Re: [CTRL] Fw: Re: [CTRL] Clinton Says Goodbye to U.S. Troops
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 01/08/2001 10:31:45 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How about we leave Bill alone in a room for half an hour with 5 Marines and no restrictions on anybody? I wonder why in the face of Cold War history, these three think they do not owe their freedom to having been protected by a strong military from those that would rule the world otherwise. Maybe you don't need five. Let's get the three who killed that homosexual they baited. I've been with the military for more years than I like to admit. Oddly enough, they are men and women like all others. There was child sexual abuse, cruelty to animals, rape and murder, theft, etc., reports that crossed my desk all the time. I think I see the military as clearly as anyone does. There are no halos around any of them. It is a particular line of work. Are there heros too? Oh yes there are. You haven't lived until you've heard the calm good bye of a pilot riding his plane into the ground to be sure to miss a school and a housing area. Clinton, however, is not alone in his sentiments. Lot's of first termers leave the life with the exact same words--I hate the military. They do not mean they hate each individual who serves. They mean they hate the military system. It's a disquietly common phrase to hear among those who are actually active military personnel. Prudy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fw: Re: [CTRL] Clinton Says Goodbye to U.S. Troops
-Caveat Lector- LOL!! Don't leave out his letter thanking for help with his draft dodging stating that he "loathed" the military! And Hillary and Chelsea call them pigs and Chelsea does not ride in the same car with anybody military. How about we leave Bill alone in a room for half an hour with 5 Marines and no restrictions on anybody? I wonder why in the face of Cold War history, these three think they do not owe their freedom to having been protected by a strong military from those that would rule the world otherwise. Amelia - Original Message - From: "John Cone" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2001 5:30 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Clinton Says Goodbye to U.S. Troops -Caveat Lector- --- Bill Richer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Clinton Says Goodbye to U.S. Troops By DEB RIECHMANN, Associated Press Writer ARLINGTON, Va. (AP) - A saxophonist played a soulful rendition of "America the Beautiful" as President Clinton bid farewell Friday to members of the armed forces. _ Nakano replies: Speaking as a Vietnam Vet: THIS IS PURE UNADULTERATED AND NAUSEATING CRAP! Clinton's attitude toward the U.S. Military is well known. He dodged the draft. He lied to avoid serving in the Armed Forces, and he has lied ever since about doing it. He invited "Hanoi Jane" Fonda to spend the night in the Lincoln bedroom in the White House. He never invited a Medal of Honor winner to sleep over. Clinton has done his best to geld the American Military...and he has been fairly successful. His recent trip to Vietnam, thirty years late, was a direct insult to the 58,000 U.S. Military personnel who died in that war. He was "giving the finger" to every American Veteran who served in Vietnam. That saxaphone player should have been playing "Your Cheating Heart"! Nakano A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fw: Re: [CTRL] Clinton Says Goodbye to U.S. Troops
-Caveat Lector- What was that joke about Clinton leaving Air Force One, and he had two pigs with him, one under each arm? He told a soldier who was part of reception - "Look, I got this one for Hilliary and that one for Chelsie". And the soldier said "good trade sir, you got the best of the deal of that one"..no insult intended to the pigs So little clone Chelsie is being raised in her mother's image..they called the secret service pigs as well, the ones who are there to take a bullet for them if need be. So at least we got the pigs (my apoligies to the pigs with 4 legs) out of the Oval Office and White House.one pig left in New York though, but she will be with her own kind - now let us see how she repays those who supported her - and wonder if anyone is going to check out those polling places? Street people and prostitutues and gay pride and arabs and jews and blacks - how neatly they divided and conquered? She kissed both cheeks of jews and arabs.but like Judas sheep, the most hated of all sheep - to whom does she owe her allegiance not that it makes any difference, for she does not look too happy thee days. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Clinton Says Goodbye to U.S. Troops
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/6/01 6:24:00 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Name this country: 709,000 regular (active duty) service personnel; 293,000 reserve troops; Well, don't feel too bad if you are unable to identify this global superpower because this country no longer exists. It has vanished. These are the American military forces that have disappeared since the 1992 election of Bill Clinton and Al Gore. Sleep well, America. [snip] http://afr.com/world/uspolicy.html exerpt Under President George H. Bush, the current Republican candidate's father, defense spending was cut by 25 percent, with these cuts taking effect during the Clinton administration. Last year, however, Clinton approved a US$112 billion increase in defence spending over the next five years. -- http://www.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/01/24/pentagon.budget/ exerpt Last year, the administration proposal was $267 billion. Congress added almost $5 billion to that to bring the total to $272.4 billion for fiscal year 2000, for a total increase of $9.8 billion, or 3.75 percent. This did not include supplemental appropriations to cover the cost of operations in Bosnia and Kosovo. This year's proposed $291 billion is an increase of 6.83 percent. The last time the Pentagon received so large an increase in its budget was in 1983, when the defense budget went up 7.4 percent to $239 billion. In 1999 inflation-adjusted dollars that would be equal to $383 billion. -- Samantha A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Clinton Says Goodbye to U.S. Troops
