Re: [CTRL] Milosevic To Name Names...Will He Be Suicided?

2001-07-03 Thread Tenorlove

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Nessie,

I've heard of his report but not read it yet; he's not mainstream. Do
you have a title or a URL? Thanks in advance

Tenorlove


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 Hess lived to a ripe old age in Spandau Prison, according to
 mainstream
 reports.


 Hugh Thomas made a compelling case to the contrary.


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Re: [CTRL] Milosevic To Name Names...Will He Be Suicided?

2001-07-03 Thread Nessie

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I've heard of his report but not read it yet; he's not mainstream. Do
you have a title or a URL? Thanks in advance


http://www.mightycool.com/historyspotlight/08171987.shtml

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Re: [CTRL] Milosevic To Name Names...Will He Be Suicided?

2001-07-02 Thread Tenorlove

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--- William Shannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Milosevic was
 under
 close supervision last night; his parents committed suicide and there
 are
 fears that he might try to do the same.

I'd like to see some evidence that his parents willfully committed
suicide. or are we adding them to the U.N. Body Count?

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Re: [CTRL] Milosevic To Name Names...Will He Be Suicided?

2001-07-02 Thread Tenorlove

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Bill Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 Yup, the guards will find him feet up on the bottom of his cage some
 morning.
 The cornor's ruling will be he died by his own hand.

That's right, Bill.. the presdisposition to being suicided runs in
families. Sorry folks, pre-emptive suicide by those who know stuff is
about as credible as the lone nut gunman.

Just like
 Reichs furer
 Hess.

That was Goering who was suicided in his cell right before he was to go
on trial. Hess lived to a ripe old age in Spandau Prison, according to
mainstream reports.

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Re: [CTRL] Milosevic To Name Names...Will He Be Suicided?

2001-07-02 Thread Bill Howard

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In a message dated 7/2/01 3:38:45 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I'd like to see some evidence that his parents willfully committed
suicide. or are we adding them to the U.N. Body Count? 

Remember Herr Goring, he was under close opservation and the authorities
found him at room temperture one morning.

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Re: [CTRL] Milosevic To Name Names...Will He Be Suicided?

2001-07-02 Thread Nessie

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Hess lived to a ripe old age in Spandau Prison, according to mainstream
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Hugh Thomas made a compelling case to the contrary.

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[CTRL] Milosevic To Name Names...Will He Be Suicided?

2001-07-01 Thread William Shannon
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/et?ac=000339931511020rtmo=3H3Bu8HMatmo=
pg=/et/01/7/1/wslob01.html



Milosevic: I'll name British leaders who helped me

By Julius Strauss and Philip Sherwell in Belgrade and Joe Murphy in London

SLOBODAN MILOSEVIC is planning to embarrass Britain and other Western
governments by revealing at his war crimes trial at The Hague the secret
deals which he claims propped up his regime during a decade of bloodshed in
the Balkans.

Lawyers for the deposed Serbian president will name three former Foreign
Secretaries, Lord Hurd, Lord Carrington and Lord Owen, in a strategy designed
to implicate British and American diplomatic figures in the bloody break-up
of Yugoslavia.

They will claim that he was given a "green light" for many of his most
controversial actions, including the use of force, by Western governments.
Branimir Gugl, one of Milosevic's lawyers, told The Telegraph yesterday: "Mr
Milosevic feels that Nato are the real criminals and that will be part of his
defence."

Milosevic will argue that the British peers, along with Foreign Office
diplomats, were involved in negotiating peace deals that were designed to
maintain him in power despite his record.

Lord Hurd's later role as a director of National Westminster Bank in striking
a lucrative deal with Milosevic to refinance the Serbian economy is likely to
be highlighted during the trial. Milosevic is expected in court on Tuesday.

The former president, nicknamed the Butcher of Belgrade for his pitiless
treatment of ethnic minorities, is said to feel betrayed by Western
negotiators.

A Senior Foreign Office official said: "We will not be surprised if Lord
Hurd's dealings with Milosevic are raised during the trial but in fact our
hands are clean, we have nothing to hide. The French government may well be
nervous about its own friendly relationship with Milosevic right up to 1999
being brought up."

Lord Hurd, who aroused controversy by opposing American plans to lift the
arms embargo on Bosnia's Muslims, later became the deputy chairman of NatWest
Markets and brokered a deal to privatise Serbia's telecoms service. At a
secret business breakfast with Milosevic, he was accompanied by Dame Pauline
Neville-Jones, formerly Britain's most senior woman diplomat, who had also
joined the bank.

The French are believed to have maintained communications with the Serbs
during the Nato bombing campaign which was beset by leaks of targets. Serbs
claimed that Gen Bernard Janvier, a French former UN commander, secretly
promised to veto air strikes in 1995 provided that they released 300 UN
hostages. A month later, the Bosnian Serb army attacked Srebrenica, killing
7,000 Muslims in Europe's biggest war crime in 50 years.

Milosevic's lawyers plan to call former peace envoys to give evidence. These
include Lord Carrington, the chief negotiator for the European Union in
1991-92, Lord Owen, who co-brokered the 1993 Vance-Owen peace deal, and
Richard Holbrooke, the American who brokered the Dayton accord on Bosnia.

They, in turn, are likely to explain that whatever their misgivings about
Milosevic, his position as "strong man" in the region meant that they could
not ignore him.

Officials in The Hague, where Milosevic has been held since Thursday, say
they expect to broaden his charges to include genocide. Milosevic was under
close supervision last night; his parents committed suicide and there are
fears that he might try to do the same.






Re: [CTRL] Milosevic To Name Names...Will He Be Suicided?

2001-07-01 Thread Bill Howard

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Yup, the guards will find him feet up on the bottom of his cage some morning.
The cornor's ruling will be he died by his own hand.  Just like Reichs furer
Hess.

BHoward

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