Re: [CTRL] Anti-Gay Hate Messages -was- WARNING: U.N. Group in 'showd...

2003-08-14 Thread Jim Rarey
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The "missing link" is proof that one specie changed into another. There is 
no fossil record to show that. You are dissembling.

Many scientists are now questioning the theory of 
evolution because it has not been proved scientifically. It remains a theory 
with some facts (fossil records) yet to be found that bear it out.

JR

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-Caveat Lector- When did they (the 
so-called scientists) find the missing link?Long ago, and 
they keep finding more. The fossil record, though stillnot complete, is more 
than complete enough to demonstrate thevalidity of the theory to any who 
examine the evidence objectively.This, of course, leaves out all those too 
befuddled by primitive,superstitious delusions.More complete is the 
record of mitochondrial DNA.See:http://www.actionbioscience.org/evolution/ingman.htmlBelieve 
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Re: [CTRL] Anti-Gay Hate Messages -was- WARNING: U.N. Group in 'showd...

2003-08-14 Thread William Shannon
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In a message dated 8/10/2003 10:31:50 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

God inspired it, God wrote it through men, God has the sovereign authority to establish right morals for right living, Gods Word is inerrant and infallible. Thats enough for me.

Bet your bumper sticker says something "witty" like that too eh?
Go you www.truthbeknown.com and learn more than you've every imagined. You're being had buddy. But I suspect you're happy that way.

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Re: [CTRL] Anti-Gay Hate Messages -was- WARNING: U.N. Group in 'showd...

2003-08-14 Thread Jim Rarey
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When did they (the so-called scientists) find the missing link?

JR

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-Caveat Lector-Wow, I had NO idea you people were so 
uptight! I'd figure anybody smartenough to see through the fog and 
lies of the current political climatecould also see through the fog and lies 
of the anti-gay agenda propogatedby the *EXACT SAME 
FORCES*.Sheesh. Mark S. Bilk nailed it, though. His 
reasoned, thoughtful responsewas right on the money. Way to go, 
Mark. Now where are the rest of you?I'm hoping you're too busy out 
there standing up for human rights, fightingthe hate-mongering religious 
wackos sputtering monosyllabic diatribes abouthow we should all "repent" as 
the end is nigh or something... (Hey, theend may very well be nigh, 
but we'd be better off increasing fuelefficiency than hassling people about 
who they love...)And YOU, "iNFoWaRZ" -- if that IS your real name, heh 
heh (are you really ateenage hacker?) -- to you I'd ask: Where is the 
morality indiscrimination, bigotry, and hate? As you seem to have 
cornered the marketon the latter, I'd like to see a bit of the 
former...Lastly, re: Jim Rarey's post:Of course belief in 
God is a matter of faith, not scientific evidence,just like belief in 
evolution.You're kidding, right? If not, perhaps someday you 
should speak to anactual scientist. Or better, just show the 0.6% of 
qualifying DNA thatproves you're a human and not a chimp.To all of 
you who refuse to stand up for human dignity, I'd like to make adeal: 
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Re: [CTRL] Anti-Gay Hate Messages -was- WARNING: U.N. Group in 'showd...

2003-08-14 Thread William Shannon
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In a message dated 8/10/2003 10:50:49 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I can vouch for invalidity of that website. The author is a new age pagan female anti-Christ who's works are the epitome of distortion and lies.
She has twisted historical facts and has absolutely no grasp of reality.
Even her works on politics, science, and her own "religion" are total bullshit.
This is one twisted woman.
The truth is far from her.
Truthbeknown.com?
Not on this website.
Avoid it like the plague.

Acharya is a personal friend of mine...and you obviously are clueless. 
A true-believe aren't you?
Moron.

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Re: [CTRL] Anti-Gay Hate Messages -was- WARNING: U.N. Group in 'showd...

2003-08-14 Thread John A. O'Neal
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At 01:41 PM 08/11/2003 -0400, you wrote:
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The missing link is proof that one specie changed into
another. There is no fossil record to show that. You are
dissembling.