-Caveat Lector- Well done Samantha, but there's more Behalf Of Samantha L. http://www.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/01/24/pentagon.budget/ exerpt Last year, the administration proposal was $267 billion. Congress added almost $5 billion to that to bring the total to $272.4 billion for fiscal year 2000, for a total increase of $9.8 billion, or 3.75 percent. This did not include supplemental appropriations to cover the cost of operations in Bosnia and Kosovo. This year's proposed $291 billion is an increase of 6.83 percent. The last time the Pentagon received so large an increase in its budget was in 1983, when the defense budget went up 7.4 percent to $239 billion. In 1999 inflation-adjusted dollars that would be equal to $383 billion. Catch-up Funding might be the reason for such a large increase. I also find it hard to believe Clinton was strapped for eight years with Bush's Defense Budget. Read on http://www.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/01/24/pentagon.budget/ excerpt (same article continued) In this election year, the proposal could draw charges of playing politics. Republican presidential candidates have criticized the Clinton administration for underfunding the military and causing what they called a resulting decline in readiness. One of Republican presidential hopeful John McCain's campaign themes is restoring military spending. And George W. Bush, who advocates "clear-eyed realism" in foreign policy, says he will set national defense as the "first focus" of a Bush administration should he be elected. Both hopefuls have come down hard on Clinton's dealings with the military budgets during his administration. "There is almost no relationship between our budget priorities and a strategic vision," Bush says. "The last seven years have been wasted in inertia and idle talk." McCain backs increased defense spending, claiming that "not since Pearl Harbor has our investment in national defense been so low as a percentage of our gross national product." A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Clinton Says Goodbye to U.S. Troops
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! Clinton Says Goodbye to U.S. Troops Updated 8:13 PM ET January 5, 2001 By DEB RIECHMANN, Associated Press Writer ARLINGTON, Va. (AP) - A saxophonist played a soulful rendition of "America the Beautiful" as President Clinton bid farewell Friday to members of the armed forces. "We live in peace, in no small measure, because your courage and strength makes peace a wiser choice than war," Clinton said. Eight years ago, Clinton began his presidency with the controversial "don't ask-don't tell" policy on gays in the military. Late Friday afternoon, he said goodbye to the troops, noting that his administration had reversed a decade and a half decline in defense spending and had obtained the largest single increase in military compensation in a generation. The strength of the U.S. military is just as important in peace as it is in war, Clinton said in a speech in a darkened auditorium at Fort Myer where spotlights shone brightly on ceremonial guards from the Army, Marine Corps, Navy, Air Force, Coast Guard and the Old Guard Fife and Drum Corps. "No one can ever write a full account of the wars that were never fought, the loses that were never suffered, the tears that were never shed because the men and women of the United States military risked their lives for peace," Clinton said at the armed forces full honor review ceremony for the outgoing president. "None of us should every forget that." Clinton was joined by Defense Secretary William Cohen, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Henry Shelton and 850 members of the military who filled the bleachers of Conmy Hall. The auditorium was hushed in silence as the president, with a stone-faced expression, reviewed the troops that stood stiffly at attention. The president said the work of the troops has helped build a more united Europe and foster peace on the Korean peninsula and a climate of reconciliation across the last dividing line of the Cold War. He said troops in the Persian Gulf have helped keep Iraq from regaining its capability to threaten the world or its neighbors with weapons of mass destruction. "Thanks to you, arm-in-arm with an expanded NATO, ethnic cleansing and slaughter in the former Yugoslavia, in Bosnia and Kosovo has ended," Clinton said. "Refugees have returned to their homes. Freedom has a chance to flower." After he spoke, each unit paraded before the reviewing stand as the U.S. Marine Band played the theme songs for each of the five armed services. Afterward, the band played "Stars and Stripes Forever" and a relaxed rendition of "America the Beautiful." Clinton smiled and gently rocked his head as Staff Sgt. Gregory Ridlington of Spokane, Wash., played a solo on his saxophone. *COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] Want to be on our lists? Write at [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a menu of our lists! A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Clinton Says Goodbye to U.S. Troops
-Caveat Lector- --- Bill Richer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Clinton Says Goodbye to U.S. Troops By DEB RIECHMANN, Associated Press Writer ARLINGTON, Va. (AP) - A saxophonist played a soulful rendition of "America the Beautiful" as President Clinton bid farewell Friday to members of the armed forces. _ Nakano replies: Speaking as a Vietnam Vet: THIS IS PURE UNADULTERATED AND NAUSEATING CRAP! Clinton's attitude toward the U.S. Military is well known. He dodged the draft. He lied to avoid serving in the Armed Forces, and he has lied ever since about doing it. He invited "Hanoi Jane" Fonda to spend the night in the Lincoln bedroom in the White House. He never invited a Medal of Honor winner to sleep over. Clinton has done his best to geld the American Military...and he has been fairly successful. His recent trip to Vietnam, thirty years late, was a direct insult to the 58,000 U.S. Military personnel who died in that war. He was "giving the finger" to every American Veteran who served in Vietnam. That saxaphone player should have been playing "Your Cheating Heart"! Nakano __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Clinton Says Goodbye to U.S. Troops
-Caveat Lector- Late Friday afternoon, he said goodbye to the troops, noting that his administration had reversed a decade and a half decline in defense spending [snip] Name this country: 709,000 regular (active duty) service personnel; 293,000 reserve troops; Eight standing Army divisions; 20 Air Force and Navy air wings with 2,000 combat aircraft; 232 strategic bombers; 13 strategic ballistic missile submarines with 3,114 nuclear warheads on 232 missiles; 500 ICBMs with 1,950 warheads; Four aircraft carriers; 121 surface combat ships and submarines; plus all the support bases, shipyards and logistical assets needed to sustain such a naval force. Is this country Russia? . . . No Red China ? . . . No Great Britain ? . . . Wrong Again, USA? . . . Hardly Give up?? Well, don't feel too bad if you are unable to identify this global superpower because this country no longer exists. It has vanished. These are the American military forces that have disappeared since the 1992 election of Bill Clinton and Al Gore. Sleep well, America. [snip] A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
