Re: [CTRL] Lawyer Alleges Federal Plot Unleashed AIDS on Blacks j2
-Caveat Lector- Johannes Schmidt IV wrote: -Caveat Lector- It's called genetic engineering. It's called science fiction fantasy bullshit. No one can do what you are alleging. Sorry, I didn't realise you no-doubt believe that the world is flat, It is flat. Just look around. 6,000 years old and the computer you're using works via a little man who runs around doing things. You shouldn't carry on about things which you are obviously so ignorant of. Genetic engineering is very advanced, cloning etc. is a reality (and many contend it has been used for several decades at least). I'm not saying genetic engineering is fantasy. I'm saying that g e can't do what you and that shyster say it can do. That is, target a specific ethnic group with a virus. This is absurd. You can infect groups of people, but once done the process can't be controlled. What you and the shyster are suggesting, is that the Pentagon developed a virus which can infect and kill Black people. What if an infected Black woman has sex with a China man, a Khazar, a black Aboriginal, and you? Is she the only one likely to die of aids? This is idiotic. But this is the claim. This is what you are saying is possible. And you say I don't understand biology. This lawyer is in the race hustling business like Al Sharpton, J.Jackson and that evil scumbag Johnny Cochoran (sp?). But this guy is stupid. This is my point. What he is alleging the government did is currently not possible to do without creating a general plague which will boomerang and effect your own population. As unpolitically correct as it is to say so, there are certain distinctive DNA features for Black people, gays, left-handed people etc. They can use that to make the virus far more agressive towards such people. How do you know this? Do you just make stuff up? What you think you are describing, can't be done yet. There is a way to target certain groups, but not through " genetic engeneering." No, I don't 'just make stuff up' as you so eloquently put it. Yes you do. Perhaps you should try and pass a high school level biology class and learn a bit about it, rather than making these hysterical allegations. And how else do you propose to target specific groups without using their genes? Ask them on the census? Is ignorance really bliss? I always wanted to know. J2 A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Lawyer Alleges Federal Plot Unleashed AIDS on Blacks j2
-Caveat Lector- You're a pinhead. May I suggest this article for your elucidation? http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_253180.html A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Lawyer Alleges Federal Plot Unleashed AIDS on Blacks j2
-Caveat Lector- Steve Wingate wrote: -Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded message follows --- Date sent: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 04:45:47 -0500 From: Zygote Media [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Lawyer Alleges Federal Plot Unleashed AIDS on Blacks To: Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lawyer Alleges Federal Plot Unleashed AIDS on Blacks A local black lawyer who has AIDS said he intends to take his case to the U.S. Supreme Court. http://www.vindi.com/local_news/272700775027714.shtml By DAVID PHINNEY STATES NEWS SERVICE WASHINGTON -- It's an accusation that embraces the most horrifying elements of a science fiction plot: An ultra-secret government program develops the AIDS virus and then the Pentagon unleashes it upon the world. The intended goal is to reduce the black population in Africa and the United States. Only one voice in the wilderness tirelessly works to expose the plot with years of digging through government records and butting heads with government bureaucrats. Then he braces for a last-ditch battle by taking his plea to the highest court in the land after being brushed away again and again by lesser courts. But this is not a movie, it's a real-life drama. Making allegations: The allegations of a secret program to hatch the AIDS epidemic are being made by Boyd E. Graves of Youngstown, an energetic black lawyer who has AIDS. I don't think this Shyster got aids from being fucked by the Pentagon. I think he got it from dipping his wick in unholy places. Graves, a U.S. Naval Academy graduate, wrote a new chapter to the drama this week in Washington, D.C., when he formally announced his intention to refile a suit against the federal government. On Thursday, Graves explained that he will accuse the federal government of developing 60,000 liters of a biological agent in 1978 that would subsequently be known as acquired immune deficiency syndrome (AIDS). This is possible. In a program then propelled by the Nixon Administration, Graves alleges, the Pentagon subsequently spread the virus in Africa and the United States to cull the black population of the world. This is stupid Black conspiracy theory. How the hell does the virus know who is Black? How does the virus know who is not Black? This is STUPID, STUPID, STUPID! Does the Pentagon want to wipe out the high percentage of Blacks in it's own armed forces? STUPID! Smoking