[CTRL] Fwd: Perpetual War Means Indefinite Tours of Duty
-Caveat Lector- Begin forwarded message: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: April 13, 2007 8:17:28 PM PDT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Perpetual War Means Indefinite Tours of Duty Sure Bush KNEW -- just as he knew the surge of 21,000 troops would actually involve twice that number. Call it what he may, this is truly an ESCALATION planned to go on well into 2008, right up to the election. And our troops shouldn't expect to hold the Administration to its word. I predict that, after 15 months, their tours will by unfortunate necessity have to be extended another 3 months ... and then another 3months ... Bush knew/didn't know about longer troop tours? Frank James April 13, 2007 http://newsblogs.chicagotribune.com/news_theswamp/2007/04/ bush_knew_yet_d.html What did President Bush know about the troop tour extensions and when did he know it? was the question at yesterday's White House press briefing. The question pertained to Wednesday's announcement by Defense Secretary Robert Gates that tours for active-duty soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan were being extended to up to 15 months from 12 months. A reporter noted that just the day before Gates's announcment, the president said during an appearance at an American Legion post that if congressional Democrats didn't send him an acceptable war spending bill soon, troop stays in the war zones could be lengthened. The reporter asked White House spokeswoman Dana Perino if the president was being forthright when he warned that congressional Democrats might cause longer troop tours when he must've known that his own Defense Secretary would soon be announcing that the administration would be itself extending those tours. Perino's answer, put politely, strained credulity. It was also downright confusing. And it didn't really answer what was a fairly simple question. She said she wasn't sure the commander-in-chief knew at the time of the American Legion speech Tuesday that the next day his own defense secretary would be announcing longer tours for troops in theater. But when pressed by the reporter who asked skeptically how the president could not know about such a major policy change she said that the president was aware that Gates was working on a way to deal with the manpower issue related to the surge. Then she reverted to talking points about the need for giving troops more certainty etc. So according to Perino, the president didn't know and knew at the same time. And he was straightforward on Tuesday when he blamed Democrats for potentially extending the tours but didn't mention that his administration would be definitely stretching those same duty tours. One possible reason the president didn't mention the tour extensions was because the troops and military families hadn't been told and he wanted them to hear it from their commanders first. At his Wednesday press conference, in fact, Gates said he was angry because someone in the Pentagon had leaked the information about tour extensions before the combatant commanders could tell their troops. So this could explain why the president didn't mention it at his American Legion appearance Tuesday. Still, the question remains of how he could blame Democrats for possibly lengthening tours when he was about to do the same. The tour extensions have also been in the works for some time as Army Dep. Chief of Staff, Lt. Gen. James Lovelace, told reporters at yesterday's Pentagon briefing. REPORTER: Yeah. Yes, sir, I believe you mentioned that you faced this challenge even prior to the plus-up. Can you run us through when you decided that -- or when you first gave consideration to this idea beyond just the individual unit extensions and decided to go with the blanket extension plan. GEN. LOVELACE: What we're referring to in this incident is, is that basically we knew that the demand or requirements that were coming out of CENTCOM, we saw this -- have been seeing this. We manage the force on a quarterly basis, I mean, we look at this in a very dedicated way on a quarterly basis. So -- and we assess then what is the requirement that's coming out of theater. So we began at that time to see, as the demand was exceeding the supply, then what we were going to need to do was either extend or break dwell. And that's why then we knew going in that what we would need to do is how do we preserve the integrity of what was the 12 months back at home station. And so we saw that and have seen that as we were walking into this position for the plus-up. Cut through all the arcane military talk and it appears the Pentagon knew even before the surge or plus-up was announced that it was going to have to extend Army tours for active-duty troops. That indicates that the Pentagon knew sometime last year about the extensions. Here's
[CTRL] Fwd: Perpetual War
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