Re: [CTRL] Election 2000: SNAFU or NWO Plan?(part IId)

2000-12-13 Thread Jayson R. Jones

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Freedom from or Freedom of Religion.when those Pilgrims landed on
the Rock - little did they know what would happen when the Gentry
Landed.

Chuckle.  So true.

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Re: [CTRL] Election 2000: SNAFU or NWO Plan?(part IId)

2000-12-13 Thread Jayson R. Jones

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On Tue, 12 Dec 2000 12:47:38 -0600 outlawlady [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Dear Jason:

My father was learning english phonetically  when I was born so it is
(Jay)(son).  I've had to spell it for people ever since.

When was the last time you read the Constitution? Or the First
Amendment?

When I wrote the message that you replied to.

It says: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of
religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the
freedom of
speech, or of the press; or right of the people peaceably to assemble,
and to
petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

My reasoning is as follows:  Establishing religion in this country is a
conspiracy by default from the start.  Our money reads "In God We Trust",
our Pledge of Allegiance says (in part) "One nation, under god",   we
take an oath on the bible, get sworn to all public offices including
president on a bible, and every legislature opens it's sessions with a
prayer (almost always a christian prayer.  The one nonchristian prayer
offered at the opening of a legislative session (that I know of) was here
in Oregon a couple years ago.  A Wiccan was schedualed to give the
opening invocation.  The howl from the christians was deafening, and some
of the more narrowminded legislators walked out in protest.).  We are
continually told by our elected officials that this is a christian
country, founded on christian principals, and use the bible as a
reference book when debating.  That is a defacto establishment of the
christian  religion in America.  The government also prohibits the free
exercise of other religions, namely many Native American religions, and
any others that do not conform to christian concepts of propriety,
including 'Black Magic'.

 (all churches in America were Christian at that time).

But not all religions.

 In the second place, these are not MY words. The "In Their Own
Words" series is about the QUOTES of people involved in this
New World Order (New Age) takeover. In this instance,
 I was quoting a United States Supreme Court JUSTICE!

Considering the present SNAFU, quoting a Supreme Court Justice may not be
acceptable proof of anything.   However, it is interesting that you
equate New World Order with New Age beliefs.  Is there something we are
missing here.  Are all NWO advocates also praticianers of New Age
thinking?  What exactly do you think makes up New Age thinking/Beliefs?

Hope this clears things up for you.

Ditto

 Take care  Godspeed!

I always take care.  As for taking Godspeed, I quit doing that in
college.  However I did see Godspell, Superstar, and The life of Jesus
while smoking herbs.  Does that count?

 The OUTLAWLADY

Jayson (irreverant and impudent as always)

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Re: [CTRL] Election 2000: SNAFU or NWO Plan?(part IId)

2000-12-12 Thread outlawlady

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Dear Jason:
When was the last time you read the Constitution? Or the First Amendment? It
says: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or
prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of
the press; or right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the
Government for a redress of grievances."
Now, would you please explain to me and our other readers what part of that
amendment contains the words "Separation of Church and State." In the first
place, those words came from a letter written by Thomas Jefferson to a Baptist
church, who were concerned about a particular Christian DENOMINATION being named
our national DENOMINATION (all churches in America were Christian at that time).
In the second place, these are not MY words. The "In Their Own Words" series
is about the QUOTES of people involved in this New World Order (New Age)
takeover. In this instance, I was quoting a United States Supreme Court JUSTICE!
Hope this clears things up for you.  Take care 
Godspeed!
   The OUTLAWLADY

"Jayson R. Jones" wrote:

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 On Mon, 4 Dec 2000 18:14:19 -0600 outlawlady [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 "Much has been written in recent years concerning Thomas
 Jefferson's reference in 1802 to 'a wall of separation between church
 and
 State'...Jefferson's figure of speech has received so much attention
 that ONE WOULD ALMOST THINK AT TIMES THAT IT IS TO BE FOUND SOMEWHERE
 IN OUR CONSTITUTION." - "BAER v. KOLMORGEN" [103]
 (Cotinued at The Joshua Files)

 If you mean the U.S. Constitution, try reading the first ammendment.
 Jayson R. Jones

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Re: [CTRL] Election 2000: SNAFU or NWO Plan?(part IId)

2000-12-12 Thread Aleisha Saba

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Church is supposed to be Beyond the Pale.now, years ago I had a very
good book which questioned why the Mormon Church was chartered by US
Government?

This man, believed the Mormon Church would someday be like the Church of
England and be the Church of America - One Religion Fits all.

Now I have seen recruiters for the Mormon Church - had two of them come
to my door for two weeks over 20 years ago - yet, the spent most of
their time in local small family motel, playing cards and drinking beer
with prooprietor - it is said they sold Joan of Arc statutes with their
speech.

Freedom from or Freedom of Religion.when those Pilgrims landed on
the Rock - little did they know what would happen when the Gentry
Landed.

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Re: [CTRL] Election 2000: SNAFU or NWO Plan?(part IId)

2000-12-05 Thread Jayson R. Jones

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On Mon, 4 Dec 2000 18:14:19 -0600 outlawlady [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
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"Much has been written in recent years concerning Thomas
Jefferson's reference in 1802 to 'a wall of separation between church
and
State'...Jefferson's figure of speech has received so much attention
that ONE WOULD ALMOST THINK AT TIMES THAT IT IS TO BE FOUND SOMEWHERE
IN OUR CONSTITUTION." - "BAER v. KOLMORGEN" [103]
(Cotinued at The Joshua Files)

If you mean the U.S. Constitution, try reading the first ammendment.
Jayson R. Jones

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[CTRL] Election 2000: SNAFU or NWO Plan?(part IId)

2000-12-04 Thread outlawlady

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   TIMELINE OF TREASON
APPENDIX B

IN THEIR
OWN WORDS
[PART d]

[Continued from PART c]

 "The invisible money power (the International Banksters) is working to
CONTROL AND
ENSLAVE MANKIND. It financed communism, fascism, Marxism, zionism and
socialism.
All of these are directed to making the United States a member of World
Government..." -
"AMERICAN MERCURY" MAGAZINE

[*NOTE: Actually, the "invisible government" not only financed
the formation and takeover
by these evil entities, they actually CREATED them in the first place! -
OL]
   1958
At the IVth InterAmerican Conference of Freemasonry in Santiago,
Chili, Masons
spell out their feelings on Communism: "Marxism and Freemasonry both
serve the
common ideal of earthly happiness...A Freemason can accept COMPLETELY
the
philosophical conceptions of Marxism. No conflict is possible between
the philosophical
conceptions of Marxism and Freemasonry." - DE PONCINS [102]
***
"Much has been written in recent years concerning Thomas
Jefferson's reference
in 1802 to 'a wall of separation between church and State'...Jefferson's
figure of speech
has received so much attention that ONE WOULD ALMOST THINK AT TIMES THAT
IT IS
TO BE FOUND SOMEWHERE IN OUR CONSTITUTION." - "BAER v. KOLMORGEN"
[103]

(Cotinued at The Joshua Files)

 The Joshua Files
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