Re: [CTRL] Secret Report from early 80's: evidence that Coke/Pepsi were aware of aspartame dangers

2000-03-01 Thread Foxter



I was a kid right out of 
grad school. I didn't really get to mix with anybody of thetype you 
mention. I was not astute enough to play the game, I virtually got fired 
after less than a year. As for their techniques, I am not aware of the 
books or studies you allude to but I would suspect there are scads and scads of 
them in various educational annals of experimental psychology, both neurological 
and sociological varieties. I was not aware that they purposely crafted an 
ad to contain subliminal messages. I wonder if this technology is utilized 
more in the military than business realms. 


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  early 80's: evidence that Coke/Pepsi were aware of aspartame dangers
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  worked for J. Walter Thompson Company (advertising) in the mid-70's 
  andaspartame was even then known to be 
  damaging.What did ya get to do for the admen? I 
  hear that there are books aboutadvertising techniques that are privately 
  printed and are tightly held by theadvertising business. Do you know 
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Re: [CTRL] Secret Report from early 80's: evidence that Coke/Pepsi were aware of aspartame dangers

2000-02-29 Thread Foxter



I worked for J. Walter 
Thompson Company (advertising) in the mid-70's and aspartame was even then known 
to be damaging.


  - Original Message - 
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  Subject: [CTRL] Secret Report from early 
  80's: evidence that Coke/Pepsi were aware of aspartame dangers
  -Caveat Lector- A 
  HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"/A -Cui Bono?-With malice 
  aforethought...Dave Hartleyhttp://www.asheville-computer.com/davehttp://www.the-times.co.uk/news/pages/sti/2000/02/27/stinwenws03032.html?999Top 
  sweetener condemned by secret reportJonathan Leake, Science 
  EditorBRITAIN'S bestselling sweetener was condemned as 
  dangerous and potentiallytoxic in a report compiled by some of the world's 
  biggest soft drinksmanufacturers - who now buy tons of it to add to diet 
  drinks.Coca-Cola, Pepsi and other manufacturers produced the report in the 
  early1980s before the sweetener, aspartame, had been approved for use in 
  America.It warns that it can affect the workings of the brain, change 
  behaviour andeven en-courage users to eat extra carbohydrate, so 
  destroying the point ofusing diet drinks.The documents were 
  un-earthed last week under freedom of informationlegislation. It follows a 
  decision by re-searchers at King's College inLondon to study suspected 
  links between aspartame intake and brain tumours.Britons drink more 
  than 9 billion cans or bottles of pop a year, of whichabout half contain 
  artificial sweeteners. Aspartame, made by Monsanto andalso marketed under 
  the name NutraSweet, is 200 times sweeter than normalsugar and is used in 
  many popular low-calorie foods and drinks. It has beendeclared safe in a 
  number of studies and has been approved for use in bothAmerica and 
  Europe.There has, however, always been concern at its tendency to 
  break down,producing methanol, which is both toxic in its own right and 
  which breaksdown further to produce formic acid and formaldehyde. 
  Phenylalanine, anotherbreakdown product of aspartame, is also dangerous to 
  people withphenylketonuria, a common enzyme deficiency.The 30-page 
  aspartame report was drawn up under the auspices of America'sNational Soft 
  Drinks Association (NSDA), whose governing body at the timeincluded senior 
  Coca-Cola and Pepsi executives. It says: "We object to theapproval of 
  aspartame for unrestricted use in soft drinks." It then listsways in which 
  aspartame was believed directly to affect brain chemistry,including the 
  synthesis of vital neurotransmitters such as serotonin.Other papers 
  obtained with the NSDA documents show the Food and DrugAdministration also 
  had misgivings. Despite this, it approved aspartame.Dick Adamson, of 
  the NSDA, said that, in l983, it evaluated the data onaspartame and posed 
  a number of questions. Once they were answered, it nolonger had concerns 
  about the safety of aspartame in carbonated drinks.Ben Deutsch, a 
  spokesman for Coca-Cola, referred questions to the NSDA.A 
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Re: [CTRL] Secret Report from early 80's: evidence that Coke/Pepsi were aware of aspartame dangers

2000-02-29 Thread Kris Millegan

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In a message dated 2/29/00 12:23:11 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I worked for J. Walter Thompson Company (advertising) in the mid-70's and
aspartame was even then known to be damaging.



 What did ya get to do for the admen? I hear that there are books about
advertising techniques that are privately printed and are tightly held by the
advertising business. Do you know anything about that?
Om
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[CTRL] Secret Report from early 80's: evidence that Coke/Pepsi were aware of aspartame dangers

2000-02-28 Thread Dave

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With malice aforethought...


Dave Hartley
http://www.asheville-computer.com/dave



http://www.the-times.co.uk/news/pages/sti/2000/02/27/stinwenws03032.html?999

Top sweetener condemned by secret report
Jonathan Leake, Science Editor



BRITAIN'S bestselling sweetener was condemned as dangerous and potentially
toxic in a report compiled by some of the world's biggest soft drinks
manufacturers - who now buy tons of it to add to diet drinks.
Coca-Cola, Pepsi and other manufacturers produced the report in the early
1980s before the sweetener, aspartame, had been approved for use in America.
It warns that it can affect the workings of the brain, change behaviour and
even en-courage users to eat extra carbohydrate, so destroying the point of
using diet drinks.

The documents were un-earthed last week under freedom of information
legislation. It follows a decision by re-searchers at King's College in
London to study suspected links between aspartame intake and brain tumours.

Britons drink more than 9 billion cans or bottles of pop a year, of which
about half contain artificial sweeteners. Aspartame, made by Monsanto and
also marketed under the name NutraSweet, is 200 times sweeter than normal
sugar and is used in many popular low-calorie foods and drinks. It has been
declared safe in a number of studies and has been approved for use in both
America and Europe.

There has, however, always been concern at its tendency to break down,
producing methanol, which is both toxic in its own right and which breaks
down further to produce formic acid and formaldehyde. Phenylalanine, another
breakdown product of aspartame, is also dangerous to people with
phenylketonuria, a common enzyme deficiency.

The 30-page aspartame report was drawn up under the auspices of America's
National Soft Drinks Association (NSDA), whose governing body at the time
included senior Coca-Cola and Pepsi executives. It says: "We object to the
approval of aspartame for unrestricted use in soft drinks." It then lists
ways in which aspartame was believed directly to affect brain chemistry,
including the synthesis of vital neurotransmitters such as serotonin.

Other papers obtained with the NSDA documents show the Food and Drug
Administration also had misgivings. Despite this, it approved aspartame.

Dick Adamson, of the NSDA, said that, in l983, it evaluated the data on
aspartame and posed a number of questions. Once they were answered, it no
longer had concerns about the safety of aspartame in carbonated drinks.

Ben Deutsch, a spokesman for Coca-Cola, referred questions to the NSDA.

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