Re: [CTRL] Black Ark of the Covenant

2003-03-23 Thread John Miller
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Some more religious number crunching.

The Black Ark of the Covenant Conspiracy

I was reading an extract from the `Lost Secrets Of The Sacred
Ark' by Laurence Gardner, who writes about the sacred gold powder and the
power of the Ark of the Covenant.

The Book of Exodus chapter 28:33-35 tells us that the High Priest had
to wear robes which had both symbols of the Pomegranate fruit and
golden bells attached to the hem of the material.

What is especially interesting about the Pomegranate tree is that its
wood is the most dense in the world at 84.2 pounds per cubic foot,
compared to English Oak at 58 pounds and African Teak at 61 pounds
per cubic foot.

The Bible gives only one volume measurement for the Ark of the
Covenant at 5.625 Hebrew cubic cubits, some 29.293334 cubic feet. And
I feel that this is only the internal volume, and to ascertain the
full volume I have used about the ratio of the full volume of the
granite sarcophagus in the King's Chamber of the Great Pyramid
compared to its internal volume. Thus a full volume for the Ark of
the Covenant at some 11.1288 Hebrew cubic cubits, and so a frame
volume of 5.50382 Hebrew cubic cubits, some 28.66226 cubic feet.

And the frame's volume at 5.50382 cubic cubits and squared thrice
is 842,004.647 and so related to the Pomegranate tree, and if I
continue to square thrice more x 10 the square root twice is
1.2607500e+12.

And 12,607.5 days is 34.5181 years, the life of Jesus Christ from
birth at 2:30am October 1st 6BC until 3am Omer Day, that is Passover
Day, on the Sabbath of Saturday, April 8th AD30 and precisely 12
hours after death on the Cross. And 12 hours after death the soul of
Jesus Christ was preaching in prison to others who were dead.

Thus the symbol of the Pomegranate fruit on the High Priest's hem
of his robe, not only represents the frame of the Ark of the
Covenant, but the Son of Man.

In that from the circumcision of the Jewish Jesus Christ was on the
eighth day after birth and so 12,600 days until 3am Omer Day AD30.

The Bible says that 1,260 days is `time, times and half a time'.

OK, now the Ark of the Covenant was certainly not made of Pomegranate
wood, but Acacia wood, at about 51.1 pounds per cubic foot, so the
wooden frame of the Ark of the Covenant weighed 1,464 pounds, that is
24 times the Falcon with the reference number 61. Whereas
Christ's own reference number is 9333 that is one tithe less than
1037 which is 17 times 61, a difference of 7 Falcons x 61 at 427,
(and as feet the length of the finest Gothic cathedral, namely
Chartres Cathedral, the church of the Virgin Mary.

So the weight of the frame of the Ark of the Covenant show tremendous
power, that of the Heavenly number 24 x the Falcon, the merciless
killer of the sky, a frame that is `formed' by measure, from
that of the Pomegranate wood, the Son of Man.

And the `Golden Bell's' sewn to the hem of the High
Priest's robe and the gold color represents the Sun at 865,000
miles in diameter and the bell symbolizes `sound' at 1087 feet per
second, increased to 10,870,000 + 865,000 + 865,000 is the Son of Man at
12,600,000.

So the 12,607.50 days for the Son of Man and related to non Jews,
whereas 12,600 days is related to the Son of Man for the Jewish people.

And the Pomegranate at 84.2 pounds per cubic foot at 842,000 x 4 +
the Sun at 865,000 miles is the Ancient of Days at 4,233,000.

So to the Black Ark of the Covenant, the `Merciless Throne'
of the Prince of Darkness.

It was Pentecost, at 9am Sunday morning May 28th AD30 that Church
began with the disciple Peter preaching to the Jews of visiting
Jerusalem. And so 1,924 years + one day, to the first Bilderberg Group
meeting in Holland.

And 1,924 x 100 is Darkness, the `Black Trinity' at 177 x sound at 1087.0056
feet per
second, thus 1924 is the reference for the `Sound of Darkness'.

Bilderberg Group, the world's most secret society?

Bilderberg, reputedly the most secretive organization in the world,
comprising presidents, royal families, ministers, top industrialists
and financial leaders.

The Bilderberg delegates, comprising some of the world's most
powerful decision makers discuss highly classified issues which are
not supposed to be disclosed to the public by the press before or
after the meeting.

The principal feature of Bilderberg is that it seeks `One Global
Government'.

