[CTRL] How it REALLY works: Best example EVER ! Why Gore defended Bush in the Senate.

2001-01-07 Thread Nurev Ind Research

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Well DUH???

Why would anybody expect something different?

THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS.
They are BOTH part of our system of Plutocratic rule. The election was merely
a contest for which gang of Plutocrats gets their man into the White House.

IT IS NOT GORE'S JOB TO THREATEN THIS SYSTEM! If he did that, he would need to
look for another line of work. He IS one of the Elites. It's HIS system that
he is protecting.

==
 MichaelP wrote:

 The Dems and their candidate have clear responsibility for NOT even trying
 to recover a stolen election.

Recovering the stolen election would put the whole system under scrutiny, and
ultimately leave it open to democratic change. THIS IS DANGEROUS AND
UNACCEPTABLE TO OUR RULING ELITES. It has cost them much time and money to
get our political system just right. Just the way it is. They would not gladly
suffer anyone mucking about with it.

I would also point out that it was the Blacks in the House of Reps who have the
audacity to stir things up. But we must remember that those are merely the
representatives of the people. The Founding Finaglers made sure that the most
democratic institution was the weakest. On the other hand, Senators and Justices,
once elected or appointed, are untouchable by the citizenry.

Vice President (Senator) Gore did his job.

I strongly urge anybody reading this, to see the video of what transpired.
That picture is worth a thousand words.

Joshua2

 They will come round begging for forgiveness
 in a year or two, 

 Michael

 
 agence france presse

 Sunday, January 7 4:03 AM SGT

 Congress confirms Bush victory after contentious session

 WASHINGTON, Jan 6 (AFP) -

 George W. Bush was officially declared winner of the 2000 US presidential
 election Saturday after Electoral College votes were counted and certified
 by Congress in a contentious session featuring a walkout by black
 lawmakers.

 Democratic Vice President Al Gore, who won a majority of the popular vote
 in the bitterly contested November 7 election, announced the result in his
 capacity as US Senate president, giving Bush 271 electoral votes to his
 266, with one abstention.

 Bush's running mate Dick Cheney was declared vice president-elect by the
 same number of votes over Democrat Joe Lieberman.

 "I am honored," Bush said in Texas as the lawmakers gathered.

 "It's a humbling experience to become the president of this great land.
 And I want to reiterate what I said before: I'm going to be the president
 of everybody, whether they supported me or not. And people need to know
 that; people need to know that this is going to be an administration that
 will make decisions on what's best for America."

 The 538 electoral votes were cast December 18 in the 50 state capitals and
 the District of Columbia, the federal capital. Each state's vote was read
 and counted in alphabetical order in the joint session of Congress.

 A dozen members of the Congressional Black Caucus walked out of the
 mostly-empty House chamber as the votes were tallied after
* Gore rejected their contest to the 25 electoral votes from the
southeastern state of Florida. * [highlighted by me - J2]

 Presidential ballots in that state from the November 7 election were at
 the center of more than a month of bitter disputes over hand recounting of
 those which could not be read by voting machines. Gore was forced to
 concede defeat when the US Supreme Court barred recounting of the disputed
 ballots.

 Ironically, it was Gore who overruled challenges to the contested vote in
 Florida raised by members of the House of Representatives, because the
 objections had not been signed by a member of the Senate.

 "We have had our votes nullified, that's why we are so sad,"
 Representative Carrie Meek, a Florida Democrat, said later at a news
 conference.

 "All that's left for us now as the Congressional Black Caucus and as
 citizens of this country is to exercise our First Amendment right while we
 still have it and before it is further undermined by a politically
 dominated Supreme Court. We exercised our right today to protest against
 this ill-chosen nomination," Meek said.

 Earlier, Peter Deutsch, another Democratic representative from Florida,
 was ruled out of order when he called for a quorum -- a procedural move to
 delay the proceeding.

 In all, 13 Democratic representatives -- most of them members of the black
 caucus -- objected to Florida's votes. However, none was able to gain
 support among the 100 senators for an objection to delay the count.

 Federal law requires the support of at least one member of each house of
 Congress before an objection to a state's electoral votes can be
 considered.

 "It's a sad day in America when we can't find a senator to sign these
 objections," Representative Jesse Jackson Jr. of Illinois said, as Gore
 repeatedly pounded his gavel to silence him.

