Re: [CTRL] GI Joe

2003-01-14 Thread thew
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His politics are hardly relevant, as this country will not at this time
elect a Jewish president.


on 01/14/03 1:50 AM, Euphorian at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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 http://slate.msn.com/id/2076679/

 G.I. Joe Joe Lieberman's risky conservative campaign.
 By William Saletan
 Posted Monday, January 13, 2003, at 3:16 PM PT

 You know this isn't going to be a standard Democratic presidential campaign
 kickoff when the guy introducing Sen. Joe Lieberman asks everyone to stand
 and say the Pledge of Allegiance. With cameras rolling, Lieberman turns to the
 wall and recites the magic words: allegiance, flag, America, God. Stepping to
 the
 podium, he speaks of our God-given talents. He says he feels blessed by
 God and believes God's work must truly be our own. My faith is at the
 center
 of who I am, he continues. I'll not hesitate to talk about faith when it's
 relevant
 or to invoke God's name. … If the spirit moves me occasionally to say a word
 or
 two of faith, I think it's a very American thing to do.

 He smiles and sips from his glass as the audience applauds. Nobody's going to
 out-Christian Joe Lieberman.

 The 2004 presidential election is like a football game in a stiff wind. Every
 other
 Democrat—Howard Dean, John Edwards, Dick Gephardt, John Kerry—wants
 the wind in the first quarter. They're running to the left in the primaries,
 postponing the question of how, if they win the nomination, they'll get back
 to the
 center in a fourth-quarter showdown with President Bush.

 Lieberman is running the other way, into the wind. In the party of peace,
 secularism, and civil liberties, he's the candidate of God, family values, and
 military muscle. If he makes it to the fourth quarter against Bush, he'll have
 the
 wind at his back. The risk is that he'll be blown out of the game before he
 gets
 there.

 Kerry has a war record. Edwards and Gephardt support Bush's hard line against
 Iraq. But none of them can match Lieberman's hawkish record. He voted for the
 Persian Gulf War and spearheaded congressional support for the Iraqi
 resistance. Like Bush, he uses the E-word: We must never shrink from using
 American power to defend our ideals against evil in a time of war. He frames
 domestic issues in terms of national power. He speaks of strengthening
 homeland security while protecting Social Security. Of the current federal
 deficits, he warns, You can't keep doing that and keep America strong.

 Among Democrats, Lieberman is the closest thing to a cultural conservative. He
 extols family and faith and responsibility. As my state's attorney general,
 I
 stood with single moms to go after deadbeat dads, he proclaims. I have taken
 on the entertainment industry for peddling sex and violence to our
 children—and
 spoken up for parents who feel they are in competition with the popular
 culture
 to raise their children.

 Like his competitors, Lieberman preaches economic populism. But his version is
 more Clinton than Gore. He says his parents worked their way into the
 American middle class, vindicating the American promise that no matter who
 you are or where you start, if you work hard and play by the rules, you can go
 as
 far as your God-given talents will take you. Now, he worries, For too many
 Americans the middle class is drifting out of reach. Gore made populism sound
 like a civil war. Lieberman makes it sound like a war of national unity. A
 strong
 middle class means a strong America, he says.

 In Lieberman's story, the middle class doubles as the melting pot. It
 embraced,
 lifted, and assimilated his parents, who were children of immigrants. Today,
 their son promises to give a new generation of immigrants their fair chance
 to
 live the American Dream. The last Democrat who made that pledge ended up
 riding around in a tank in ads for Bush's father. Lieberman's betting that if
 somebody finds a picture of him in an M-1, the pairing won't look so
 outlandish.





 Love, Greg and Lauren - Greg Manning
 A Husband's Day-by-Day Account of His Wife's Remarkable Recovery
 Barnes  Noble




 William Saletan is Slate's chief political correspondent.
 A:E:R
 
 Forwarded for your information.  The text and intent of the article
 has to stand on its own merits.  Therefore, unless I am a first-hand
 witness to any event described, I cannot attest to its validity.
 
 In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material
 is distributed without charge or profit to those who have
 expressed a prior interest in receiving this type of information
 for non-profit research and educational purposes only.
 
