Re: [CTRL] Christians and Conspiracy Theory
-Caveat Lector- c, I don't see how anyone could be offended by this article. It is no secret that there are many nutcases out there that believe that there is a conspiracy about everything out there, no matter how ludicrous. A man kills 10 people and immediately he is a product of mind-control. If every single crime committed on the face of the earth can be attributed to conspiracy theory, how can it ever be taken seriously? Some make it a joke by irrational suspicions. Many of these, wearing their tin-foil hats, are uneducated. That was the point of labelling people in that article. Not that bus-drivers and clerks can't see what's going on, but that these types of uneducated people tend to unfairly blame natural or terrible events on a conspiracy. "C" writes:jessie- i think you are missing the point kris and aliesha were making about the TONE of the article you posted the link for. it is very condescending toward conspiracy theory- it seems to indicate that people interested in conspiracy theory are not qualified to be interested in it and they should leave these big issues to more qualified people. the problem with that is- that the people in positions of power- are exactly the people who are suspected of being part of the conspiracy. some simple things you have to understand- you cannot always see the effect someone's beliefs have on them- just because you do not see kris's beliefs worn on his sleeve- doesn't mean to say he isn't motivated by them. From CBNnow web-based E-mail, part of the growing CBNnow web presence. CBNnow, your source for news, information, and inspiration in the new millenium. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Christians and Conspiracy Theory
-Caveat Lector- the article was rather low brow and condescending- written by someone who does not know much about conspiracy research and who is sceptical of it AND seems to have a belief system to protect in the writing of it. the mind control comment is spurious- people look at PATTERNS of mass killings (and other incidental indicators) and look at the evidence surrounding them and then suggest that there may be an ALTERNATIVE reason for a madman's actions other than what the media are happy for you to believe. that is all. - Original Message - From: "Vera Harper" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 31 December 2000 20:51 Subject: Re: [CTRL] Christians and Conspiracy Theory -Caveat Lector- c, I don't see how anyone could be offended by this article. It is no secret that there are many nutcases out there that believe that there is a conspiracy about everything out there, no matter how ludicrous. A man kills 10 people and immediately he is a product of mind-control. If every single crime committed on the face of the earth can be attributed to conspiracy theory, how can it ever be taken seriously? Some make it a joke by irrational suspicions. Many of these, wearing their tin-foil hats, are uneducated. That was the point of labelling people in that article. Not that bus-drivers and clerks can't see what's going on, but that these types of uneducated people tend to unfairly blame natural or terrible events on a conspiracy. "C" writes:jessie- i think you are missing the point kris and aliesha were making about the TONE of the article you posted the link for. it is very condescending toward conspiracy theory- it seems to indicate that people interested in conspiracy theory are not qualified to be interested in it and they should leave these big issues to more qualified people. the problem with that is- that the people in positions of power- are exactly the people who are suspected of being part of the conspiracy. some simple things you have to understand- you cannot always see the effect someone's beliefs have on them- just because you do not see kris's beliefs worn on his sleeve- doesn't mean to say he isn't motivated by them. From CBNnow web-based E-mail, part of the growing CBNnow web presence. CBNnow, your source for news, information, and inspiration in the new millenium. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Christians and Conspiracy Theory
-Caveat Lector- jessie- i think you are missing the point kris and aliesha were making about the TONE of the article you posted the link for. it is very condescending toward conspiracy theory- it seems to indicate that people interested in conspiracy theory are not qualified to be interested in it and they should leave these big issues to more qualified people. the problem with that is- that the people in positions of power- are exactly the people who are suspected of being part of the conspiracy. some simple things you have to understand- you cannot always see the effect someone's beliefs have on them- just because you do not see kris's beliefs worn on his sleeve- doesn't mean to say he isn't motivated by them. take the gaya theory as an example. to someone with your beliefs gaya theory seems like there is belief in nothing- because there is no real creed to follow- it is a religion without RELIGIOUS ORGANISATION. some say-" religion gets between a man and his god". for me- the miracle of the cycle and