This will be my only Columbine H.S. related Posting to this list. I just wanted to explain my opinions developed over the past few years of School Killings. Perhaps someone in Politics or law enforcement on this list is of some influence to help Stop the killing! I don't buy that guns, violent movies, bad music, video games, the Goth culture, Marilyn Manson, etc caused these kids to do those unspeakable crimes. Certainly the general cultural background has some influence in lowering natural human inhibitions against unspeakable and horrific acts. However in Europe they have the same cultural elements, but without the level of violent outburst that we have here in the U.S. So I asked my associates and friends if they would have done the same murderous things in their generations. All of us grew up with guns, listened to driving evil Heavy Metal music in High School, we never abruptly did such acts as we see now. Sure there were rotten kids among us, but their descents into criminal acts were more gradual, a stolen candy bar at the store, a drug arrest there, possession of stolen merchandise, then a bank holdup, and then time in Prison. All predictable for intervention by authorities before the lethal developments. In contrast todays School killings appear more abrupt, violent and thus unpredictable. I even spoke to my parent's generation, they had guns as children on the farm and during the Great Depression, they had never seen anything like today either. There IS a common denominator, something that wasn't around when we were young. I feel that the particular element is psychiatric anti-depressant drugs. Several years ago I visited a friend who worked as a Union Steward in a large metropolitan U.S. Post Office employing hundreds of people. Privately he described to me the 'cases' the he had to process on a daily basis. He told me personally about fellow employees showing up at work with guns and their literally 'going postal' with the guns along with various other violent act tirades. What seemed to be a common denominator for those at the time, were the use of prescription psychiatric drugs. Certainly like today's School killer children, there also existed other disturbing factors. We felt that the pharmaceutical industry was engaged in a coverup. Billions of dollars ride on these drugs. Many famous people use these drugs from George Stephenopoulous to Monica Lewinsky. The use of these is very prevalent even at our workplaces. I remember a few years ago a friend came up to my office cubicle and started telling a 'Prozac Joke'. I am African-American and when he finished it, a deadly silence came over the whole office area. We looked around and it was as if we had told a Rascist, a Sexist, or Anti-Jewish Joke or something, you could hear a pin drop. It dawned upon us that our fellow office workers did not like what we were saying, as they were probably taking medication. We became chilled at the pervasiveness, even in workplaces with extremely intelligent engineers. We are a drugged society. Some of us discussed this pervasiveness later, thinking that this will be the civil rights agenda of the next decades, ie... a laws to protect employees from discrimination because of the use of various psychiatric medications. What could numb a normal person to the natural senses of human compassion, caring and concern that I believe exists in all humans? Drugs. These drugs are designed to disconnect both the good and the bad overwhelming and depressive emotions, while maintaining rational logic processes. http://www.drudgereport.com/matt.htm X X X X X REPORT: KILLER REJECTED BY MARINES DAYS BEFORE SHOOTING; MEDICAL CONDITION KEPT STUDENT OUT OF CORPS Columbine High killer Eric Harris had hoped to join the Marines but he was on psychiatric medication, according to published reports out of Littleton on Tuesday evening. Harris was recruited as part of a telephone canvass and did well at a preliminary interview, but he was nixed after a meeting at his home April 15 -- just days before he went on a wild rampage -- after his parents "divulged a medical factor." X X X X X If you look back and research all of the School Killings of the past few years, you will find that nearly all of the perpetrators took prescription psychiatric medications, from Jonesboro, Arkansas to Springfield, Oregon. To me this is a single predictor that when coupled with the other variables could be used to isolate other Child killers. However, the companies that make these drugs have considerable political power and would resist efforts to expose these medications. That is my strongest belief toward a solution to these tragedies. That said, what I say next is even less credible, but yet should also be investigated: Now if you think in the conspirational mindset, one could take this one step further. There are a remarkable series of 'coincidences' associated with the 'timing' of these and other School