[CTRL] Negatives From Film Shot At Waco Are Missing...

2000-04-21 Thread Steve Wingate

 Negatives From Film Shot
 At Waco Are Missing...
  (big surprise)
 By William H. Freivogel and Terry Ganey
   St. Louis Post-Dispatch - Scripps Howard News Service
link
  4-18-00


 The Justice Department admits it can't not find the
 original negatives of an important roll of film taken
 on the last day of the siege of the Branch Davidians'
 complex. But it says it hasn't tampered with those
 photos or with infrared and electronic surveillance
 tapes of the 1993 episode that left about 80 Branch
 Davidians dead.

 The government acknowledged in a court filing
 Monday that it is missing 30 original negatives from
 the first of at least seven rolls of film shot by an FBI
 photographer who circled 1,000 feet above the
 complex in a Cessna surveillance aircraft.

 But the government does have prints of the missing
 negatives and the original contact sheet of the
 negatives.

 This roll of film is important because it appears to
 show that there are no government agents standing
 where flashes show up on infrared surveillance tape
 of the incident. The absence of agents undercuts
 the Branch Davidians' claim that the flashes are
 from the guns of agents firing into the complex.

 One strip of original negatives from that first roll of
 film has been turned over to the federal court that is
 hearing the Branch Davidians' wrongful death suit
 against the government. That strip contains a key
 photograph that appears to have been taken at
 11:24 a.m., within seconds of flashes on the video.
 That photograph shows no agents in the vicinity of
 the flashes.

 But the other negatives from that roll of film have
 been missing since at least 1997 and have not been
 found despite an extensive search by the FBI, the
 Justice Department said. Agents searched for the
 negatives at least five times.

 The department said that the strip of original
 negatives with the photo from 11:24 a.m. was
 separated from the missing original negatives when
 Congress requested it as part of its 1995
 investigation of Waco.

 A document analyst with the Special Photo Unit of
 the FBI, identified only as "ALS," found that the
 negatives were missing around April 1997. The FBI
 then made a duplicate set of the negatives from
 photographs and marked them with the notation
 "originals lost."

 The Davidians' attorney, Michael Caddell, had
 claimed that one of the photos from the replacement
 negatives had a white scratch that appeared to
 obliterate a speck that might be a person. But the
 Justice Department said that the contact sheet,
 made from the original negative, had no person or
 speck.

 The Justice Department also disputed Caddell's
 claim that several rolls of the film were missing. The
 photographer taking the film that said he took about
 10 rolls, give or take one or two. The FBI produced
 seven rolls. In Monday's court filing, the department
 produced logs and records that appear to show that
 only seven rolls were shot and developed.

 The government argued in its court filing that it
 should not be fined for any 

Re: [CTRL] Negatives from film shot at Waco are Missing (fwd)

2000-04-19 Thread Bill Kingsbury

   This roll of film is important because it appears
   to show that there are no government agents
   standing where flashes show up on infrared
   surveillance tape of the incident. The absence of
   agents undercuts the Branch Davidians' claim
   that the flashes are from the guns of agents
   firing into the complex.


ARMED, CAMOUFLAGED, REMOTE-CONTROLLED ROBOTS
PROVE THEIR METTLE AT WACO -- MISSION GOALS
ACHIEVED, PLAUSIBLE DENIABILITY A SUCCESS.

IT NEVER HAPPENED.


At 06:26 AM 4-18-2000 -0700, you wrote:
Monday, April 17, 2000

   Negatives from film shot at Waco
   are missing, U.S. says

By William H. Freivogel and
   Terry Ganey
   Of the Post-Dispatch

 The Justice Department admitted Monday that
   it could not find the original negatives of an
   important roll of film taken on the last day of
   the siege of the Branch Davidians' complex. But
   it said it had not tampered with those photos or
   with infrared and electronic surveillance tapes of
   the 1993 episode that left about 80 Branch
   Davidians dead.

   The government acknowledged in a court filing
   Monday that it is missing 30 original negatives
   from the first of at least seven rolls of film shot
   by an FBI photographer who circled 1,000 feet
   above the complex in a Cessna surveillance
   aircraft.

   The government, however, does have prints of
   the missing negatives and the original contact
   sheet of the negatives.

   This roll of film is important because it appears
   to show that there are no government agents
   standing where flashes show up on infrared
   surveillance tape of the incident. The absence of
   agents undercuts the Branch Davidians' claim
   that the flashes are from the guns of agents
   firing into the complex.

