Re: [CTRL] Reply to NSA The Diana Forum

2000-09-10 Thread Nurev Ind Research

Ynr Chyldz Wyld wrote:

 From: "Aleisha Saba" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  So my question is, what is a "twat"?

 Just look in the mirror, you'll see the answer...

 June

You go girl.

J2

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Re: [CTRL] Reply to NSA The Diana Forum

2000-09-10 Thread Aleisha Saba

Joshua - We know what June sees when she looks in the mirror, do we not.

When I look in the mirror, I see a woman who was and is considered
beautiful by her family and friends and deceased husband.still look
like a younger Maureen O'Hara..

So June looks in mirror and sees what?   Shame, beauty is in eye of
beholder.

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Re: [CTRL] Reply to NSA The Diana Forum

2000-09-09 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld

From: "Aleisha Saba" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Boy that June with a vocabulary like that, she must have done some hard
 time somewhere.

 Such language.

"Such language", such as WHAT?

I guess to someone like you and your subpersonalities Birdie and Colleen, 'facts', 
'evidence', and
'documentation' ARE dirty words.


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[CTRL] Reply to NSA The Diana Forum

2000-09-08 Thread Birds

The Royal Family is dirty as dirty gets.  Diana was killed for more reason than the 
land minds.  Much much more.  Elizabeth wanted
her gone.  Also there was her boyfriend and no one knows what really happened, but it 
was no damn accident.  Who races that fast
with the queen in the car and Dodi would have said something about that.


In answer to this:
 Frankly "Birds" I think you are either nuts or a mindless sycophant of
 garrulous media hype.



Well if nuts is being me, I'd rather be nuts that someone "sane" like yourself.

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Re: [CTRL] Reply to NSA The Diana Forum

2000-09-08 Thread NSA

Birdie, I think maybe you ought to calm down a bit else the Paramedics will
need calling.

Your personal like, or dislike of the Royals, or whomever for that matter,
is quite irrelevant. Blackening the Royals doesn't of itself make the
twitty-twat Diana and whiter.

One point worth remembering when confronted with some of the crazed
conspiracy theories, for example, that there was a pre-meditated plot to
have her ritually sacrificed beneath the Pont de l'Alma on Aug 31st as has
been suggested by such loonies - is that it was only pure chance that Diana
was in Paris that weekend at all.

There were no initial plans to spend the weekend there. As was pointed out
with much vehemence by the UK tabloids at the time was that she was actually
supposed to return to the UK several days earlier directly from Sardinia.

It was also pure chance that they decided to dine at the Ritz that evening
instead of his apartment - the decision being taken by Dodi.

Also the point about the car hitting the 13th pillar deliberately is just
ridiculous. The Mercedes slammed into the right side wall of the tunnel on
it's right-hand rear side first before it crashed into the pillar thereby
losing control.

Henri Paul must have been one hell of a driver to pull that one off at over
100 kph. Also, if it was important for her to be sacrificed on Aug 31st then
how could they have guaranteed this? The crash happened minutes after
midnight - pure chance yet again. They could have left The Ritz at any given
time during the evening.

Here is some information from the report of the accompanying Public
Prosecutor's report which will assist you with the facts and help explain
the supposed "ANOMALIES" some have invented over the accident.

"The experts NIBODEAU-FRINDEL and AMOUROUX, for their part, concluded that
the contact between the Mercedes and the Fiat "Uno" only consisted of a
simple scrape, which had not lead to a significant reduction in speed by the
Mercedes.
The speed at which the Mercedes was travelling was described as very fast by
all the witnesses, both during the journey along the banks [of the Seine]
and at the moment when it entered the tunnel.

Mr NIBODEAU-FRINDEL and Mr AMOUROUX estimated the speed of the Mercedes,
before the collision at a total of between a maximum of 155 km/hour and a
minimum of 118 km/hour and the speed, at the moment of the crash on the
thirteenth pillar of the Alma tunnel was between 95 and 109 km/hour with a
margin of error of more or less 10%.
They attributed the direct causes of the accident to this excessive speed
which, taking account of the particular profile of the road, had rendered
the vehicle difficult to control, all the more so because of the presence of
the Fiat "Uno" at the entrance of the tunnel and the fact that the driver of
the Mercedes had a very poor control of his vehicle.
They finally stated that Emad AL FAYED and Lady Diana SPENCER would have
survived if they had fastened their safety belts."

