Re: [CTRL] Reply to June re: Crowley biography

2000-09-08 Thread Gremlin 

Yes, I would like to know more about Crowley's activities.
His name comes up quite a bit in some of the research i am doing.
Gremlin
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From: Tenorlove [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: [CTRL] Reply to June re: Crowley biography


--- Ynr Chyldz Wyld [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Now if you wish to discuss Crowley's involvement in the creation of
 the modern 'spook' agencies, that is quite
 another matter altogether...

I'd like to know more about this, June.

Tenorlove

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Re: [CTRL] Reply to June re: Crowley biography

2000-09-08 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld 

From: "Birds" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 My claims are not outrageous.  You say opinions are different
than facts.  Well nobody in here can state any facts because there
is no proof of most anything that is said here!!!

And yet you expect to us to blindly accept everything you post, without question.

That is NOT the purpose of this list.  If you are looking for a support group, you 
will have to go elsewhere.


Once again you display your ignorance of this list, if you equate
blind acceptance of your outrageous claims

   Once again you have proven to be the kind lady that you are. You
should talk by saying anything like this to me.  You are not a
lady so don't call anyone else  not one because you wear the shoes.

As is evidenced in my own statement, I didn't say a thing about anyone being a lady or 
not being one.

Being a lady or not being one has no bearing on the issue.  The issue is providing 
documentation when one
makes outrageous claims like you do.  If one doesn't, one has to be prepared for more 
than a modicum of
skepticism, and not whine about it when that skepticism is voiced.


 You often have exposed bad behaviours in here.

Yes, such as yours and your alter ego, 'Aleisha', and your mother alter ego, 
'Colleen'...


You also antagonized me below by calling me a little girl.

Well, when you stamp your foot and whine like you do when the rest of us don't play 
the game you want to play,
that is what you are.


 It is you who seek the devotion of this group by trying to
control people's thoughts.  You my June yes you.  You get mad when
not agreed with.

There are many people on this list I don't agree with, and who don't agree with me, 
yet we don't 'get mad' at
each other.

No, I'm not the one coming onto this list posting outrageous claims like you and your 
alter egos, and not
providing one iota of documentation or evidence to support such claims, and then 
whining and bitching when
challenged to provide such documentation or evidence.  You are the one who is 
demanding that we not question
anything you say, which is a sign of someone in desperate need of being able to 
control others.


June

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Re: [CTRL] Reply to June re: Crowley biography

2000-09-08 Thread William Shannon 

In a message dated 9/8/00 12:53:13 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:

 All he had to say is that he totally did not agree with my philosopy and
why 

It isn't philosophy, Crowley was no more involved in "satanism" than Mother
Teresa...hmmm, maybe even LESS!!!

Bill.

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Re: [CTRL] Reply to June re: Crowley biography

2000-09-07 Thread Tenorlove 

--- Ynr Chyldz Wyld [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Now if you wish to discuss Crowley's involvement in the creation of
 the modern 'spook' agencies, that is quite
 another matter altogether...

I'd like to know more about this, June.

Tenorlove

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Re: [CTRL] Reply to June re: Crowley biography

2000-09-07 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld 

From: "Tenorlove" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Now if you wish to discuss Crowley's involvement in the creation of
  the modern 'spook' agencies, that is quite
  another matter altogether...

 I'd like to know more about this, June.

I'd have to find and dig out some long buried books...but from what I remember 
offhand, Crowley himself
alluded to being intimately involved with some spook stuff -- of the international spy 
variety -- and
supposedly had a hand in creating the modern spook agencies in both the U.K. and the 
U.S.

He also claimed that he and his friends in the occult world were instrumental in 
causing WWI...according to
him, causing the war was the first step necessary to bring about a new world order 
(although he didn't use
that exact terminology).


June

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[CTRL] Reply to June re: Crowley biography

2000-09-07 Thread Birds 

I was not name calling nor being ignorant.  Bill was and it is here in evidence where 
he said well this birdie is a dodo.  Oh that
is not attacking?  He set off the anger.  All he had to say is that he totally did not 
agree with my philosopy and why.  That is
what anyone on this list should be doing instead of attacks on the person.  I guess I 
must be a dodo to stay in here.  But I stay
for the great articles some people put in here with whom I agree.

His quote indeed..

Uh huh...I guess this "birdie" is a dodo then?
This analysis is so ridiculous and simplistic that the factual errors are
almost lost...Crowley "started satanism"??
Hm...not even clear that he practised "satanism" much less "started"
it...What tripe!

I have written inbetween all the way down this posting.  Sorry it is so out of sorts.



I do not display ignorance.  Everyone has a right to their own opinion.


.

 No, it is you who display such ignorance, or perhaps a desire to disseminate 
disinformation.

  Answer

My claims are not outrageous.  You say opinions are different than facts.  Well nobody 
in here can state any facts because there is
no proof of most anything that is said here!!!

 


 Opinions are not necessarily facts.



 Once again you display your ignorance of this list, if you equate blind acceptance 
of your outrageous claims



  Once again you have proven to be the kind lady that you are. You should talk by 
saying anything like this to me.  You are not a
lady so don't call anyone else  not one because you wear the shoes.  You often have 
exposed bad behaviours in here.

 with 'respect', and expect no one to challenge your outrageous and still 
undocumented claims.


No this is not the forum for me because I want to be in one with kind ordinary people 
who debate in a healthy way instead of putting
people down.  That maliciously hurts people.  If this list is the way it is done.  You 
also antagonized me below by calling me a
little girl.  Are you any better  I think you and Bill would make a great couple.  
That's what I think.  It is not up to you to
determine what list I need to be on. Do you get your pleasure out of doing this?  Are 
you into SM?  You would be a great candidate
for that.  I bark back when barked at first.



 This is not the forum for you, little girl.  Go find a list that will give you the 
unquestioning devotion you
 seek, for this list will not.



It is you who seek the devotion of this group by trying to control people's thoughts.  
You my June yes you.  You get mad when not
agreed with.






  You are probably a follower yourself and trying to make me look
  foolish.

 No one has to try, little girl...you do a fine job of that yourself.


  Well, guess what, I don't care and it didn't work.






 If that were true, you wouldn't have even bothered responding...  ;-)


 June



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