gun: To bolster his argument, Graves said he has located a key piece of evidence that represents the smoking gun to his allegations. It's a government flow chart from 1971 that provides a road map to research programs, experiments and scientific papers that he believes were directly involved in the development of AIDS. Maybe. A number of reports on those 15 programs still exist, he said, and they detail every step and contract relating to the development of the human immune-deficiency virus (HIV), which has been linked to AIDS. Maybe. Once produced, the virus was then released in Africa through smallpox vaccines and in New York City during a controlled Hepatitis B experimental vaccine, he said. "The issue is not what I believe, because this is the truth and these are the facts," he explains. "I have the program that made the AIDS virus." Maybe. But it's a huge leap to claim that they targeted anyone group specifically. Once the disease is out there, there is no way to control it. This does not make for a good weapon. This moron would do better claiming that the Pentagon developed sickle cell anemia. That would be a more ethnospecific weapon. Well known: Officials with the National Cancer Institute, the National Institutes of Health and other agencies said they were unable to respond to Graves' allegations, though he is well known to many within the agencies and a cause of frustration because of his relentless digging for records. "There's no one here who remembers the Special Virus Program," offered one spokesman. Meaningless cover gibberish. "We know nothing about it," said another. "But no one denies I have the documents," The documents do not support his claim of intent. If true, they only support the fact that the military develops biological weapons. Now there's a flash. Graves retorts, though he has been unsuccessful in persuading two lower federal courts to call on witnesses to explain those records. Cases dismissed: In September 1999 the federal Sixth District Court in Cleveland dismissed his claims against the government. His case then was rejected by the U.S. 6th Circuit Court of Appeals in Cincinnati in January. Both courts ruled that Graves' allegations were frivolous and vague; one judge called him "delusional." "Graves' [sic] claim concerning the AIDS virus being injected into the American population by the Pentagon has no basis in law or in
Re: [CTRL] Lawyer Alleges Federal Plot Unleashed AIDS on Blacks j2
-Caveat Lector- In a program then propelled by the Nixon Administration, Graves alleges, the Pentagon subsequently spread the virus in Africa and the United States to cull the black population of the world. This is stupid Black conspiracy theory. How the hell does the virus know who is Black? How does the virus know who is not Black? This is STUPID, STUPID, STUPID! Does the Pentagon want to wipe out the high percentage of Blacks in it's own armed forces? STUPID! It's called genetic engineering. As unpolitically correct as it is to say so, there are certain distinctive DNA features for Black people, gays, left-handed people etc. They can use that to make the virus far more agressive towards such people. And yes, some of the racists probably would like to wipe out the blacks in the AF (the officers at least, the grunts are expendable anyhow). Smoking gun: To bolster his argument, Graves said he has located a key piece of evidence that represents the smoking gun to his allegations. It's a government flow chart from 1971 that provides a road map to research programs, experiments and scientific papers that he believes were directly involved in the development of AIDS. Maybe. A number of reports on those 15 programs still exist, he said, and they detail every step and contract relating to the development of the human immune-deficiency virus (HIV), which has been linked to AIDS. Maybe. Once produced, the virus was then released in Africa through smallpox vaccines and in New York City during a controlled Hepatitis B experimental vaccine, he said. "The issue is not what I believe, because this is the truth and these are the facts," he explains. "I have the program that made the AIDS virus." Maybe. But it's a huge leap to claim that they targeted anyone group specifically. Once the disease is out there, there is no way to control it. This does not make for a good weapon. This moron would do better claiming that the Pentagon developed sickle cell anemia. That would be a more ethnospecific weapon. Try reading up on the terrible health effects black children suffer from being forced to drink milk at government run schools. Well known: Officials with the National Cancer Institute, the National Institutes of Health and other agencies said they were unable to respond to Graves' allegations, though he is well known to many within the agencies and a cause of frustration because of his relentless digging for records. "There's no one here who remembers the Special Virus Program," offered one spokesman. Meaningless cover gibberish. Yet it isn't a denial. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Lawyer Alleges Federal Plot Unleashed AIDS on Blacks j2
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