balance of life is miracle enough - without the need of a cognitive force making the miracles happen. so- in your terms- i do not believe in anything... you said you are non-demominational- but you still seem to have a rigid belief system where everything is decided- everything is predictable and understandable thru your belief system. but perhapos your belief system is too rigid to recognise that there are equally valid belief systems that reject your particular god outright. believe everything- trust nothing hail!eris! - Original Message - From: "Vera Harper" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 30 December 2000 04:01 Subject: Re: [CTRL] Christians and Conspiracy Theory -Caveat Lector- Kris, Are you trying to tell me that we are not allowed to post anything unless we agree with it 100%? I thought this story had some good points, especially the whole anti-semite thing. I also thought it was informative in helping people see that some conspiracy theories are started by those who will be helped by them, such as Hitler. Surely you couldn't disagree with every point made. Living on conspiracy theory is not the same as believing it exists. The point being, if that is all you live for, what kind of life is that? Is that such a horrible message? I assume you have a life beyond this list, as we all do(except maybe Colleen/Aleisha). -Jessie Kris wrote: I guess you will believe in anything. Just have some preacher man say it, dress it up with a few quotes and its down the road, taking your sorry ass with it. what an easy way to control you. Naw, conspiracy theory aren't true, the bible tells me so. What a crock. Go peddle your bs, elsewhere, been there done that. Seen enough of hypoccrites. Om K From CBNnow web-based E-mail, part of the growing CBNnow web presence. CBNnow, your source for news, information, and inspiration in the new millenium. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not
Re: [CTRL] Christians and Conspiracy Theory
-Caveat Lector- On Tue, 2 Jan 2001 09:53:53 -0800 Nessie [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -Caveat Lector- Mythology: other people's religion Dangerous Mythology: Other people's beliefs that conflict with yours. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Christians and Conspiracy Theory
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i been a lilly fan for some time, seems relevant to the thread- and to
xtians who seem to have a stranglehold on what was really going on back in
the garden.
From "Hebrew Myths" by Robert Graves and Raphael Patai:
Some say the God created man and woman in His own image on the Sixth Day,
giving them charge over the world, but that Eve did not yet exist. Now, God
had set Adam to name every beast, bird and other living thing. When they
passed before him in pairs, male and female, Adam --being already like a
twenty-year-old man-- felt jealous of their loves, and though he tried
coupling with each female creature in turn, found no satisfaction in the
act. He therefore cried: "Every creature but I has a proper mate!" and
prayed God would remedy this injustice. [1]
God then formed Lilith, the first woman, just as He had formed Adam, except
that he used filth and sediment instead of pure dust. From Adam's union with
this demoness, and with another like her named Naamah, Tubal Cain's sister,
sprang Asmodeus and innumerable demons that still plague mankind. Many
generations later, Lilith and Naamah came to Solomon's judgement seat,
disguised as harlots of Jerusalem. [2]
Adam and Lilith never found peace together, for when he wished to lie with
her, she took offence at the recumbent position he demanded. "Why must I lie
beneath you?" she asked. "I also was made from dust, and am therefore your
equal." Because Adam tried to compel her obedience by force, Lilith, in a
rage, uttered the magic name of God, rose into the air and left him.
Adam complained to God: "I have been deserted by my helpmeet." God at once
sent the angels Senoy, Sansenoy and Semangelof to fetch Lilith back. They
found her beside the Red Sea, a region abounding in lascivious demons, to
whom she bore 'lilim' at the rate of more than one hundred a day. "Return to
Adam without delay," the angels said, "or we will drown you!" Lilith asked:
"How can I return to Adam and live like an honest housewife, after my stay
beside the Red Sea?" "It will be death to refuse!" they answered. "How can I
die," Lilith asked again, "when God has ordered me to take charge of all
newborn children: boys up to the eighth day of life, that of circumcision;
girls up to the twentieth day. None the less, if ever I see your three names
or likenesses displayed in an amulet above a newborn child, I promise to
spare it." To this they agreed; but God punished Lilith by making one
hundred of her demon children perish daily; [3] and if she could not destroy
a human infant, because of the angelic amulet, she would spitefully turn
against her own. [4]
Some say that Lilith ruled as queen in Zmargad, and again in Sheba; and was
the demoness who destroyed Job's sons. [5] Yet she escaped the curse of
death which overtook Adam, since they had parted long before the Fall.
