becomes "gay", "patriotism" becomes "terrorism", "American Indian" becomes "native American", "semi-automatic rifles" become "assault weapons", "...Nor prohibiting the free exercise of religion" becomes "separation of church and state", "unalienable rights" becomes "civil rights", "republic" becomes "democracy", "marriage" becomes "life partners", "socialist" becomes "liberal", "prisoners" becomes "inmates" or "residents", and on and on, ad nauseam. It is Orwellian in nature. Orwell called it "double-speak". The technique is spelled out in Karl Marx's Communist Manifesto. Hate speech and Hate crimes are ploys of the left to silence opposition, further their elitist agenda, and to grasp power by deceptive means. The so-called free press are experts at this techique, as are the democrats and The Liar. They now want, and are succeeding in, inserting this into the American legal system to silence and even imprison legitimate opposition. The concept of hate speech and hate crime have no place in the law in the American constitutional republic. The way to defeat this nonsense is strict adherence to the constitution. - - I hate this fascist bullshit. What is fascist about my post? The point of the post is that "hate speech and crimes" is indeed a fascist ploy. I was speaking out against this fascist, socialist technique, not supporting it. I despise Fascism and ALL forms of socialism. I think that you and people like you should be rounded up and sent to places where you would be set straight. If you refuse your families should be held until you get your ugly fascist heads straight. I f none of this works, all you bastards should be deported or hanged. Gee, now THAT sounds Fascist. Could definitely be construed as Hate Speech. *We now pause for a commercial break: "Have you had your Ritalin today?"* We have a world on the edge of catastrophe here and there is no place for people like you holding back the progress necessary to save us all. Just what is "people like me"? (Hint: Answer requires more Hate Speech") What "progress necessary to save us all" am I holding back? Socialism??? Just because you conservative right wing nuts are sexually repressed and defective, doesn't mean the rest of us should suffer. I have a great sex life and it sounds like you are suffering repression of your own accord. Keep your stupid opinions to yourself or get the fuck out of this country. Typical, Stifle debate, then call names. Or "You have a right to opinions but I don't. And if I don't agree with you then I must leave the country, accented with expletive deleted." Joshua2 Well, Joshua, I think you have proved all my contentions and points that I made in my "Hate speech post, couldn't have asked for a better illustration. Thanks for volunteering. PS: More in next post. Can't wait!!! :) Perhaps some substance this time. And less Hate speech please. --- T.J. on "Hate Speech": The opinions of men are not the object of civil government, nor under its jurisdiction. -Thomas Jefferson, 1779 (1743-1826) To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical. -Thomas Jefferson On public financing of campaigns (1743-1826) ** [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Patriot Resource Center: http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/6627/ **Live Free or Die!** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time
Re: [CTRL] 010.000 HATE SPEECH
-Caveat Lector- I don't work for the guvment I glad about that. and I hate semi-educated white morons like you. I am very educated and you have no idea of my heredity. You must be plagiarizing from the "Famous Socialist Quotes Handbook". You are a paranoid idiot Unintelligent name-calling. Surely you can do better. I asked for substance. and shouldn't be living amidst decent people trying to make the world a better place for all the different kinds of people who make up this country. Translation: All these "different kinds of people" who are socialists and make up this country. All others should not be living amongst us elitist socialists. Someday we'll take the bunch of you and ship you off to Idaho where you can be with the rest of your bullet headed neo-nazi pig fuckin brothers. Who is "we'll"??? Socialists? Who is "bunch of you"? Non-socialists? Those whom don't agree with you? Nazis are socialists, smart boy. Then while you moroons argue about whether the Fuhrer had only one or maybe two balls, we will be free of you and able to build the socialist paradise this country is waiting for. Gee, Hitler already tried the "socialist paradise" thing. It was a dismal failure as is are all forms of socialism. As this is a conspiracy list, it is my opinion that socialism, in it's varied forms, (ie, communism, social democracy, Fascism) is the biggest, ongoing, worldwide human conspiracy ever. Watch out for Black Helicopters dipshit. Flew one in the military for nine years, Sociopath. Anyway, this has been fun. Since I usually only respond to intelligent debate with matters of substance, I'm afraid I will have to cut this little love-fest short. I must congratulate you on your posting technique though, bet you make lots of friends. Joshua2 PS: More next post. No thanks. -- It is a FELONY to promote a New World Order, or to provide funding to international organizations promoting principles or doctrines of the one world order. -Public Law 471, chap 456, Title 1, Sec. 109, 1954 ** [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Patriot Resource Center: http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/6627/ **Live Free or Die!** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] 010.000 HATE SPEECH
-Caveat Lector- All NYC muggers take note. When you mug somebody if you say anything at all say, "I LOVE beating the crap out of people like you" not "I am mugging you and I hate you mo' fo' that you are." FWP. On Mon, 7 Dec 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- Subject: 010.000 HATE SPEECH The government is gonna crack down on hate speech? Just what is hate speech? Is it not that which is said (or written) that enrages or suggest punishment for people doing something disapproved of? When politicians come on tv and tell us "what the American people want", that enrages me, so is that hate speech? Every time someone makes any statement that others perceived as a threat, isn't that hate speech? "men who have sex with other men should be ..." In this example there are two factors. a) the hated act b) and the prescribed punishment for such act. The greatest publishers of hate speech in any nation is governments. "Law books" is their published hate speech. The only thing different is the label they put on their hated perverts. a) If you commit this act b) this is your prescribed punishment. When politicians make laws to protect foreign invaders, millions of Americans are threatened. When politicians force Americans to do things they object to, they are enraged. Hate speech, inflammatory speech ... or Boo Hoo, you are making me mad. If homosexuals try to force everyone else to give them special rights by their words, then why isn't that hate speech? The "hate speech" caper is just the government's trick to appoint out who can piss off who. Those who get to publish their one sided propaganda will be those who grease the hands of the politicians. . DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om *** British Columbia-the world's first direct electronic democracy under development http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/BCPolitics; http://users.uniserve.com/~culturex *** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
