[CTRL] EU vs Israel
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EU gets tough on Israeli exports
Preferential rates to be scrapped
Ian Black and Andrew Osborn in Brussels
Tuesday November 13, 2001
The Guardian
The European Union is poised to punish Israel by ending low tariffs
for goods produced in occupied Palestinian territories, the Guardian
has learned.
In the first sign that EU impatience with the Jewish state is being
translated into practical policy, preferential tariffs that have
applied for more than 25 years are to be stopped within months,
diplomats said.
Palestinians and Arab states will be jubilant at the decision,
expected to be announced at talks between Israel and the EU in
Brussels next week.
The long-running row about so-called rules of origin is over
Israeli-labelled goods exported from settlements in the West Bank and
Gaza Strip and enjoying preferential access to EU markets. Several
member states have accused Israel of cheating and in some cases
national customs authorities have acted to recoup losses.
The EU is Israel's biggest trade partner, accounting for nearly a third of Israeli
exports. Behind a mass of technical detail lies the question of the legality of
Israeli rule over Arab lands occupied in the 1967 war. Th
is is a highly sensitive question and it is naive to pretend it is purely technical,
one senior official said.
Israel's ambassador to the EU, Harry Knei-Tal, warned the move would be
counter-productive, damaging the already fragile Palestinian economy and undermining
the EU's role as a credible mediator in the peace process.
The timing is bad. This is an attempt to take a technical economic problem and use it
to prejudge a political solution. It will reopen the question of whether Europe is
sincere, he said. I don't know what the reaction
will be when EU foreign ministers come to Jerusalem and ask to be treated as honest
brokers.
The Guardian has also learned that in a separate move the EU is considering cutting
hundreds of millions of pounds of development aid to developing Muslim and non-Muslim
nations whose governments mistreat women.
The policy, which has yet to be formally agreed, is certain to outrage the governments
concerned who will view Brussels's tactics as cultural imperialism.
In a position paper the EU commissioner makes specific reference to Muslim and
non-Muslim states in Asia, Africa and the Middle East. These include Afghanistan,
Iran, Sierra Leone, India and China.
This is one of the few bits of leverage available to us, said one official. We are
not seeking to punish countries but to encourage them to change their ways.
The decision to end preferential treatment for Israeli goods from the occupied
territories is likely to be confirmed next Monday. It reflects anger in Brussels with
the government of the prime minister, Ariel Sharon, whos
e policy of targeted assassinations of Palestinian fighters and prolonged closures
of the West Bank and Gaza are blamed for making a bad situation worse.
The European commission has been pressing for the change for years but met strong
opposition from governments such as Germany and the Netherlands, which were unwilling
to be seen to be applying pressure on Israel.
Over the past few months the EU has repeatedly attacked Israel's
disproportionate use of force and called for an end to illegal
settlements.
Economic damage to Israel is likely be more symbolic than real, to
the tune of about £140m worth of exports, including cosmetics,
plastics and soda concentrate, from two settlements, Barkan and
Mishor Adumin, which employ 20,000 Palestinians.
The EU is trying hard to boost its diplomatic profile in the Middle
East and its foreign policy chief, Javier Solana, has become an
influential figure.
Later this week he accompanies Louis Michel, prime minister of
Belgium and holder of the EU presidency, on another bout of so-called
relay diplomacy, designed to maintain a permanent European presence
in the region.