Lilith and Naamah not only strangle infants but also seduce dreaming men,
and one of whom, sleeping alone, may become their victim. [6]
Notes:
[1] Divergences between the Creation myths of Genesis I and II, which allow
Lilith to be presumed as Adam's first mate, result from a careless weaving
together of an early Judean and a late priestly tradition. The older version
contains the rib incident. Lilith typifies the Anath-worshipping Canaanite
women, who were permitted pre-nuptial promiscuity. Time after time the
prophets denounced Israelite women for following Canaanite practices; at
first, apparently, with the priests' approval -- since their habit of
dedicating to God the fees thus earned is expressly forbidden in Deuteronomy
XXIII:18. Lilith's flight to the Red Sea recalls the ancient Hebrew view
that water attracts demons. "Tortured and rebellious demons" also found safe
harbourage in Egypt. Thus Asmodeus, who had strangled Sarah's first six
husbands, fled "to the uttermost parts of Egypt" (Tobit VIII:3), when Tobias
burned the heart and liver of a fish on their wedding night.
[2] Lilith's bargain with the angels has its ritual counterpart in an
apotropaic {1} rite once performed in many Jewish communities. To protect
the newborn child against Lilith --and especially a male, until he could be
permanently safeguarded by circumcision-- a ring was drawn with natron, or
charcoal, on the wall of the birthroom, and inside it were written the
words: "Adam and Eve. Out, Lilith!" Also the names Senoy, Sansenoy and
Semangelof (meanings uncertain) were inscribed on the door. If Lilith
nevertheless succeeded in approaching the child and fondling him, he would
laugh in his sleep. To avert danger, it was held wise to strike the sleeping
child's lips with one finger -- whereupon Lilith would vanish.
[3] 'Lilith' is usually derived from the Babylonian-Assyrian word 'lilitu,'
'a female demon, or wind-spirit' -- one of a triad mentioned in Babylonian
spells. But she appears earlier as 'Lillake' on a 2000 BC Sumerian tablet
from Ur containing the tale of _Gilgamesh and the Willow Tree_. There she is
a demoness
Re: [CTRL] Christians and Conspiracy Theory
-Caveat Lector- On Tue, 2 Jan 2001 09:25:34 - "c." [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- i been a lilly fan for some time, seems relevant to the thread- and to xtians who seem to have a stranglehold on what was really going on back in the garden. From "Hebrew Myths" by Robert Graves and Raphael Patai: Some say the God created man and woman in His own image on the Sixth Day, giving them charge over the world, but that Eve did not yet exist. Now, God had set Adam to name every beast, bird and other living thing. When they passed before him in pairs, male and female, Adam --being already like a twenty-year-old man-- felt jealous of their loves, and though he tried coupling with each female creature in turn, found no satisfaction in the act. He therefore cried: "Every creature but I has a proper mate!" and prayed God would remedy this injustice. [1] God wanted Adam to choose one of the animals as his mate. God then formed Lilith, the first woman, just as He had formed Adam, except that he used filth and sediment instead of pure dust. From Adam's union with this demoness, and with another like her named Naamah, Tubal Cain's sister, sprang Asmodeus and innumerable demons that still plague mankind. Many generations later, Lilith and Naamah came to Solomon's judgement seat, disguised as harlots of Jerusalem. [2] Strangely all this (and the following) seems to get left out of Sunday School classes, leading to the millions of Christians who have wondered 'If Adam and Eve had 2 children, Cain and Abel, and Cain killed Abel, where did everyone else come from?'. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Christians and Conspiracy Theory
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: "Johannes Schmidt III" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 January 2001 14:58 Subject: Re: [CTRL] Christians and Conspiracy Theory -Caveat Lector- On Tue, 2 Jan 2001 09:25:34 - "c." [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- Adam --being already like a twenty-year-old man-- felt jealous of their loves, and though he tried coupling with each female creature in turn, found no satisfaction in the act. He therefore cried: "Every creature but I has a proper mate!" and prayed God would remedy this injustice. [1] God wanted Adam to choose one of the animals as his mate. hats off to adam for getting into the spirit of it and at least trying to couple with other species before moaning about it God then formed Lilith, the first woman, just as He had formed Adam, except that he used filth and sediment instead of pure dust. From Adam's union with this demoness, and with another like her named Naamah, Tubal Cain's sister, sprang Asmodeus and innumerable demons that still plague mankind. Many generations later, Lilith and Naamah came to Solomon's judgement seat, disguised as harlots of Jerusalem. [2] Strangely all this (and the following) seems to get left out of Sunday School classes, leading to the millions of Christians who have wondered 'If Adam and Eve had 2 children, Cain and Abel, and Cain killed Abel, where did everyone else come from?'. and an emancipated woman telling adam where to stick his missionary position has never suited our spiritual teachers for some reason... A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Christians and Conspiracy Theory