 Gore kept a tight rein 

Re: [CTRL] How it REALLY works: Best example EVER ! Why Gore defended Bush in the Senate.

2001-01-07 Thread tenebroust

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This has got to be one of the most cogent posts in quite some time which accurately 
paints the picture of what is really happening in the political system.  They all are 
backslappers of each other by necessity.  If convictions were involved then Gore would 
have contest the entire state in the beginning (he didn't which showed that he was not 
really serious and not basing his actions on "convictions" of his own) instead of just 
a place here and there.  If convictions were involved he would have continued to fight 
even though the Supreme Court ruled against him.
They, as the rulers behind the scenes all must support the system in which they rely 
on for their position and power.  Gore would never go outside the lines in that or he 
would threaten his own ascendancy as well as countless other elite leaders, movers and 
shakers in the country.  Do you think it would be allowed to happen?  Yeah right.
This just goes to show, ONCE and hopefully FOR ALL, that the whole contested election 
business, and the fiasco in Florida was just a sham for a purpose, otherwise it would 
never have happened in the first place, the system runs too well to be disrupted 
except by design.


On Sun, 07 January 2001, Nurev Ind Research wrote:


 -Caveat Lector-

 Well DUH???

 Why would anybody expect something different?

 THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS.
 They are BOTH part of our system of Plutocratic rule. The election was merely
 a contest for which gang of Plutocrats gets their man into the White House.

 IT IS NOT GORE'S JOB TO THREATEN THIS SYSTEM! If he did that, he would need to
 look for another line of work. He IS one of the Elites. It's HIS system that
 he is protecting.

 ==
  MichaelP wrote:
 
  The Dems and their candidate have clear responsibility for NOT even trying
  to recover a stolen election.

 Recovering the stolen election would put the whole system under scrutiny, and
 ultimately leave it open to democratic change. THIS IS DANGEROUS AND
 UNACCEPTABLE TO OUR RULING ELITES. It has cost them much time and money to
 get our political system just right. Just the way it is. They would not gladly
 suffer anyone mucking about with it.

 I would also point out that it was the Blacks in the House of Reps who have the
 audacity to stir things up. But we must remember that those are merely the
 representatives of the people. The Founding Finaglers made sure that the most
 democratic institution was the weakest. On the other hand, Senators and Justices,
 once elected or appointed, are untouchable by the citizenry.

 Vice President (Senator) Gore did his job.

 I strongly urge anybody reading this, to see the video of what transpired.
 That picture is worth a thousand words.

 Joshua2

  They will come round begging for forgiveness
  in a year or two, 
 
  Michael
 
  
  agence france presse
 
  Sunday, January 7 4:03 AM SGT
 
  Congress confirms Bush victory after contentious session
 
  WASHINGTON, Jan 6 (AFP) -
 
  George W. Bush was officially declared winner of the 2000 US presidential
  election Saturday after Electoral College votes were counted and certified
  by Congress in a contentious session featuring a walkout by black
  lawmakers.
 
  Democratic Vice President Al Gore, who won a majority of the popular vote
  in the bitterly contested November 7 election, announced the result in his
  capacity as US Senate president, giving Bush 271 electoral votes to his
  266, with one abstention.
 
  Bush's running mate Dick Cheney was declared vice president-elect by the
  same number of votes over Democrat Joe Lieberman.
 
  "I am honored," Bush said in Texas as the lawmakers gathered.
 
  "It's a humbling experience to become the president of this great land.
  And I want to reiterate what I said before: I'm going to be the president
  of everybody, whether they supported me or not. And people need to know
  that; people need to know that this is going to be an administration that
  will make decisions on what's best for America."
 
  The 538 electoral votes were cast December 18 in the 50 state capitals and
  the District of Columbia, the federal capital. Each state's vote was read
  and counted in alphabetical order in the joint session of Congress.
 
  A dozen members of the Congressional Black Caucus walked out of the
  mostly-empty House chamber as the votes were tallied after
 * Gore rejected their contest to the 25 electoral votes from the
 southeastern state of Florida. * [highlighted by me - J2]
 
  Presidential ballots in that state from the November 7 election were at
  the center of more than a month of bitter disputes over hand recounting of
  those which could not be read by voting machines. Gore was forced to
  concede defeat when the US Supreme Court barred recounting of the disputed
  ballots.
 
  Ironically, it was Gore who overruled challenges to the contested vote in
  Florida raised by