Re: [CTRL] Election 2000: SNAFU or NWO Plan?(part IId)
-Caveat Lector- On Tue, 12 Dec 2000 15:10:58 -0500 Aleisha Saba [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -Caveat Lector- Freedom from or Freedom of Religion.when those Pilgrims landed on the Rock - little did they know what would happen when the Gentry Landed. Chuckle. So true. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Election 2000: SNAFU or NWO Plan?(part IId)
-Caveat Lector- On Tue, 12 Dec 2000 12:47:38 -0600 outlawlady [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -Caveat Lector- Dear Jason: My father was learning english phonetically when I was born so it is (Jay)(son). I've had to spell it for people ever since. When was the last time you read the Constitution? Or the First Amendment? When I wrote the message that you replied to. It says: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances." My reasoning is as follows: Establishing religion in this country is a conspiracy by default from the start. Our money reads "In God We Trust", our Pledge of Allegiance says (in part) "One nation, under god", we take an oath on the bible, get sworn to all public offices including president on a bible, and every legislature opens it's sessions with a prayer (almost always a christian prayer. The one nonchristian prayer offered at the opening of a legislative session (that I know of) was here in Oregon a couple years ago. A Wiccan was schedualed to give the opening invocation. The howl from the christians was deafening, and some of the more narrowminded legislators walked out in protest.). We are continually told by our elected officials that this is a christian country, founded on christian principals, and use the bible as a reference book when debating. That is a defacto establishment of the christian religion in America. The government also prohibits the free exercise of other religions, namely many Native American religions, and any others that do not conform to christian concepts of propriety, including 'Black Magic'. (all churches in America were Christian at that time). But not all religions. In the second place, these are not MY words. The "In Their Own Words" series is about the QUOTES of people involved in this New World Order (New Age) takeover. In this instance, I was quoting a United States Supreme Court JUSTICE! Considering the present SNAFU, quoting a Supreme Court Justice may not be acceptable proof of anything. However, it is interesting that you equate New World Order with New Age beliefs. Is there something we are missing here. Are all NWO advocates also praticianers of New Age thinking? What exactly do you think makes up New Age thinking/Beliefs? Hope this clears things up for you. Ditto Take care Godspeed! I always take care. As for taking Godspeed, I quit doing that in college. However I did see Godspell, Superstar, and The life of Jesus while smoking herbs. Does that count? The OUTLAWLADY Jayson (irreverant and impudent as always) A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Election 2000: SNAFU or NWO Plan?(part IId)
-Caveat Lector- Dear Jason: When was the last time you read the Constitution? Or the First Amendment? It says: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances." Now, would you please explain to me and our other readers what part of that amendment contains the words "Separation of Church and State." In the first place, those words came from a letter written by Thomas Jefferson to a Baptist church, who were concerned about a particular Christian DENOMINATION being named our national DENOMINATION (all churches in America were Christian at that time). In the second place, these are not MY words. The "In Their Own Words" series is about the QUOTES of people involved in this New World Order (New Age) takeover. In this instance, I was quoting a United States Supreme Court JUSTICE! Hope this clears things up for you. Take care Godspeed! The OUTLAWLADY "Jayson R. Jones" wrote: -Caveat Lector- On Mon, 4 Dec 2000 18:14:19 -0600 outlawlady [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -Caveat Lector- "Much has been written in recent years concerning Thomas Jefferson's reference in 1802 to 'a wall of separation between church and State'...Jefferson's figure of speech has received so much attention that ONE WOULD ALMOST THINK AT TIMES THAT IT IS TO BE FOUND SOMEWHERE IN OUR CONSTITUTION." - "BAER v. KOLMORGEN" [103] (Cotinued at The Joshua Files) If you mean the U.S. Constitution, try reading the first ammendment. Jayson R. Jones A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om -- Michael The Outlawlady The Joshua Files http://members.spree.com/education/2302410/ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Election 2000: SNAFU or NWO Plan?(part IId)
-Caveat Lector- Church is supposed to be Beyond the Pale.now, years ago I had a very good book which questioned why the Mormon Church was chartered by US Government? This man, believed the Mormon Church would someday be like the Church of England and be the Church of America - One Religion Fits all. Now I have seen recruiters for the Mormon Church - had two of them come to my door for two weeks over 20 years ago - yet, the spent most of their time in local small family motel, playing cards and drinking beer with prooprietor - it is said they sold Joan of Arc statutes with their speech. Freedom from or Freedom of Religion.when those Pilgrims landed on the Rock - little did they know what would happen when the Gentry Landed. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Election 2000: SNAFU or NWO Plan?(part IId)
-Caveat Lector- On Mon, 4 Dec 2000 18:14:19 -0600 outlawlady [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -Caveat Lector- "Much has been written in recent years concerning Thomas Jefferson's reference in 1802 to 'a wall of separation between church and State'...Jefferson's figure of speech has received so much attention that ONE WOULD ALMOST THINK AT TIMES THAT IT IS TO BE FOUND SOMEWHERE IN OUR CONSTITUTION." - "BAER v. KOLMORGEN" [103] (Cotinued at The Joshua Files) If you mean the U.S. Constitution, try reading the first ammendment. Jayson R. Jones A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Election 2000: SNAFU or NWO Plan?(part IId)
-Caveat Lector- TIMELINE OF TREASON APPENDIX B IN THEIR OWN WORDS [PART d] [Continued from PART c] "The invisible money power (the International Banksters) is working to CONTROL AND ENSLAVE MANKIND. It financed communism, fascism, Marxism, zionism and socialism. All of these are directed to making the United States a member of World Government..." - "AMERICAN MERCURY" MAGAZINE [*NOTE: Actually, the "invisible government" not only financed the formation and takeover by these evil entities, they actually CREATED them in the first place! - OL] 1958 At the IVth InterAmerican Conference of Freemasonry in Santiago, Chili, Masons spell out their feelings on Communism: "Marxism and Freemasonry both serve the common ideal of earthly happiness...A Freemason can accept COMPLETELY the philosophical conceptions of Marxism. No conflict is possible between the philosophical conceptions of Marxism and Freemasonry." - DE PONCINS [102] *** "Much has been written in recent years concerning Thomas Jefferson's reference in 1802 to 'a wall of separation between church and State'...Jefferson's figure of speech has received so much attention that ONE WOULD ALMOST THINK AT TIMES THAT IT IS TO BE FOUND SOMEWHERE IN OUR CONSTITUTION." - "BAER v. KOLMORGEN" [103] (Cotinued at The Joshua Files) The Joshua Files http://members.spree.com/education/2302410/ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om