Re: [CTRL] Diamonds Are For Whatever
-Caveat Lector- From: Euphorian [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anyway, while the Britlanders have priapic Bond, we have our own teams forging ahead through the blizzards of information and intended actions ... Napoleon Solo and Ilya Kuryakin (and you thunk the American / Russian connexion was just pipe(line) dream?) as well as Maxwell Smart and Agent 99. How can you have forgotten the dynamic British agents of dapper Steed and sexy Peel, aka The Avengers? Or Patrick McGoohan's enigmatic spy-who-wants-to-leave-it-all-behind, The Prisoner? The Belgians will probably channel Poireau That's Poirot, and he wasn't a spy but a private detective practicing in London... A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Diamonds Are For Whatever
-Caveat Lector- From http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A27281- 2001Nov1?language=printer }}}Begin Al Qaeda Cash Tied to Diamond Trade Sale of Gems From Sierra Leone Rebels Raised Millions, Sources Say By Douglas Farah Washington Post Foreign Service Friday, November 2, 2001; Page A01 FREETOWN, Sierra Leone, Nov. 1 -- The terrorist network led by Osama bin Laden has reaped millions of dollars in the past three years from the illicit sale of diamonds mined by rebels in Sierra Leone, according to U.S. and European intelligence officials and two sources with direct knowledge of events. Diamond dealers working directly with men named by the FBI as key operatives in bin Laden's al Qaeda network bought gems from the rebels at below-market prices and sold them for large profits in Europe. Investigators in the United States and Europe are still trying to determine how much money al Qaeda derived from its dealings with the Revolutionary United Front (RUF), but they estimated the amount to be in the millions. Since July, the sources said, the diamond dealers have changed their tactics, buying far more diamonds than usual and paying premium prices for them. Investigators said that is a strong indication that al Qaeda, perhaps a nticipating its accounts would be frozen after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks in the United States, sought to protect its money by sinking it into gemstones, a commodity that can be easily hidden, holds its value and rema ins almost untraceable. When prices go up and supply goes up, it means someone is seeking to launder or hide cash, and we believe that is the case here, a U.S. official said. Diamonds don't set off alarms at airports, they can't be sniffed by dogs, they are easy to hide, and are highly convertible to cash. It makes perfect sense. U.S. and European intelligence officials, overwhelmed after Sept. 11 and with very few agents in West Africa, said they realized only recently how important the diamond flow was to fund al Qaeda and other terrorist organi zations. I now believe that to cut off al Qaeda funds and laundering activities you have to cut off the diamond pipeline, said a European investigator. We are talking about millions and maybe tens of millions of dollars in prof its and laundering. The Diamond Dealers The diamonds are mined by RUF rebels, who became infamous during Sierra Leone's civil war for hacking off the arms and legs of civilians and abducting thousands of children and forcing them to fight as combatants. The cou ntry's alluvial diamond fields, some of the richest in the world, were the principal prize in the civil war, and they have been under RUF control for the past four years. Small packets of diamonds, often wrapped in rags or plastic sheets, are taken by senior RUF commanders across the porous Liberian border to Monrovia, according to sources. There, at a safe house protected by the Liberian government, the diamonds are exchanged for briefcases of cash brought by diamond dealers who fly several times a month from Belgium to Monrovia, where they are escorted by special state security through customs and immigr ation control. The diamond dealers are selected by Ibrahim Bah, a Libyan-trained former Senegalese rebel and the RUF's principal diamond dealer, the sources said. The buyers' identities are known only to Bah and a few others. Bah's contacts and sympathies were forged on the battlefield, according to intelligence reports and sources who know him well. After fighting with the Casamance separatist movement in Senegal in the 1970s, Bah trained in Libya under the protection of Col. Moammar Gaddafi, the Libyan leader. Like bin Laden, he spent several years in the early 1980s fighting alongside Muslim guerrillas against Soviet forces in Afghanistan. Bah then joined the Iranian-backed Hezbollah militia to fight Israeli forces in southern Lebanon before returning to Libya at the end of the 1980s. In Libya, Bah met and trained several men who would go on to lead rebelli ons in West Africa, including Charles Taylor of Liberia and Foday Sankoh of Sierra Leone, the RUF's founder. Bah himself later fought in both Liberia and Sierra Leone. According to intelligence sources and two people who have worked with him, Bah now acts as a conduit between senior RUF commanders and the buyers from both al Qaeda and Hezbollah, a Shiite Muslim organization linked to Le banese activists who have kidnapped numerous Americans, hijacked airplanes and carried out car bomb attacks on U.S. installations in Beirut. Bah, who lives in the capital of Burkina Faso, Ouagadougou, declined through intermediaries to be interviewed for this article. In the past, he has refused to talk to U.N. investigators probing the region's weapons-for-di amonds trade. Senior RUF officials, who are overseeing the disarmament of the rebel movement as part of a U.N.-brokered peace agreement, said this week in response to a query from The Washington Post that they
Re: [CTRL] Diamonds Are For Whatever