killings which cannot be ignored. Politically, nothing in recent years has so shocked, galvanized and expanded the Gun Control efforts of Bill and Hillary Clinton, then these incidents. Gun Control is a very important step toward European style Socialism. A nation that is armed not only can resist criminal acts, but cannot be easily taken over by military might and edict. If you don't believe me, watch the high tech wars unfolding in Kosovo. Having Billions in high tech weaponry, the miilitary is afraid to send in ground troops, who will be fighting against forces armed with little more than the average serious NRA member. The ownership of guns, a free press, the ability to own and fly private aircraft, the ability to own and use Radio Transmitters, are among the few freedoms and privileges that distinquish the United States of America from the rest of the world's so called Democracies. While the Clinton's and friends look to Europe for higher civilization, they should go there to live. Serbia & Kosovo, show that Europe is not as civilized as they try to appear. The United States is unique among nations and should continue to strive to remain so, forget the One World Order! Enough said, back to the subject. The compassion over the Internationally televised bloody horrors caused by Child Shooters can reverse the most ardent NRA believer, and already have in many circles. Furthermore, these incidents have diverted the national psyche from very serious issues relating to the failed character of our President. Most recently the horrific breeches in our national security by China and other belligerent nations toward the making of devastating Nuclear Weapons and ICBMs. All falling under the direct responsibility of William Jefferson Clinton. Certainly if anything is an impeachable offense, High Treason is! How effective these School shootings have been, along with the Yugoslavia bombings to divert the Nation's attention from matters of utmost importance for our future survival as a nation! I ask, is this a coincidence? The first recent School killing incident occurred in Jonesboro, Arkansas. Clinton's home state. Is this merely a coincidence? I have already made dozens of postings to this list relating how Clinton is willing to do anything for naked power. He is not a wholesome person, his unprecedented scandals prove it. There is no doubt in my mind that William Jefferson Clinton will use ANY means necessary to maintain power, no matter how detestible, whether lies, corruptions, illlegal drugs, bribes, murder, bombings and War, sanctioned genocide of thousands, whatever.. How about this coincidence? http://dailynews.yahoo.com/headlines/local/state/colorado/story.html?s=v/rs/19 990420/co/index_3.html Concealed Weapons Bill Moves - (DENVER) -- Colorado's concealed weapons bill moved to the Senate Appropriations committee today. Senate Bill 84 seeks to set a statewide policy for the issuance of concealed weapons permits. Supporters of the bill say conceal-carry laws lower crime rates in the states where they've been put into effect. Opponents counter the argument, saying that allowing more guns on the streets will only lead to even more gun-related deaths. The House may vote on the bill as soon as Thursday. ============== http://dailynews.yahoo.com/headlines/local/state/colorado/story.html?s=v/rs/19 990413/co/index_2.html Weapons Bill Passes Senate - (DENVER) -- The Colorado Senate has given final approval to a bill that would require local sheriffs to issue concealed weapons permits... if applicants meet several conditions. The bill is now headed to the House for consideration. Applicants would have to undergo background checks and take a firearms training course in order to get a permit. It would bar them from bringing a concealed weapon onto school grounds, into sporting events and government buildings. ================== What are the odds? Colorado, the very state of the Shootings, was passing concealed weapons legislation on the very afternoon of the shootings, while Kosovo was also being bombed! Many of you have read my postings on this listserver regarding my theories on how TWA 800 could have been covered up, even if Navy ship and airplane crews mounting to hundreds were involved. You can look in the Flight 800 listserver archives and find my postings about the TWA 800 coverup and hypnosis. I made the case that with hypnosis, every crewman could go home and even talk to the wife, yet never reveal the secret. The crewman, his memory hand picked using hypnosis, could even help reveal the identities of ALL those who were present as witnesses, even innocent civilians. If there is difficulty I showed how and why. I even presented some credible papers and legal briefs on the matter. I have seen hypnosis in use, and it is no freak vaudeville acting! When my PhD Psychology professor attempted to hypnotize our whole class at the University during the Mid-1970's, I sat