Bilderberg takes its name from the Bilderberg Hotel in Oosterbeek,
Holland where the first meeting took place May 29th  31st of 1954.

This elite group usually consists of 115 members but can go to 120 of
the most powerful men and women on Earth. Eight are supposedly from
Western Europe and the remainder from North America. And one third
are from government and politics, and the remaining two thirds from
industry, finance, education, and communications.

And the Son of Man's reference number for non Jews at 1,260,750 x
1,260,750 and squared twice x 126.0750 x 7/8 and square root twice
and cube root once, is 17,270.532 days, 

[CTRL] the ark of the covenant against the nwo

2001-11-14 Thread Staffan Enbom

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Greetings,


I would be greatful if you could help in spreading this message below (and
by mailing the minister). It would greatly assist in the battle against
evil.

The Ark of The Covenant is at the Hill of  Torah - Tara in County Meath,
Ireland and my good friend JAH needs people to please contact the Irish
Minister for Heritage, who is called Sile (pronounced Sheila) de Valera
minister in support of his application for a license to dig, which is
ministry application ref. Rep: 525/98. She has the authority to be able
togrant him the license, without which he cannot dig a small area of flat
grass, measuring 2m x 2m, at Tara.

By recovering The Ark and showing people it is not a myth or a fairy story
and showing the people God's Law and how fair and just it is for everyone,
rather than like men's laws that favour only the rich. That is why the rich
people made up their laws, in defiance of God, in the first place and now
want to disarm everyone, also in defiance of God, so the sheeple will be
unable to resist being driven further into slavery by Satan's NWO. Gods law,
the only law EVER LEGAL on this planet prohibits all human legislation,
which includes anti-gun legislation as well.


This needs maximum effort and maximum publicity, world-wide. Remember that
the controlled media will probably give us the silent treatment, so we need
to use the net and local papers and radio and every avenue that is not
blocked or that can be unblocked.


Please do everything you can to persuade everyone you can to get involved in
this crucial effort, in the world's most desperate hour.

To make it easier for you to be able to do your bit, for everyone's benefit,
we have compiled a letter that you can download, add your name and address
to, print-out and send to Minister de Valera.

at the bottom of the page:
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/request.htm

The minister's address is:-

Sile de Valera,
Ministry for Heritage,
43-49, Mespil Road,
Dublin 4, Ireland.

Tel. 353 1 667 0788
Fax. 353 1 667 0825
GTN 7111.


Thank you,

Staffan Enbom

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/

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Re: [CTRL] the ark of the covenant against the nwo

2001-11-14 Thread Joe Gillaspie

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 FYI

 Greetings,

 I would be greatful if you could help in spreading this message below (and
 by mailing the minister). It would greatly assist in the battle against
 evil.

 The Ark of The Covenant is at the Hill of  Torah - Tara in County Meath,
 Ireland and my good friend JAH needs people to please contact the Irish
 Minister for Heritage, who is called Sile (pronounced Sheila) de Valera
 minister in support of his application for a license to dig, which is
 ministry application ref. Rep: 525/98. She has the authority to be able
 togrant him the license, without which he cannot dig a small area of flat
 grass, measuring 2m x 2m, at Tara.

 By recovering The Ark and showing people it is not a myth or a fairy story
 and showing the people God's Law and how fair and just it is for everyone,
 rather than like men's laws that favour only the rich. That is why the rich
 people made up their laws, in defiance of God, in the first place and now
 want to disarm everyone, also in defiance of God, so the sheeple will be
 unable to resist being driven further into slavery by Satan's NWO. Gods law,
 the only law EVER LEGAL on this planet prohibits all human legislation,
 which includes anti-gun legislation as well.

 This needs maximum effort and maximum publicity, world-wide. Remember that
 the controlled media will probably give us the silent treatment, so we need
 to use the net and local papers and radio and every avenue that is not
 blocked or that can be unblocked.

 Please do everything you can to persuade everyone you can to get involved in
 this crucial effort, in the world's most desperate hour.

 To make it easier for you to be able to do your bit, for everyone's benefit,
 we have compiled a letter that you can download, add your name and address
 to, print-out and send to Minister de Valera.

 at the bottom of the page:
 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/request.htm

 The minister's address is:-

 Sile de Valera,
 Ministry for Heritage,
 43-49, Mespil Road,
 Dublin 4, Ireland.

 Tel. 353 1 667 0788
 Fax. 353 1 667 0825
 GTN 7111.