   One strip of original negatives from that first
   roll of film has been turned over to the federal
   court that is hearing the Branch Davidians'
   wrongful death suit against the government.
   That strip contains a key photograph that
   appears to have been taken at 11:24 a.m.,
   within seconds of flashes on the video. That
   photograph shows no agents in the vicinity of
   the flashes.

   But the other negatives from that roll of film
   have been missing since at least 1997 and have
   not been found despite an extensive search by
   the FBI, the Justice Department said. Agents
   searched for the negatives at least five times.

   The department said that the strip of original
   negatives with the photo from 11:24 a.m. was
   separated from the missing original negatives
   when Congress requested it as part of its 1995
   investigation of Waco.

   A document analyst with the Special Photo Unit
   of the FBI, identified only as "ALS," found that
   the negatives were missing around April 1997.
   The FBI then made a duplicate set of the
   negatives from photographs and marked them
   with the notation "originals lost."

   The Davidians' attorney, Michael Caddell, had
   claimed that one of the photos from the
   replacement negatives had a white scratch that
   appeared to obliterate a speck that might be a
   person. But the Justice Department said that
   the contact sheet, made from the original
   negative, had no person or speck.

   The Justice Department also disputed Caddell's
   claim that several rolls of the film were missing.
   The photographer taking the film that said he
   took about 10 rolls, give or take one or two. The
   FBI produced seven rolls. In Monday's court
   filing, the department produced logs and records
   that appear to show that only seven rolls were
   shot and developed.

   The government argued in its court filing that it
   should not be fined for any discrepancies
   involving the photos or tapes.




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[CTRL] Negatives from film shot at Waco are Missing (fwd)

2000-04-18 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

Monday, April 17, 2000

   Negatives from film shot at Waco
   are missing, U.S. says

By William H. Freivogel and
   Terry Ganey
   Of the Post-Dispatch

 The Justice Department admitted Monday that
   it could not find the original negatives of an
   important roll of film taken on the last day of
   the siege of the Branch Davidians' complex. But
   it said it had not tampered with those photos or
   with infrared and electronic surveillance tapes of
   the 1993 episode that left about 80 Branch
   Davidians dead.

   The government acknowledged in a court filing
   Monday that it is missing 30 original negatives
   from the first of at least seven rolls of film shot
   by an FBI photographer who circled 1,000 feet
   above the complex in a Cessna surveillance
   aircraft.

   The government, however, does have prints of
   the missing negatives and the original contact
   sheet of the negatives.

   This roll of film is important because it appears
   to show that there are no government agents
   standing where flashes show up on infrared
   surveillance tape of the incident. The absence of
   agents undercuts the Branch Davidians' claim
   that the flashes are from the guns of agents
   firing into the complex.

   One strip of original negatives from that first
   roll of film has been turned over to the federal
   court that is hearing the Branch Davidians'
   wrongful death suit against the government.
   That strip contains a key photograph that
   appears to have been taken at 11:24 a.m.,
   within seconds of flashes on the video. That
   photograph shows no agents in the vicinity of
   the flashes.

   But the other negatives from that roll of film
   have been missing since at least 1997 and have
   not been found despite an extensive search by
   the FBI, the Justice Department said. Agents
   searched for the negatives at least five times.

   The department said that the strip of original
   negatives with the photo from 11:24 a.m. was
   separated from the missing original negatives
   when Congress requested it as part of its 1995
   investigation of Waco.

   A document analyst with the Special Photo Unit
   of the FBI, identified only as "ALS," found that
   the negatives were missing around April 1997.
   The FBI then made a duplicate set of the
   negatives from photographs and marked them
   with the notation "originals lost."

   The Davidians' attorney, Michael Caddell, had
   claimed that one of the photos from the
   replacement negatives had a white scratch that
   appeared to obliterate a speck that might be a
   person. But the Justice Department said that
   the contact sheet, made from the original
   negative, had no person or speck.

   The Justice Department also disputed Caddell's
   claim that several rolls of the film were missing.
   The photographer taking the film that said he
   took about 10 rolls, give or take one or two. The
   FBI produced seven rolls. In Monday's court
   filing, the department produced logs and records
   that appear to show that only seven rolls were
   shot and developed.

   The government argued in its court filing that it
   should not be fined for any discrepancies
   involving the photos or tapes.




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