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Re: [CTRL] Christians and Conspiracy Theory
Title: RE: [CTRL] Christians and Conspiracy Theory Strangely all this (and the following) seems to get left out of Sunday Sc= hool classes, leading to the millions of Christians who have wondered 'If= Adam and Eve had 2 children, Cain and Abel, and Cain killed Abel, where = did everyone else come from?'. Johannes Where does it say that Cain and Abel were their ONLY children? So, they had 2 sons named Cain and Abel... Thanks, Jamie
Re: [CTRL] Christians and Conspiracy Theory
-Caveat Lector- Kris, Are you trying to tell me that we are not allowed to post anything unless we agree with it 100%? I thought this story had some good points, especially the whole anti-semite thing. I also thought it was informative in helping people see that some conspiracy theories are started by those who will be helped by them, such as Hitler. Surely you couldn't disagree with every point made. Living on conspiracy theory is not the same as believing it exists. The point being, if that is all you live for, what kind of life is that? Is that such a horrible message? I assume you have a life beyond this list, as we all do(except maybe Colleen/Aleisha). -Jessie Kris wrote: I guess you will believe in anything. Just have some preacher man say it, dress it up with a few quotes and its down the road, taking your sorry ass with it. what an easy way to control you. Naw, conspiracy theory aren't true, the bible tells me so. What a crock. Go peddle your bs, elsewhere, been there done that. Seen enough of hypoccrites. Om K From CBNnow web-based E-mail, part of the growing CBNnow web presence. CBNnow, your source for news, information, and inspiration in the new millenium. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- Howdy Dupe, I guess you will believe in anything. Just have some preacher man say it, dress it up with a few quotes and its down the road, taking your sorry ass with it. what an easy way to control you. Naw, conspiracy theory aren't true, the bible tells me so. What a crock. Go peddle your bs, elsewhere, been there done that. Seen enough of hypoccrites. Om K In a message dated 12/31/00 10:23:09 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -Caveat Lector- http://www.acts17-11.com/conspire.html From CBNnow web-based E-mail, part of the growing CBNnow web presence. CBNnow, your source for news, information, and inspiration in the new millenium. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Christians and Conspiracy Theory
-Caveat Lector- Well, I certainly agree. Even accepting the Christian story one must assume that the Devil is the ruler of the current age, and that he is the "father of lies" and a master of deception. Therefore, how is it that one can say, from a Christian perspective, that there are no conspiracies?? It seems to me that the "old dragon" Satan would have them burgeoning everywhere? No? Of course I am not inclined to believe that Satan is doing anything, but humans surely are, and it is in their nature to be deceptive, secretive, and conspiring. On Mon, 01 January 2001, Kris Millegan wrote: -Caveat Lector- Howdy Dupe, I guess you will believe in anything. Just have some preacher man say it, dress it up with a few quotes and its down the road, taking your sorry ass with it. what an easy way to control you. Naw, conspiracy theory aren't true, the bible tells me so. What a crock. Go peddle your bs, elsewhere, been there done that. Seen enough of hypoccrites. Om K In a message dated 12/31/00 10:23:09 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -Caveat Lector- http://www.acts17-11.com/conspire.html From CBNnow web-based E-mail, part of the growing CBNnow web presence. CBNnow, your source for news, information, and inspiration in the new millenium. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om "Welcome to the desert of the real." Morpheus, in The Matrix "My God it's full of stars!" Dave Bowman, in 2001: A Space Odyssey Find the best deals on the web at AltaVista Shopping! http://www.shopping.altavista.com A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Christians and Conspiracy Theory
"Howdy Dupe" What an uncivilized mutt. Another net-buster. Begone.
[CTRL] Christians and Conspiracy Theory
-Caveat Lector- http://www.acts17-11.com/conspire.html From CBNnow web-based E-mail, part of the growing CBNnow web presence. CBNnow, your source for news, information, and inspiration in the new millenium. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
