[CTRL] Solar explosion - Did NASA erase its track

1999-06-12 Thread Steve Wingate

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Subject: Solar explosion - Did NASA erase its tracks?


VANCOUVER - This article by Mitch Battros suggests that NASA may have
intentionally suppressed data of the coronal mass ejection (CME) on June
1. That solar explosion was not made public until June 7, in a surprise
report by the BBC.  If NASA did in fact suppress public data of the June 1
solar explosion, the relevance to the Cassini spacecraft mission may be
quite ominous.

The June 1 solar explosion provides a substantial, justified scientific
reason why the Cassini mission must be re-directed!

This Cassini implications of this solar explosion must be presented to
international bodies and governments, and made public, immediately.
NASA
may have in fact covered up the June 1 solar explosion precisely because
it know that increased Cassini risks evidenced by such an explosion would
force the re-direction of the Cassini spacecraft.

If a similar solar explosion were to occur after the June 24 Venus flyby,
the results could be catastrophic for Earth. A olar explosion then could
disable Cassini's communication equipment, and turn th Cassini spacecraft
into a virtual plutonium bomb headed straight for Earth.

This is not an exaggeration.  It is the probable scientific consequence of
another solar explosion.  That is precisely why NASA may have covered up
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in unprecedented fashion - public knowledge of the June 1 solar explosion.
PLEASE UNDERSTAND THERE MAY BE DEEP OFFICIAL MALICE
INVOLVED HERE.

We urge you to bring this new knowledge forward to international and US
channels to stop what is emerging as a travesty in the exploration of
outer space, and in the integrity of NASA's obligations to fully report
relevant scientific space information.

Geri DeStefano, PhD
Alfred Lambremont Webre, JD
Vancouver, BC


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Did NASA Erase It's Tracks Over Solar Explosion?...06/10/99
by Mitch Battros (ECTV)

This could be one of the largest cover ups from NASA we have seen in a
long time, or, it could be nothing at all.

One of our viewers sent in an email stating she noticed NASA had omitted,
or erased, JUNE 1ST data on the link below. This just happens to be the
date of the C.M.E. (coronal mass ejection). Also take note, it was the BBC
(British Broadcasting Corporation) that broke the story. Nothing from our
own national networks.

I would like your help in this investigation. If you know of a web site,or
perhaps someone working for NASA that can explain the reason for the
omission of this date, please forward. Also, send information as to why
NASA did not disclose this information to the public at, or before, the
time of this event.

Is it NASA's policy to NOT disclose potentially deadly, or at least
severely disruptive events?   It is not only solar flares were we have
seen this omission before. It has also occurred with NEO's (near earth
orbits) related to Asteroids.

Sharon B. wrote:
Check out the following web site which is Nasa's 10 day animation of the
sun. Notice that June 1 (CME) has been omitted from the animation. You
will have to slow down the animation to 2 images per second to see that
they skip from May 31 to June 2.

http://www.spaceweather.com/java/solar-anim.html


Remember, this could be nothing at all. It is possible, NASA was simply
taking the day off. After all, it was Memorial Day.

Mitch Battros
Producer - Earth Changes TV
Web Site:
http://www.earthchangesTV.com


Steve Wingate

California Director
SKYWATCH INTERNATIONAL

Anomalous Images and UFO Files
http://www.anomalous-images.com

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Re: [CTRL] Solar explosion - Did NASA erase its track

1999-06-12 Thread DIG alfred webre

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  (This is for those of us who are 'disturbed'. The 'undisturbed' people
can
  filter it out and continue watching tv. --SW)
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 Cute, Steve, but frankly we're surprised at your cheap shot.  See EcoNews
Service response to SOHO, posted on IUFO on separate post.  No satisfactory
answer had yet emerged for the 7 day (June 1 to 7) delay in public reporting
of the CME solar explosion.  BBC was the first to report it, not US media,
which are usually space-oriented.  The entity with the most to gain in
 any suppression of the June 1 solar event is in fact NASA, as a solar
explosion of this magnitude would rasie reasonable doubts as to the wisdom of
continuing the Cassini Earth flyby after its June 24 Venus flyby.

 Certainly SOHO provided us no satisfactory answers
 to these issues when they wrote us, and the fellow that wrote us was
directly involved in initial monitoring of the June 1 CME (see correspondence
in SOHO post).

 Our experience is that manipulation of the media on space issues does occur
in the United States in particular, and we stand by our story.  Thankfully, a
growing number of US media outlets are contacting us for details.  But your
uncharacteristic reaction does not help ferret out the truth.

 Geri DeStefano, PhD
 Alfred Lambremont Webre, JD, MEd
 Vancouver, BC


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Re: [CTRL] Solar explosion - Did NASA erase its track

1999-06-12 Thread DIG alfred webre

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Response to Craig DeForest (SOHO) response to EcoNews Service CME coverage,
June 12, 1999:

Dear Craig - Thank you deeply for your e-mail.  We appreciate your
first-hand knowledge of the CME event, and your willingness to share the
events you witnessed, not to mention your personal honesty and integrity.  We
will forward it to Mitch Battros, to set the record straight.

