Re: [CTRL] Santa Claus not christian
-Caveat Lector- On Mon, 15 Nov 1999, Tatman, Robert wrote: Actually, Thomas Nast, the great political cartoonist, created the familiar fat, jolly Santa Claus in his red suit trimmed with ermine. Based loosely on " 'Twas The Night Before Christmas" Santa Claus But Nast's Santa was still a 'jolly old elf', e.g. only a few feet high. It was Coca Cola's ad campaign that turned him into adult size... June ;-) *===* If we listened to our intellect, we'd never have a love affair. We'd never have a friendship. We'd never go into business, because we'd be cynical. Well, that's nonsense. You've got to jump off cliffs all the time and build your wings on the way down. ---Ray Bradbury *===* *---* revcoal AT connix DOT com *---* It is UNLAWFUL to send unsolicited commercial email to this email address per United States Code Title 47 Sec. 227. I assess a fee of $500.00 US currency for reading and deleting such unsolicited commercial email. Sending such email to this address denotes acceptance of these terms. My posting messages to Usenet neither grants consent to receive unsolicited commercial email nor is intended to solicit commercial email. ** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Santa Claus not christian
-Caveat Lector- Tribunal dismisses parent's Santa discrimination claim from The Excite Australia Channels www.excite.com.au November 12th 1999 2: 52 PM AEST November 12 A Jewish man who refused to let his children associate with Santa Claus at school has lost his discrimination case against the New South Wales Education Department. A Sydney tribunal has found that Santa Claus is not a symbol of Christianity. Identified only as Mr A, the Jewish man objected to Santa's presence at the Sydney primary school. In his racial discrimination complaint against the department, Mr A said Santa is a Christian figure and he did not want his children singing Christmas carols or receiving lollies from Santa. However, the Dean of Saint Mary's Cathedral, the Reverend Anthony Doherty, told the Administrative Decisions Tribunal Santa Claus is a delightful story but has nothing to do with Christianity. In dismissing the complaint that the school discriminated against the children because of its Christmas activities, the tribunal ruled that it cannot be said that a detriment has been suffered simply because diverse groups should find ways of coexisting with each other. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Santa Claus not christian
-Caveat Lector- The other night, very late, I saw this very fascinating documentary on soda pop. It focused mainly on Coke and Pepsi. It talked about how Coca Cola created the Santa Claus we see today - the fat, happy man in red and white. Before he had been dressed in green and a was dour looking character. Coke changed him to go with their colors and to associate themselves with Christmas. Anyway, I thought it was interesting. - Original Message - From: Taylor, John (JH) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 14, 1999 12:42 PM Subject: [CTRL] Santa Claus not christian : -Caveat Lector- : : Tribunal dismisses parent's Santa discrimination claim : : from The Excite Australia Channels : www.excite.com.au : November 12th 1999 : 2: 52 PM AEST November 12 : : A Jewish man who refused to let his children associate with Santa Claus : at school has lost his discrimination case against the New South Wales : Education Department. : : A Sydney tribunal has found that Santa Claus is not a symbol of : Christianity. : : Identified only as Mr A, the Jewish man objected to Santa's presence at : the Sydney primary school. : : In his racial discrimination complaint against the department, Mr A said : Santa is a Christian figure and he did not want his children singing : Christmas carols or receiving lollies from Santa. : : However, the Dean of Saint Mary's Cathedral, the Reverend Anthony Doherty, : told the Administrative Decisions Tribunal Santa Claus is a delightful : story but has nothing to do with Christianity. : : In dismissing the complaint that the school discriminated against the : children because of its Christmas activities, the tribunal ruled that : it cannot be said that a detriment has been suffered simply because : diverse groups should find ways of coexisting with each other. : : DECLARATION DISCLAIMER : == : CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic : screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters : and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright : frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects : spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL : gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; : be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and : nazi's need not apply. : : Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. : : Archives Available at: : http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html : : http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ : : To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: : SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] : : To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: : SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] : : Om : DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Santa Claus not christian
Christmas was illegal in this country when it was founded. When the Catholic immigration occurred there was pressure to celebrate it. I think it was l858 that Massachusetts said it was not illegal to celebrate Christmas. Certainly one can't find Christmas in the Bible, no matter what/when its origins. - Original Message - From: Maggie To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 14, 1999 4:24 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Santa Claus not christian -Caveat Lector-The other night, very late, I saw this very fascinating documentary on sodapop. It focused mainly on Coke and Pepsi. It talked about how Coca Colacreated the Santa Claus we see today - the fat, happy man in red and white.Before he had been dressed in green and a was dour looking character. Cokechanged him to go with their colors and to associate themselves withChristmas. Anyway, I thought it was interesting.- Original Message -From: Taylor, John (JH) [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Sunday, November 14, 1999 12:42 PMSubject: [CTRL] Santa Claus not christian: -Caveat Lector-:: Tribunal dismisses parent's Santa discrimination claim:: from The Excite Australia Channels: www.excite.com.au: November 12th 1999: 2: 52 PM AEST November 12:: A Jewish man who refused to let his children associate with Santa Claus: at school has lost his discrimination case against the New South Wales: Education Department.:: A Sydney tribunal has found that Santa Claus is not a symbol of: Christianity.:: Identified only as Mr A, the Jewish man objected to Santa's presence at: the Sydney primary school.:: In his racial discrimination complaint against the department, Mr A said: Santa is a Christian figure and he did not want his children singing: Christmas carols or receiving lollies from Santa.:: However, the Dean of Saint Mary's Cathedral, the Reverend Anthony Doherty,: told the Administrative Decisions Tribunal Santa Claus is a delightful: story but has nothing to do with Christianity.:: In dismissing the complaint that the school discriminated against the: children because of its Christmas activities, the tribunal ruled that: it cannot be said that a detriment has been suffered simply because: diverse groups should find ways of coexisting with each other.:: DECLARATION DISCLAIMER: ==: CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyztingpropagandic: screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordidmatters: and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections andoutright: frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minoreffects: spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL: gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests toreaders;: be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and: nazi's need not apply.:: Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector.: : Archives Available at:: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html:: http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/: : To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email:: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:: To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email:: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:: Om:DECLARATION DISCLAIMER==CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandicscreeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid mattersand 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outrightfrauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effectsspread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers;be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial andnazi's need not apply.Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector.Archives Available at:http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.htmlhttp:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email:SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED]To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email:SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED]Om