in the back of the room and was chilled by the implications for what I saw with my own eyes. The professor first attempted to hypnotize, then from this was able to determine who in the class was most susceptible. Then brought those to the front of the class to "leap like frogs", jump up onto tables and other strange antics. He said that not everyone could be hypnotized. However if he administered drugs, or could deprive the person of rest for a few days, he could hypnotize anyone! Children and youth are more susceptible than adults. To me, drugs make people susceptible to external control. You could then 'set the timer', a person and human being, for a time and location for the horrific acts, all using hypnosis. How could the Clinton's be connected? I present the following PBS Frontline episode as an exhibit. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/terror/etc/script.html FRONTLINE 1707 "The Child Terror" Airdate: October 27, 1998 The Child Terror Produced by Michael Kirk, Rick Young Peter J. Boyer, Correspondent Written by Peter J. Boyer and Michael Kirk Directed by Michael Kirk "The testimony against Bobby was elicited by private therapists hired by parents. One of those therapists was psychologist Susan Keeley." =========== If you saw that episode of Frontline, you begin to realize that Janet Reno was very experienced in psychological coercion of children during her time as DA in Miami, Florida. She used it to go after pediphiles. Now for me, I find pediphiles as disgusting and worthy of receiving wrath for destroying the innocence, trust and remaining lives of young children. But Janet Reno used methods that were unconstitutional by using Dr. Susan Keeley's techniques on children, to put suspect pediphiles in prison. It was Janet Reno's reputation for locking up pediphiles that brought the attention of professional child advocate, Hillary Clinton for the Attorney General job. Some say that it was claims of Waco Child Abuse that triggered Reno to unlawfully burn down David Koresh's compound, thus killing the very children she was supposedly trying to save. What I believe, without proof, is that there is no coincidence in the occurances of these unprecedented school killings. I believe that individuals could make determinations relating to the susceptiblity of kids through various means, then target them for post-hypnotic suggestions toward violent acts, even pinpoint the outbursts for certain specific and politically valuable times and days. This is not unlike the 1963 black and white movie "The Manchurian Candidate" starring Frank Sinatra. Go down to the video store and rent it for it is a true classic movie. I think that the late Frank Sinatra does his best acting ever in that movie. Jack Kennedy is said to have watched it, and the storyline centers around a Presidential assassination with hypnosis and using the same rifle as used by Lee Harvey Oswald. Some conspiracy theorists say it was designed to send a message to Kennedy before his assasination. So if anyone asked me why Columbine, or Springfield, or Jonesboro. This is what I would say! Best Regards, Marshall Houston Portland, Oregon http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_bresnahan/19990429_xex_doping_our_k.shtml THURSDAY APRIL 29 1999 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Doping our kids Prescription drugs at root of violence, says expert ------------------------------------------------------------------------ By David M. Bresnahan © 1999 WorldNetDaily.com Mind altering drugs may be the cause of violence among school children, according to some doctors and other experts. Millions of children are legally taking drugs similar to cocaine in schools every day. The drugs are Ritalin, Prozac, and others. The claims that behavioral drugs cause violence in children came after news reports that Eric Harris, one of the shooters in the Columbine High School shooting, was reported to have been taking such medication. Harris was also rejected by the Marines for medical reasons. The Marines would only say that anyone who is currently being treated by a doctor would be rejected. Other shootings and violent acts at schools across the nation have been committed by children receiving psychiatric care, counseling, and drugs such as Ritalin, according to several groups. At least two organizations claim that over-use of Ritalin is to blame for the escalating incidents of children committing acts of violence on other children. They claim the problem has reached pandemic proportions and will get worse before it gets better. Other experts place the blame on inadequate parenting, while legislators propose new laws. A report issued in 1995 by the Drug Enforcement Agency warned that Ritalin "shares many of the pharmacological effects of ... cocaine." There are some experts who claim Ritalin can cause psychotic reactions resulting in violent behavior toward others and suicide. Defenders