-Caveat Lector- Hey Israel has billions and billions of dollars in diamonds, yet they do not mine diamonds. The KGB paid off Hanssen in diamonds, this traitor who was in counter-intelligence for the FBI - this traitor whose job it was to protect and serve? Yet he keeps his hoime and pension for his has kids? Lots of kids orphaned at the World Trade Cener, but as they say and Joe Lieberman said - Hey I am okay, we are okay... Diamonds Like Jihud is Forever? Don't you think the Israelis have been paying off a few of their spies with diamonds instead of cash? All that Saudi gold at the bottom of the World Trade Center and Larry Silverman who only leased air space, and served as a manager and rent collector - he is receiving billions in insurance money Heard through the grapevine people in New York are beginning to wonder..and Giuliani wants that job as head of Port Authority.billions and billions of dollars to rebuild the World Trade Center. Where did Israel get all the diamonds? This story looks like ADL plant they hope to grow roots? The UN have you noted - treasure ships, they want all and any gold from lost treasuresgold is being brought up from centuries ago - and these are UN treasures. But I say this if these traitors attempt to steal the Saudi gold, American will take another step into the darkness. Say this if those Israeli planes ever attack Iraq - goodbye Israel for it is God's Plan anyway that 5 countries will blot this fly speck off the face of the earth. Let them fight their own wars - lets give the Palestinians a fair fight. Saba Understand Los Angeles has been simply charged by Larry Flynt and I wonder out the new Porn Column is doing in Los Angeles Times..who got the payolla. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Diamonds Are For Whatever
-Caveat Lector- On 2 Nov 01, at 14:01, Saba wrote: Diamonds Like Jihud is Forever? This is getting to be more and more like a James Bond movie, not a new (type of) war, just a new way of looking at the old movies. In the movies and the Fleming novels, we never did ever get a good look at what the governments were doing at the same time Bond was screwing his way through how many enemy agentesses. Now, this is what it looks like. Reassuring to know though that there are governments out there with agents and agentesses who have licenses to kill and have some number or another associated with their names, synonumerals, as it were, as you would never mistake 007 for being anyone other than Bond. Or XY for Rambo. I always wondered if there were loosely aligned people running loose in the world with other loosely hinged people chasing them down for the benefit of some higher good. Now, when y'all (Northern Yankee talk for everyone), watch them 007 flicks, just put this in the perspective of being the other side of the coin. Dr Stangelove is another up-to-date piece of nostalgic movie-making. And, note that while the Britlanders have the hypertestosteroned Bond (hormone control, in the way of mind control, in the way of drug control: You don't get no more shots, James, until you off the mofo*s). Anyway, while the Britlanders have priapic Bond, we have our own teams forging ahead through the blizzards of information and intended actions ... Napoleon Solo and Ilya Kuryakin (and you thunk the American / Russian connexion was just pipe(line) dream?) as well as Maxwell Smart and Agent 99. The French have Clouseau and I'm sure the Italians and the Germans have their wheels on the axles' axis. The Belgians will probably channel Poireau and there will be those who will do the same for Zorro and the Lone Ranger Tonto. Life deferring to art. It's just the picture reflecting the observer now and watching the events that brought the particular images to prominence. AER A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Diamonds Are For Whatever
-Caveat Lector- its hard to decipher, but I think there was a question there that has a real historical answer. traditionally in Europe, Jews were not allowed to own land, There were forbidden from most businesses. It was not uncommon for them to have to flee their homes, in part because they didn't own them, by law, and thus had no recourse. They also had an international trading net, crossing borders, with a common language, Yiddish ( much as Swahili functions in parts of Africa) SO diamonds are a natural fit into this lifestyle. (as a side note Christians were forbidden to lend money for profit, so the only people permitted to bank were Jews - who had few other opportunities allowed them anyway - so they became bankers, and were then persecuted for being in a profession that was all but forced upon them) -- -- -- -- -- - -- - -- -- - - - - -- --- -- - - - - -- - - - -- -- - -- - Never wear your best trousers when you go out to fight for freedom and truth. Henrik Ibsen NEURONAUTIC INSTITUTE on-line: http://home.earthlink.net/~thew From: Saba [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 14:01:41 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Diamonds Are For Whatever -Caveat Lector- Hey Israel has billions and billions of dollars in diamonds, yet they do not mine diamonds. The KGB paid off Hanssen in diamonds, this traitor who was in counter-intelligence for the FBI - this traitor whose job it was to protect and serve? Yet he keeps his hoime and pension for his has kids? Lots of kids orphaned at the World Trade Cener, but as they say and Joe Lieberman said - Hey I am okay, we are okay... Diamonds Like Jihud is Forever? Don't you think the Israelis have been paying off a few of their spies with diamonds instead of cash? All that Saudi gold at the bottom of the World Trade Center and Larry Silverman who only leased air space, and served as a manager and rent collector - he is receiving billions in insurance money Heard through the grapevine people in New York are beginning to wonder..and Giuliani wants that job as head of Port Authority.billions and billions of dollars to rebuild the World Trade Center. Where did Israel get all the diamonds? This story looks like ADL plant they hope to grow roots? The UN have you noted - treasure ships, they want all and any gold from lost treasuresgold is being brought up from centuries ago - and these are UN treasures. But I say this if these traitors attempt to steal the Saudi gold, American will take another step into the darkness. Say this if those Israeli planes ever attack Iraq - goodbye Israel for it is God's Plan anyway that 5 countries will blot this fly speck off the face of the earth. Let them fight their own wars - lets give the Palestinians a fair fight. Saba Understand Los Angeles has been simply charged by Larry Flynt and I wonder out the new Porn Column is doing in Los Angeles Times..who got the payolla. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance?not soap-boxing?please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'?with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds?is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust