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Re: [CTRL] EU vs Israel
-Caveat Lector- I know I asked this before but I cant remember the answer can anyone think of any country, other than Israel, that has gained land by winning a war,(whether they started it or not) that they had to give back? -- -- -- -- -- - -- - -- -- - - - - -- --- -- - - - - -- - - - -- -- - -- - Experience should teach us to be most on our guard to protect liberty when the Government's purposes are beneficent. Men born to freedom are naturally alert to repel invasion of their liberty by evil-minded rulers. The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding. Justice Louis D. Brandeis NEURONAUTIC INSTITUTE on-line: http://home.earthlink.net/~thew From: Euphorian [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 02:43:18 -0600 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] EU vs Israel -Caveat Lector- From http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,2763,592504,00.html }}}Begin EU gets tough on Israeli exports Preferential rates to be scrapped Ian Black and Andrew Osborn in Brussels Tuesday November 13, 2001 The Guardian The European Union is poised to punish Israel by ending low tariffs for goods produced in occupied Palestinian territories, the Guardian has learned. In the first sign that EU impatience with the Jewish state is being translated into practical policy, preferential tariffs that have applied for more than 25 years are to be stopped within months, diplomats said. Palestinians and Arab states will be jubilant at the decision, expected to be announced at talks between Israel and the EU in Brussels next week. The long-running row about so-called rules of origin is over Israeli-labelled goods exported from settlements in the West Bank and Gaza Strip and enjoying preferential access to EU markets. Several member states have accused Israel of cheating and in some cases national customs authorities have acted to recoup losses. The EU is Israel's biggest trade partner, accounting for nearly a third of Israeli exports. Behind a mass of technical detail lies the question of the legality of Israeli rule over Arab lands occupied in the 1967 war. Th is is a highly sensitive question and it is naive to pretend it is purely technical, one senior official said. Israel's ambassador to the EU, Harry Knei-Tal, warned the move would be counter-productive, damaging the already fragile Palestinian economy and undermining the EU's role as a credible mediator in the peace process. The timing is bad. This is an attempt to take a technical economic problem and use it to prejudge a political solution. It will reopen the question of whether Europe is sincere, he said. I don't know what the reaction will be when EU foreign ministers come to Jerusalem and ask to be treated as honest brokers. The Guardian has also learned that in a separate move the EU is considering cutting hundreds of millions of pounds of development aid to developing Muslim and non-Muslim nations whose governments mistreat women. The policy, which has yet to be formally agreed, is certain to outrage the governments concerned who will view Brussels's tactics as cultural imperialism. In a position paper the EU commissioner makes specific reference to Muslim and non-Muslim states in Asia, Africa and the Middle East. These include Afghanistan, Iran, Sierra Leone, India and China. This is one of the few bits of leverage available to us, said one official. We are not seeking to punish countries but to encourage them to change their ways. The decision to end preferential treatment for Israeli goods from the occupied territories is likely to be confirmed next Monday. It reflects anger in Brussels with the government of the prime minister, Ariel Sharon, whos e policy of targeted assassinations of Palestinian fighters and prolonged closures of the West Bank and Gaza are blamed for making a bad situation worse. The European commission has been pressing for the change for years but met strong opposition from governments such as Germany and the Netherlands, which were unwilling to be seen to be applying pressure on Israel. Over the past few months the EU has repeatedly attacked Israel's disproportionate use of force and called for an end to illegal settlements. Economic damage to Israel is likely be more symbolic than real, to the tune of about £140m worth of exports, including cosmetics, plastics and soda concentrate, from two settlements, Barkan and Mishor Adumin, which employ 20,000 Palestinians. The EU is trying hard to boost its diplomatic profile in the Middle East and its foreign policy chief, Javier Solana, has become an influential figure. Later this week he accompanies Louis Michel, prime minister of Belgium and holder of the EU presidency, on another bout of so-called relay diplomacy, designed to maintain
Re: [CTRL] EU vs Israel
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 11/13/01 8:47:20 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: can anyone think of any country, other than Israel, that has gained land by winning a war,(whether they started it or not) that they had to give back? Germany. In the Franco-German war the Germans took Alsace-Lorraine from France. At the end of WWI they were forced to return these areas back to France. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] EU vs Israel
-Caveat Lector- maybe I wasn't clear I didn't mean give it back after they lost a war I meant just give it back -- - --- - --- --- Complete liberty of contradicting our opinion is the very condition which justifies us in assuming its truth. John Stuart Mill NEURONAUTIC INSTITUTE on-line: http://home.earthlink.net/~thew From: Bill Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 13:07:45 EST To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] EU vs Israel -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 11/13/01 8:47:20 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: can anyone think of any country, other than Israel, that has gained land by winning a war,(whether they started it or not) that they had to give back? Germany. In the Franco-German war the Germans took Alsace-Lorraine from France. At the end of WWI they were forced to return these areas back to France. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance?not soap-boxing?please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'?with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds?is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] EU vs Israel
-Caveat Lector- On 13 Nov 01, at 11:58, thew wrote: can anyone think of any country, other than Israel, that has gained land by winning a war,(whether they started it or not) that they had to give back? The (Once) Great Britain and France and the United States and ... and... the Soviet Union ... and Spain ... and the Dutch ... and ... (O)GB used to be an empire, see, and those folks got themselves spread all around the globe. Then these upstarts (who later became Americans) kicked their Nancy patooies out. Then they eventually lost India/Pakistan and the Middle East, from where you question stems in that the land the once controlled eventually became the countries (albeit artificially demarked) we know as Syria (Fr), Lebanon, Jordan, Egypt, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, and all the rest. And, in amongst all of this, Israel sprang into being. The unfortunate thing is all of this is following the Britlandic paradigm of empire, one that we can all see didn't work in the long run. AER A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