Here's the so-called "anomalies" -

1:Why were there no security cars. Someone with as high a profile as Diana
should have had at least one car behind and one in front

This was far from the case even when Diana was in London. She was well known
to go about her daily business with little or no security arrangements. Her
daily visits to the gymnasium in Chelsea, as well as frequent lunches at La
Caprice restaurant were nearly always conducted on her own. If you recall
there were numerous incidents of her being pursued by press photographers
when she was totally vulnerable on her own. She valued what little privacy
she had left and any opportunity to engage in normal activities were
enthusiastically embraced. As for Paris the report states:

"The Princess had not advised the British Embassy of her presence in France
and had not requested any particular protection from the French
 authorities."


2: Why did they use Henri Paul? He was not a qualified chauffeur.

From the report:

"In fact, if the appointment of Henri PAUL as the driver poses a problem
about the awareness of his state on the evening in question and his
intemperance, it should also lead to an examination of the conditions in
which it had been decided to resort to a vehicle from the company Etoile
Limousine, whose fleet was made up of high powered cars, necessitating to
drive them, the possession of a special licence, which Mr Henri PAUL did not
possess.
(D1023 - D4936)
On this point the versions of the Ritz management and Jean François MUSA,
the manager of Etoiles Limousine, diverge : Jean François MUSA claimed that
he had expressed reticence when he heard that Henri PAUL would drive the
car, notably because he did not have an ad hoc licence, but no witness
confirms this point.
Jean François MUSA, who however admitted still allowing the use of the
vehicle, despite knowing that Henri PAUL was to drive it, justified this by
reason of the fact that he could not refuse what was asked of him.
Now, examining the nature of the 

Re: [CTRL] Reply to NSA The Diana Forum

2000-09-08 Thread nessie

[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes:

Also, if it was important for her to be sacrificed on Aug 31st then
how could they have guaranteed this? The crash happened minutes after
midnight - pure chance yet again. They could have left The Ritz at any
given
time during the evening.



A car could have been waiting up ahead. When notified she was coming, it
could maneuvered to be right in front of her when she entered the tunnel.
This is VERY elementry trade craft, real 101 level stuff. Once in the
tunnel a guy in the back seat leans around and blinds her driver with a
strobe or a laser, and speeds off. Piece of cake. That doesn't mean it
happened, but it does mean it's possible.

That doesn't mean it was the Illuminati, the Masons, the CIA or the Mystic
Knights of the Sea, however. It could have been done by any three guys who
wanted to do it badly enough.

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Re: [CTRL] Reply to NSA The Diana Forum

2000-09-08 Thread Samantha L.

In a message dated 9/8/00 5:02:26 AM Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Blackening the Royals doesn't of itself make the
  twitty-twat Diana and whiter.


Hey, will you please stop using the 4-letter t word?  My God - if you need to
express passionate feelings using colorful language, could you at least save
the language for those who are heinous enough to really deserve it?  You must
be a guy - I can't imagine any woman throwing that word around so casually.
It is more than derogatory.

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Re: [CTRL] Reply to NSA The Diana Forum

2000-09-08 Thread Aleisha Saba

What is wrong with word "twat"..what does it mean..took me 20
years to find out what the world "f" meant - usually this language
is underwrold langage used in prisons, but twat is an English term?

So my question is, what is a "twat"?

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Re: [CTRL] Reply to NSA The Diana Forum

2000-09-08 Thread William Shannon

In a message dated 9/8/00 7:16:07 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 So my question is, what is a "twat"? 


It's like a "quill"!

Bill.

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Re: [CTRL] Reply to NSA The Diana Forum

2000-09-08 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld

From: "Aleisha Saba" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 So my question is, what is a "twat"?