of the drug claim those reactions are symptoms of the condition, not the drug itself. Support for the claim that the use of Ritalin can cause psychotic reactions can be found in medical literature and studies. A simple search on the Internet revealed extensive volumes of medically credible documents listing a vast number of warnings and side effects to the drug, which is classified by the U.S. government in the same category as cocaine and heroin. One Internet site provides frequently asked medical questions with answers from doctors. Drug Infonet warns that there are "no studies in animals or humans" and that "risks are unknown currently." Among the side effects the doctors warn about are "psychotic thought processes." "The use of Ritalin on children has no purpose other than to slow them down, shut them up, and make it more difficult for them to move around," described Dennis H. Clarke, Chairman, Executive Advisory Board, Citizens Commission On Human Rights International. He believes that Ritalin is an easy way out for parents and teachers, rather than dealing directly with behavior problems in children. Clarke also points to the "Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Third Revised Edition," published by the American Psychiatric Association, as supporting his claims of the dangers of Ritalin in children. All the critical information about Ritalin has been removed in the more recent edition, which he says supports his claim that the industry is engaged in a cover up. Proponents of the use of the drug claim the change was simply made in error. Clarke claims that children who take Ritalin in elementary school are often switched to Prozac and other drugs as they grow older. The effects of Ritalin can cause problems long after the prescription is stopped, he added. "When they go through puberty, this becomes true speed," explained Clarke. "They get these flashbacks and their thinking goes out of control. They're now looking for downers. They want the anti-depressants. They want the tranquilizer." Clarke is not alone. Dr. Ann Blake Tracy, director of the International Coalition for Drug Awareness is equally concerned. "They are switching lots of these kids from Ritalin to Prozac -- the frying pan into the fire routine," she told WorldNetDaily. "Kip Kinkel in the Oregon shooting last summer was a perfect example of the effects. The chances the boy in Arkansas was on it are great." She also pointed out that adults who use such drugs also commit violent crimes at a higher rate. Dr. Tracy is from Utah where the use of Ritalin and Prozac are reported to be at a rate three times greater than the rest of the country per capita. She said Utah's rate of murders and suicides has also increased by a similar amount. Dr. Tracy confirmed news reports that Harris reportedly was taking the drug Luvox, a drug in the same classification as Prozac. She said many people who take that drug are confronted with compulsive sexual behavior, in addition to exhibiting violent behavior. The stories of violent children leave many shaking their heads in disbelief and shock. Texas law would not even permit the arrest of two boys who allegedly abducted, beat, and sexually abused a 3-year-old girl because they are too young -- seven and eight years old. An 11-year-old was arrested in the incident, but children under 10 may not be detained. There have been numerous incidents in which young children have brought various weapons to school. Young children have recently held students at bay with guns at schools in Utah and Idaho. Some have used them, and one incident in Arkansas brought international attention when four school children and one teacher were shot dead at a middle school. Even peaceful students who were saying prayers outside their school fell victim to a classmate who gunned them down. The high number of incidents involving violent children, as well as an increase in children who commit suicide, can be attributed to an ever-increasing number of children who are being given drugs to control their behavior, according to Clarke. He agreed that the evidence for his claim is hard to come by. Medical information about the children in these incidents is typically confidential and never made public. He said he comes by his information through comments and remarks made to the press and in court, even though the actual medical records are not available to him. "We do know, for example, that the 13-year-old in Jonesboro was being treated. Apparently they were saying he had been sexually abused as a child. They were saying he was now a sexual abuser. He had a hyperactivity type label put on him as well -- or 'attention deficit disorder.' So we had several different things working with him. There is no chance under the sun, moon, or stars that this kid was not on drugs," described Clarke. Clarke went beyond his claims of psychotic side effects to the drug. He also claims