The continuing risk for Cassini remains, however, and you yourself summed up
some of the unknowables:

 Because I don't design spacecraft for a living, I don't know how
 vulnerable Cassini might be to a coronal mass ejection from the Sun.
 I do know that deep-space probes are carefully designed with just that
 type of disturbance in mind.  SOHO, which is outside the Earth's
 protective magnetic field, has weathered countless such events without a
 hitch, as have the Voyager probes from the 1970s, the recent Venus orbiter
 that mapped the surface of that planet, and innumerable other bits of NASA
 hardware flying around the solar system.


The concerns for the Cassini flyby after its June 24 Venus flyby are multiple
and remain, especially during the period of high solar event risk through
January 2001.  Our understanding is that more advanced, safer solar power
packs were available in the design
phase, and were overruled in favour of the plutonium RTG's, for reasons which
remain obscure, and which are not justified by the environmental risks
involved.

Moreover, you may not be aware that the Cassini Earth flyby (Aug. 18) is
scheduled just a week after the Aug. 11 Solar Eclipse, the last of this
century.  This timing adds immeasurably to Cassini's
risk. We urge you to study the material at:

http://www.globalpsychics.com/lp/Prophecy/grand_cross.htm

Please feel free to share this material with the more open of your
colleagues;both the article by Antaro Alli and by EcoNews. We would welcome
your comments, especially of the alternative perspectives.  Science does not
occur is a social vacuum, but is part of our larger civilization.

Some of these considerations were raised in yesterday's Stop Cassini
Demonstration at NASA headquarters (below).  On reflection, we beleive you
will begin to understand the depth of feeling on the Cassini issue, not to
mention the strangeness of the press and information embargo in the United
States. Rarely in our experience have we experienced an embargo like this
one. Something is not right here, on mature reflection.

Please feel free to contact us at any time, Craig.  Your input is very
valuable, and unique, and most welcome.

Geri DeStefano PhD
Alfred Lambremont Webre, JD, MEd

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Hiroshima-Nagasaki Commemoration Committee, 4806 York Road,
Baltimore, MD
21212
Ph: 410-323-7200 or 410-377-7987 Fax: 410-323-7292
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

June 11, 1999

ACTIVISTS DELIVER CANCEL CASSINI FLYBY LETTER TO
NASA HEADQUARTERS

Baltimore's Hiroshima-Nagasaki Commemoration Committee
organized a demonstration outside NASA headquarters in
Washington, D.C. on Friday, June 11, 1999 from 12 noon to 1 PM.
Eight anti-plutonium demonstrators marched with signs among the
lunchtime crowd.  The signs said, "Cassini Spells Disaster," "No
Nukes in Space," "Stop Cassini Flyby," "No Weapons in Space"
and "Maryland Safe Energy Coalition." Photographs of the
demonstration were taken and are to be made available to the
Global Network Against Weapons and Nuclear Power in Space.

At 1:15 PM, four of the activists entered the building to deliver a
letter addressed to NASA director Dan Goldin.  A security
representative informed the delegation that Mr.. Goldin was in
Paris, but that the letter would be delivered.  A copy of the letter
appears below.

Hiroshima-Nagasaki Commemoration Committee, 4806 York Road,
Baltimore, MD
21212 Ph: 410-323-7200 Fax: 410-323-7292
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

June 11, 1999

We are here today to urge you to cancel the flyby of the Cassini
space probe, carrying 72 pounds of plutonium, as the dangers of
radioactive contamination outweigh the benefits.  In fact, you
should abandon the use of radioactive material, ban all space-
based weaponry and cut all ties with the military.

Of course, you know accidents do happen in the space program.
Most recently, rockets failed to lift into proper orbits a "missile-
warning" satellite in April and an $800 million satellite in May.  Last
August, a similar rocket carrying a spy satellite blew up shortly
after liftoff. These three failures cost taxpayers $3 billion. Adding
plutonium to the potential accident mix is terrifying.

Failure to cancel the flyby means Cassini is scheduled to threaten
Earth on Aug. 17, 1999. In the event of a miscalculation, electrical
failure, an impact from space debris or a solar storm, NASA could
lose control of the probe so that it may collide with Earth's
atmosphere. The probe could burn up like a meteorite and release
a breathable form of plutonium dioxide.

NASA has scheduled a series of space missions 

Re: [CTRL] Solar explosion - Did NASA erase its track

1999-06-12 Thread DIG alfred webre

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Steve is a tremendously valuable and hard working member of our Internet
community...we mean it!  Geri  Alfred

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 Hey, I was in no way making fun of your post. Please understand, I was
 referring to an earlier post from someone I will not name who stated
 that  those who uncovered disturbing things were disturbed individuals.
 
   Regards,
   Steve

 Steve - We are truly glad we're all on the side of the Angels!  Keep up the
  good work, Geri  Alfred ;-)

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