Just look in the mirror, you'll see the answer...


June

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Re: [CTRL] Reply to NSA The Diana Forum

2000-09-08 Thread Aleisha Saba

Boy that June with a vocabulary like that, she must have done some hard
time somewhere.

Such language.

Saba

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[CTRL] Reply to NSA The Diana Forum

2000-09-07 Thread Birds

Diana was more than a silly twat.  She was killed because she represented good and was 
messing around with The Land mines projects
and they were losing money and the Princess did not want Diana to marry D.  Murder one.

Birds
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- Original Message -
From: NSA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 8:52 PM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] The Diana Forum


 Aleisha - dotty Diana died because she was a silly twat and reckless and
 risque with not only her own life but with those in her company on the night
 of her death.

 As to the Bible, it is NOT a pile of esoteric mumjo jumbo that some would
 have it be with nonsensical codes and so forth.

 The bulk of its prophecies and sayings are clear to average reader. Some
 sections, like Revelation, were written using symbols in order to protect
 its messege and hearers from the vicious persectution of Christians by the
 Roman State, and certain of the fanatical Jewish priests.

 Most of the other prophecies are discerned if the authentic reader wishes to
 dig into them and learn. The book of Daniel for instance, predicted not only
 the demise of the most powerful and ruling kingdom of the day, that was
 invisaged
 would rule forver, ie Babylon, but also forcast the rise of susequent
 kingdoms,
 even naming them prior to their rise, ie Medo Persia and Grecia.

 Christ also predicted the destruction of Jerusalem, and in this, he also
 dualy described what the "end of the world" would be like.

 In fact there are scores of bible prohecies which were fulfilled. The
 purpose of biblical prohecy is not make wo/men tin prophets, but to uplift
 God in every prohpecy.

 Here's a few sites on biblical prophecy: as always "Caveat Lector" and check
 out things for yourself!

 http://www.historicist.com/

 http://www.tagnet.org/anotherviewpoint/Daniel/

 http://home.i-plus.net/thorpe/trib/SITES.HTM

 http://home.integrityonline.com/bereanbeacon/roots.htm

 Rule of thumb - stray not too close to the more sensationalistic nonsense!

 Along with with true prohpecy, there are of course "FASLE PROPHETS" and
 charltans.  Jesus Christ also warned of these, and that there would be many
 of such - our times testify to his prediction.

 BTW - I am casually curious on your take of false "profitess" Dixon - have
 you something substantive that has linked her to the CIA as you have
 suggested?  As far as i recall, having looked at her a long time ago - she
 appeared to be an agent of the Vatican, then again the Vatican/Nazi/CIA
 cabal has been around for a while?




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 From: "Aleisha Saba" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 6:05 PM
 Subject: Re: [CTRL] The Diana Forum


  This is interesting item; however, the bible code is a clue to the
  murder of the little Princess.
 
  First, someone had their hooks into the Princes of Wales - she was under
  the influence of drugs and he IQ was that of the kindergarten kids sh
  taught - but she was pretty and what a princess should be, I guess.
 
  So those familiar with this bible code for there is one on this list who
  is - first Diana was a Lady in Waiting...a Prince usually chooses from
  his ladies in waiting, and even little Snow Whitei was a real princess
  waiting for Prince CHARMING.or Charlels, and he is short, for a
  would be King.
 
  So this is the Immanual Conspiracy;  the marriage of the Princess of
  Wales to the son o an Egyptian.Isaiah 7 tells part of the story for
  the store line is, the Princess WAS pregnant..add that to Acts 19
  and this thing is fascinating.
 
  Now her former mother in law, the Qeen, would no have sent out the
  killers - but a guy like Tony Blair ould in cahoots with Clinton - I saw
  teir faces as JFK Jr. was obviously repelled by their mere smiles like
  Cheshire Cats..both ae dead now, the little Princess and the young
  Prince.but JFK Jr. had no weakness and once even refushed an
  honorary doctorate because he said "I have done nothing to earan
  it".both the Princess and JFK, Jr. were ready to make their major
  move in life.
 