that pharmaceutical companies go to great lengths and expense to cover up the problems that take place. When an incident of violence occurs, the pharmaceutical "crash teams" go to work to keep things quiet, according to Clarke. Teams of psychiatrists are sent to the places where incidents take place and quickly work to see that medical records are kept sealed, doctors are convinced to remain silent, and victims are given monetary payments to prevent them from ever going to court. "It's all being covered up, and it's deliberate. There are billions and billions of dollars at stake here," explained Clarke. He compared the cover up to the tobacco companies and the deceptions which are now apparently coming to light. Pharmaceutical companies respond to claims by Clarke and others by saying there is no credible proof to substantiate the claims. Credible proof would require a double blind controlled study, which the scientific community could also duplicate, and that type of study would be illegal, according to Clarke. "You can't run an experiment to see if somebody is going to take an AK-47 and shoot up everyone he knows. You can't run an experiment to find out if a child is going to kill himself," explained Clarke. A thorough review of medical literature was also performed by Mary Eberstadt of the Heritage Foundation's Policy Review magazine, found in the April edition. She points out that the drug has doubled in use since 1990 and has become popular for abuse by teens who have ready access to it. "Ritalin works on children just like cocaine and other stimulants work on adults -- sharpening the short-term attention span when the drug kicks in and producing 'valleys' when the effect wears off," Eberstadt points out. Teachers, school administrators, and even doctors hold to the belief that if a child responds well to Ritalin, then it is safe to conclude that the child suffers from ADD. A study by the National Institute of Mental Health disputes that assumption. That study shows that all children and adults who are given Ritalin will display improved performance and attention span, regardless of whether they are diagnosed with ADD or not. Utah is reported to have the highest per capita use of Ritalin in the nation. A call to a local elementary school found a teacher who believes strongly in the use of the drug to control otherwise difficult children. She did not want her name published, but confirmed that she routinely makes recommendations for children in her classes to be given the drug. All the children she has recommended have ended up with the prescription, and their parents have expressed gratitude. She said 11 of the 29 children in her first-grade class are now taking the drug in school each day. Clarke predicts the future will see an even greater number of violent children. Unless the correlation of the use of Ritalin with violent acts is openly established, Clarke says the general public, health officials, and parents will fail to recognize the true nature and the extent of a pandemic he says is already sweeping the nation. "Warning: sufficient data on the safety and efficacy (effectiveness) of long term use of Ritalin in children are not yet available," warns CIBA Pharmaceutical Company in a product information release. The warning is intended to serve as a protection from liability. The drug has been on the market for 50 years. "In other words, if you have a child on Ritalin, and leave the child on for a 'long term,' which is not defined but can be assumed to mean over three weeks, you are on your own as far as CIBA Pharmaceutical Company is concerned. They have warned you," described Clarke. "Ritalin only exists to slow down the fast kids and give us quieter and less active children. We now have at least 14 quieter less active children there in Colorado. This is the product that we're going to be seeing over and over again. These children are being devastated by the drugs," he warned. Herbert S. Okun, a member of the International Drug Control Board for the United Nations held a news conference recently to issue a warning. He said his board is very concerned that methylphenidate, or Ritalin, is greatly over-prescribed in the U.S. He said there are 330 million daily doses of Ritalin taken each day in the U.S., compared with just 65 million for the rest of the world. Ritalin is prescribed for children diagnosed with ADD. The condition has never been fully proven to even exist, and the criteria for diagnosis are so general that virtually anyone would qualify for a prescription. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ David M. Bresnahan, a contributing editor for WorldNetDaily.com, is the author of "Cover Up: The Art and Science of Political Deception," and offers a monthly newsletter "Talk USA Investigative Reports." He may be reached through email and also maintains a website. ================= http://38.201.154.103/articles/?a=1999/4/28/145329