Many scientists are now questioning the theory of evolution
because it has not been proved scientifically. It remains a theory with
some facts (fossil records) yet to be found that bear it out.

JR
Two words that are thrown about, all too liberally these days, are
: homophobe and racist . Disagree
with or say anything about a homosexual or their lifestyle, you're called
a homophobe. Disagree with or say anything about a black ,
brown or yellow person or their actions or inactions and you're called a
racist (IF, you're Caucasian, that is...we're even told there
can be NO colored racists). Sad  Both words presume
a exaggerated fear and/or hatred of
perverts or non-white persons. There are, without a doubt, many out there
who possess those traits. Speaking for myself, however, I
fear nothing that walks, crawls, flies or
slithers, breathes oxygen, eats, defecates or dies. Also, I don't
hate anyone...regardless of what they are, do or
believe. I may *choose* to dislike, not condone or disassociate myself
with them, their actions or their beliefs, but, that is my right ( It's
God-given, too). So, now that the air is cleared and
the cards are face up, this is one observation..
It seems that the following list members:
RevCOAL
NessieSFBG
William Shannon
Eric Hoffman
Steve Wingate
Mark S. Bilk
did not take, slept in class or flunked Anatomy 101 and should take
a remedial course, as soon as possible. In the meantime, I think there is
a site, somewhere on the Net, having to do with, How Things Work Or
Are Supposed to Work, if not perverted by deviation from the
normal. Here are some Keywords they might use in the Search
Engine:

Sexual Intercourse
Human Reproduction
Penis
testicles
prostate
Vagina
clitoris
Uterus
Womb
fallopian tubes
mouth
tongue
teeth
glottis
throat
egg
sperm
fertilization
intestines
colon
rectum
anus
feces
defecation  
They may learn something ! :)
JAO



- Original Message - 
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 When did they (the so-called scientists) find the missing link?


Long ago, and they keep finding more. The fossil record, though still
not complete, is more than complete enough to demonstrate the
validity of the theory to any who examine the evidence objectively.
This, of course, leaves out all those too befuddled by primitive,
superstitious delusions.
More complete is the record of mitochondrial DNA.
See:
http://www.actionbioscience.org/evolution/ingman.html

Believe is what stupid people do instead of find out the truth for themselves.
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Re: [CTRL] Anti-Gay Hate Messages -was- WARNING: U.N. Group in 'showd...

2003-08-14 Thread Eric Hoffsten
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Wow, I had NO idea you people were so uptight!  I'd figure anybody smart
enough to see through the fog and lies of the current political climate
could also see through the fog and lies of the anti-gay agenda propogated
by the *EXACT SAME FORCES*.

Sheesh.  Mark S. Bilk nailed it, though.  His reasoned, thoughtful response
was right on the money.  Way to go, Mark.  Now where are the rest of you?
I'm hoping you're too busy out there standing up for human rights, fighting
the hate-mongering religious wackos sputtering monosyllabic diatribes about
how we should all repent as the end is nigh or something...  (Hey, the
end may very well be nigh, but we'd be better off increasing fuel
efficiency than hassling people about who they love...)

And YOU, iNFoWaRZ -- if that IS your real name, heh heh (are you really a
teenage hacker?) -- to you I'd ask:  Where is the morality in
discrimination, bigotry, and hate?  As you seem to have cornered the market
on the latter, I'd like to see a bit of the former...

Lastly, re: Jim Rarey's post:

Of course belief in God is a matter of faith, not scientific evidence,
just like belief in evolution.

You're kidding, right?  If not, perhaps someday you should speak to an
actual scientist.  Or better, just show the 0.6% of qualifying DNA that
proves you're a human and not a chimp.

To all of you who refuse to stand up for human dignity, I'd like to make a
deal:  I'll call off the recruitment party if you stop imposing on me the
supposed words of your invisible superheroes who live in outer space.
Fair enough?