  Legends wil go forever about Diana, whom they said the Queen despised -
  and that is not true.
  They would have put the little Princess in the Sunnyside Farm where Jack
  the Ripper was sent, for you do not mess around with Mother of all Kings
  for England..
 
  The little Princess' psychic, the one she visited was on the air
  recently - she looked like a prostitute and had the nose and face of
  Jean Dixon..Acts 16 is the sign of the gainsaying woman, seller of
  purplemany demons..this woman is nothing more than a spy, but
  whose spy is she?   Like Jean Dixon, she was a gypsy, not a Roman
  Catholic as she claimed = for she used a King James Bible - the hated
  King James Bible that most good catholics shun.
 
  Key to little princess murder is the Immanual Prophecy..timed, land
  of milk and 

Re: [CTRL] Reply to NSA The Diana Forum

2000-09-07 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld

From: "Birds" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Diana was more than a silly twat.  She was killed because
 she represented good and was messing around with The Land
 mines projects and they were losing money and the Princess
 did not want Diana to marry D.  Murder one.

Diana was not only a silly twat, but a mindless playgirl who was more interested in 
having her nails done and
partying with friends at the trendiest disco than in any weighty, political or 
philosophical matters.

What she WAS savvy at was knowing a good photo op, a knack that she utilized not only 
to keep herself in the
public eye but to paint herself as a humanitarian.  That way she got herself nominated 
to boards of various
charitable groups, groups that paid for her to be sent all over the world on photo ops 
that would benefit that
specific charity.  But she never, ever, spent any time actually WORKING for any of 
these organizations on a
day-to-day basis.

She herself described her vacuous, meaningless life a year before her death, where in 
a news article she
described her typical day as going to a gym in the morning, having lunch at a trendy 
restaurant with friends
at midday, having her nails or hair done in the afternoon, and then spending the 
evening at some trendy disco
with friends.  Sometimes the routine varied, and she got her nails or hair done in the 
morning and went to the
gym in the afternoon.

This was her TYPICAL day, as she herself described it.  No mention of any meaningful 
WORK.  No mention of even
DESIRING anything meaningful to do to fill her days.


June

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Re: [CTRL] Reply to NSA The Diana Forum

2000-09-07 Thread NSA

From: "Birds" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Diana was more than a silly twat.  She was killed because
 she represented good and was messing around with The Land
 mines projects and they were losing money and the Princess
 did not want Diana to marry D.  Murder one.


Frankly "Birds" I think you are either nuts or a mindless sycophant of
garrulous media hype.

There are numerous people involved in the Land Mines issue who have
contributed real progress and substance, of which Diana did little of, who
are far easier targets for your apparent assassination conspiracy theory,
who are alive and contributing to the work, just "average Joes," going about
their work with real conviction, and not hype-driven Dianaesque tabloid
photoshoots.

The woman was a shameful waste of life. Her death indeed was tragic and no
one is denying that. But she was a suicidal minx, a Royal "fille de joie,"
and essentially suffered the consequences of her risqué on the night of her
excess with drunk-at-the-wheel tragedy.

Perhaps she was not prepared for her life as a Royal, and one can feel
empathy for her apparent misery in such a life. On the other hand, as far as
I know, nobody put a noose around her neck and dragged her into the Palace
lifestyle, which she readily welcomed, and quickly became a woman devoted to
the pursuit of pleasure, a woman of easy virtue, addicted to media glory and
self-aggrandisement.

Her name is now invoked by a seemingly wide menagerie of united loonies from
certain supposed British Anarchists, even Neo-Nazi wannabes, and the Fascist
Far Right, who cover their activities with wordy "spiritual" nuances of
which "goddess" Diana, "the huntress," is used as a moniker of sorts for
their in desguise politico rants. Generally, her persona is now used to
attack the British Monarchy, and the Establishment - but form where I'm
standing, such a tactic of itself is a reflection of these groups' innate
shallowness and half-witted pursuits. You sound like you've swallowed their
idiot hype Birds?

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