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 Do not believe simply because it has been handed down for
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[CTRL] GI Joe

2003-01-13 Thread Euphorian
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http://slate.msn.com/id/2076679/

G.I. Joe Joe Lieberman's risky conservative campaign.
By William Saletan
Posted Monday, January 13, 2003, at 3:16 PM PT

You know this isn't going to be a standard Democratic presidential campaign
kickoff when the guy introducing Sen. Joe Lieberman asks everyone to stand
and say the Pledge of Allegiance. With cameras rolling, Lieberman turns to the
wall and recites the magic words: allegiance, flag, America, God. Stepping to the
podium, he speaks of our God-given talents. He says he feels blessed by
God and believes God's work must truly be our own. My faith is at the center
of who I am, he continues. I'll not hesitate to talk about faith when it's relevant
or to invoke God's name. … If the spirit moves me occasionally to say a word or
two of faith, I think it's a very American thing to do.

He smiles and sips from his glass as the audience applauds. Nobody's going to
out-Christian Joe Lieberman.

The 2004 presidential election is like a football game in a stiff wind. Every other
Democrat—Howard Dean, John Edwards, Dick Gephardt, John Kerry—wants
the wind in the first quarter. They're running to the left in the primaries,
postponing the question of how, if they win the nomination, they'll get back to the
center in a fourth-quarter showdown with President Bush.

Lieberman is running the other way, into the wind. In the party of peace,
secularism, and civil liberties, he's the candidate of God, family values, and
military muscle. If he makes it to the fourth quarter against Bush, he'll have the
wind at his back. The risk is that he'll be blown out of the game before he gets
there.

Kerry has a war record. Edwards and Gephardt support Bush's hard line against
Iraq. But none of them can match Lieberman's hawkish record. He voted for the
Persian Gulf War and spearheaded congressional support for the Iraqi
resistance. Like Bush, he uses the E-word: We must never shrink from using
American power to defend our ideals against evil in a time of war. He frames
domestic issues in terms of national power. He speaks of strengthening
homeland security while protecting Social Security. Of the current federal
deficits, he warns, You can't keep doing that and keep America strong.

Among Democrats, Lieberman is the closest thing to a cultural conservative. He
extols family and faith and responsibility. As my state's attorney general, I
stood with single moms to go after deadbeat dads, he proclaims. I have taken
on the entertainment industry for peddling sex and violence to our children—and
spoken up for parents who feel they are in competition with the popular culture
to raise their children.

Like his competitors, Lieberman preaches economic populism. But his version is
more Clinton than Gore. He says his parents worked their way into the
American middle class, vindicating the American promise that no matter who
you are or where you start, if you work hard and play by the rules, you can go as
far as your God-given talents will take you. Now, he worries, For too many
Americans the middle class is drifting out of reach. Gore made populism sound
like a civil war. Lieberman makes it sound like a war of national unity. A strong
middle class means a strong America, he says.

In Lieberman's story, the middle class doubles as the melting pot. It embraced,
lifted, and assimilated his parents, who were children of immigrants. Today,
their son promises to give a new generation of immigrants their fair chance to
live the American Dream. The last Democrat who made that pledge ended up
riding around in a tank in ads for Bush's father. Lieberman's betting that if
somebody finds a picture of him in an M-1, the pairing won't look so outlandish.





Love, Greg and Lauren - Greg Manning
A Husband's Day-by-Day Account of His Wife's Remarkable Recovery
Barnes  Noble




William Saletan is Slate's chief political correspondent.
A:E:R

Forwarded for your information.  The text and intent of the article
has to stand on its own merits.  Therefore, unless I am a first-hand
witness to any event described, I cannot attest to its validity.

In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material
is distributed without charge or profit to those who have
expressed a prior interest in receiving this type of information
for non-profit research and educational purposes only.

Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it.
Do not believe simply because it has been handed down for
many generations.  Do not believe in anything simply because
it is spoken and rumoured by many.  Do not believe in anything
simply because it is written in Holy Scriptures.  Do not believe
in anything merely on the authority of teachers, elders or wise
men.  Believe only after careful observation and analysis, when
you find that it agrees with reason and is conducive to the good
and benefit of one and all.  Then accept it and live up to it.
The Buddha 

[CTRL] GI Joe Coming to a House Near You

2002-09-27 Thread Euphorian

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From http://www.antiwar.com/comment/jcpenney.html

Here is what J.C. Penney's says about this product:
http://www3.jcpenney.com/jcp/products.asp?CatID=4024DeptID=446
GrpTyp=PRDItemID=05b5baaCatTyp=DEPRefPage=SendALink
Forward Command Post
$44.99
Take command of your soldiers from this fully outfitted battlezone. 75-piece set 
includes
one 111/2H figurine in military combat gear, toy weapons, American flag, chairs and 
more.
Assembled dimensions; 32x16x32H. Plastic. 10 lbs. Ages 5 and up.

This looks like the sort of toy that Norman Podhoretz or Bill Kristol would buy for 
their kids.

I was a pretty inventive kid. If I had had a younger sister I am confident I could have
converted her Barbie Dream House and saved the $45.

You may want to tell J.C. Penney's how you feel about this atrocity. Their corporate 
office
can be reached at 972-431-1000. Personally, I will be cutting my card in half and 
sending it
with a letter to their corporate office at 6501 Legacy Drive Plano, TX 75024-3698.

It is worth noting that, during the Kosovo war, J.C. Penney's added Antiwar.com to 
their list
of websites blocked on all their corporate computers.

We have also located similar products at two online toystores, eToys and KB Toys. Both
companies are owned by KB Holdings, 2833 S. Jones Blvd., Suite 8, Las Vegas, NV 88102.
Phone number 303-228-9000, fax number 303-226-8600.
~~~
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Forwarded as information only; I don't believe everything I read or send
(but that doesn't stop me from considering it; obviously SOMEBODY thinks it's 
important)
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Re: [CTRL] GI Joe Coming to a House Near You

2002-09-27 Thread Mermaid

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We have had Action Man over here for years lol The Mermaid x
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From: Euphorian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 6:26 PM
Subject: [CTRL] GI Joe Coming to a House Near You


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 From http://www.antiwar.com/comment/jcpenney.html

 Here is what J.C. Penney's says about this product:
 http://www3.jcpenney.com/jcp/products.asp?CatID=4024DeptID=446
 GrpTyp=PRDItemID=05b5baaCatTyp=DEPRefPage=SendALink
 Forward Command Post
 $44.99
 Take command of your soldiers from this fully outfitted battlezone.
75-piece set includes
 one 111/2H figurine in military combat gear, toy weapons, American flag,
chairs and more.
 Assembled dimensions; 32x16x32H. Plastic. 10 lbs. Ages 5 and up.

 This looks like the sort of toy that Norman Podhoretz or Bill Kristol
would buy for their kids.

 I was a pretty inventive kid. If I had had a younger sister I am confident
I could have
 converted her Barbie Dream House and saved the $45.

 You may want to tell J.C. Penney's how you feel about this atrocity. Their
corporate office
 can be reached at 972-431-1000. Personally, I will be cutting my card in
half and sending it
 with a letter to their corporate office at 6501 Legacy Drive Plano, TX
75024-3698.

 It is worth noting that, during the Kosovo war, J.C. Penney's added
Antiwar.com to their list
 of websites blocked on all their corporate computers.

 We have also located similar products at two online toystores, eToys and
KB Toys. Both
 companies are owned by KB Holdings, 2833 S. Jones Blvd., Suite 8, Las
Vegas, NV 88102.
 Phone number 303-228-9000, fax number 303-226-8600.
 ~~~
 AER
 + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
 Forwarded as information only; I don't believe everything I read or send
 (but that doesn't stop me from considering it; obviously SOMEBODY thinks
it's important)
 + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
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distributed without charge or
 profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this type
of information for
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Re: [CTRL] GI Joe Coming to a House Near You

2002-09-27 Thread Euphorian

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9/27/02 12:45:25 PM, Mermaid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

We have had Action Man over here for years lol The Mermaid x

You -- and all -- really need to go and see the image that is associated with this.  
Looks like
something out of Dresden after Bomber Whatsizface got done with it (Harris)?

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