--eh

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Re: [CTRL] Anti-Gay Hate Messages -was- WARNING: U.N. Group in 'showd...

2003-08-14 Thread Nessie SFBG
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There is no fossil record to show that.
Oh yes there is.

See:

http://www.handprint.com/LS/ANC/homofs.html

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/




You are dissembling.
You are deluded.

Your irrational, a priori assumptions blind you to the evidence.
Convicts are routinely executed on the basis of less evidence than we
have for evolution. The Bible, the Koran, the Rig Veda, etc. are all
hearsay. The fossils are empirical data. If you rely on hearsay, when
the empirical data contradicts, your logic is flawed.
For more about logic, click here:

http://www.kcmetro.cc.mo.us/longview/ctac/corenotes.htm

http://www.datanation.com/fallacies/

http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/

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Re: [CTRL] Anti-Gay Hate Messages -was- WARNING: U.N. Group in 'showd...

2003-08-14 Thread Zuukie
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The site you refered us to says:
Human evolution is a puzzle made up of thousands of fossil pieces, and
the Chart of Human Evolution (below) shows the major pieces of that
puzzle arranged in a likely solution.

OK.. The site is honest and you are supposing that likely means
concrete proof.  OK.  How many honest sites do we have to look at to to
show your bias?

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There is no fossil record to show that.

Oh yes there is.

See:

http://www.handprint.com/LS/ANC/homofs.html

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/




You are dissembling.

You are deluded.

Your irrational, a priori assumptions blind you to the evidence.
Convicts are routinely executed on the basis of less evidence than we
have for evolution. The Bible, the Koran, the Rig Veda, etc. are all
hearsay. The fossils are empirical data. If you rely on hearsay, when
the empirical data contradicts, your logic is flawed.

For more about logic, click here:

http://www.kcmetro.cc.mo.us/longview/ctac/corenotes.htm

http://www.datanation.com/fallacies/

http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/

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Re: [CTRL] Anti-Gay Hate Messages -was- WARNING: U.N. Group in 'showd...

2003-08-14 Thread iNFoWaRZ
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At 11:36 PM 8/10/03 , you wrote:

God
inspired it, God wrote it through men, God has the sovereign authority to
establish “right” morals for “right” living, God’s Word is
inerrant and infallible. That’s enough for
me.

Bet your bumper sticker says
something witty like that too eh?
Go you www.truthbeknown.com and learn
more than you've every imagined. You're being had buddy. But I suspect
you're happy that way.

Bill. 
I can vouch for invalidity of that website. The author is a new age
pagan female anti-Christ who's works are the epitome of distortion and
lies.
She has twisted historical facts and has absolutely no grasp of
reality.
Even her works on politics, science, and her own religion are
total bullshit.
This is one twisted woman.
The truth is far from her.
Truthbeknown.com?
Not on this website.
Avoid it like the plague.



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Re: [CTRL] Anti-Gay Hate Messages -was- WARNING: U.N. Group in 'showd...

2003-08-11 Thread Jim Rarey
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I'll pray for you too, Bill. The judgment may come sooner than we 
expect.

JR

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God inspired it, God wrote it through 
  men, God has the sovereign authority to establish right morals for right 
  living, Gods Word is inerrant and infallible. Thats enough for 
me.Bet your bumper sticker says something "witty" like that 
too eh?Go you www.truthbeknown.com and 
learn more than you've every imagined. You're being had buddy. But I suspect 
you're happy that way.Bill. 
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2003-08-11 Thread Nessie SFBG
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 When did they (the so-called scientists) find the missing link?



Long ago, and they keep finding more. The fossil record, though still
not complete, is more than complete enough to demonstrate the
validity of the theory to any who examine the evidence objectively.
This, of course, leaves out all those too befuddled by primitive,
superstitious delusions.
More complete is the record of mitochondrial DNA.

See:

http://www.actionbioscience.org/evolution/ingman.html



Believe is what stupid people do instead of find out the truth for themselves.

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