 Thank you,

 Staffan Enbom
 
 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/

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Re: [CTRL] the ark of the covenant against the nwo

2001-11-14 Thread thew

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can you explain why the ark would be in ireland?
-- --- -
Well, I've wrestled with reality for 35 years, doctor, and I'm happy to
state I finally won out over it



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 Subject: Re: [CTRL] the ark of the covenant against the nwo

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 FYI

 Greetings,

 I would be greatful if you could help in spreading this message below (and
 by mailing the minister). It would greatly assist in the battle against
 evil.

 The Ark of The Covenant is at the Hill of  Torah - Tara in County Meath,
 Ireland and my good friend JAH needs people to please contact the Irish
 Minister for Heritage, who is called Sile (pronounced Sheila) de Valera
 minister in support of his application for a license to dig, which is
 ministry application ref. Rep: 525/98. She has the authority to be able
 togrant him the license, without which he cannot dig a small area of flat
 grass, measuring 2m x 2m, at Tara.

 By recovering The Ark and showing people it is not a myth or a fairy story
 and showing the people God's Law and how fair and just it is for everyone,
 rather than like men's laws that favour only the rich. That is why the rich
 people made up their laws, in defiance of God, in the first place and now
 want to disarm everyone, also in defiance of God, so the sheeple will be
 unable to resist being driven further into slavery by Satan's NWO. Gods law,
 the only law EVER LEGAL on this planet prohibits all human legislation,
 which includes anti-gun legislation as well.

 This needs maximum effort and maximum publicity, world-wide. Remember that
 the controlled media will probably give us the silent treatment, so we need
 to use the net and local papers and radio and every avenue that is not
 blocked or that can be unblocked.

 Please do everything you can to persuade everyone you can to get involved in
 this crucial effort, in the world's most desperate hour.

 To make it easier for you to be able to do your bit, for everyone's benefit,
 we have compiled a letter that you can download, add your name and address
 to, print-out and send to Minister de Valera.

 at the bottom of the page:
 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/request.htm

 The minister's address is:-

 Sile de Valera,
 Ministry for Heritage,
 43-49, Mespil Road,
 Dublin 4, Ireland.

 Tel. 353 1 667 0788
 Fax. 353 1 667 0825
 GTN 7111.

 Thank you,

 Staffan Enbom
 
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Re: [CTRL] the ark of the covenant against the nwo

2001-11-14 Thread Staffan Enbom

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Subject: Re: [CTRL] the ark of the covenant against the nwo


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 can you explain why the ark would be in ireland?

You need to read trough the files below. The whole site contains alot of
symbolic metaphores that at first seem weird.  To comprehend what he is
trying to tell you one needs an open mind and to rid oneself of resentment,
arrogance and other negative emotions and stop the mind from racing and
focus.

As most of you know this world we live in is mostly insane, run by insane
people who worship the most insane person in the world who also happens to
be the inventor of lying. (all negative energy comes from him)

Peace,
Staffan


http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/jere.htm
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/socio.htm
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/paind.htm

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Re: [CTRL] the ark of the covenant against the nwo

2001-11-14 Thread thew

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we worship richard nixon?
-- -- --  -- --
Planet spins - so do I
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 can you explain why the ark would be in ireland?

 You need to read trough the files below. The whole site contains alot of
 symbolic metaphores that at first seem weird.  To comprehend what he is
 trying to tell you one needs an open mind and to rid oneself of resentment,
 arrogance and other negative emotions and stop the mind from racing and
 focus.

 As most of you know this world we live in is mostly insane, run by insane
 people who worship the most insane person in the world who also happens to
 be the inventor of lying. (all negative energy comes from him)

 Peace,
 Staffan


 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/jere.htm
 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/socio.htm
 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/paind.htm

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Re: [CTRL] The Ark of the Covenant

1999-11-23 Thread Eagle 1

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Maybe the government really did find it,  and that's what they are calling
the "HAARP"   ???
h?

eagle 1

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 I think the term Arc comes from Arktos..that is the Northern Pole
 star..Around it is the Great Bear and the little bear. Both SEven star
 system and a reflection of each other.. The  swastika is a representation
of
 this albeit an opposite.. So the ARC therefore must be at the pole to have
 full powerhehe..

 Peter

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  Uh huh...
 
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  It mattersits a way to communicate with the gods or God.
 

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Re: [CTRL] The Ark of the Covenant

1999-11-23 Thread Eagle 1

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Oh,  and I thought that the Smithsonian had it,  just like they told it in
the story of the "Raider's of the Lost Ark"...  and I thought that EVERYONE
knew that!:-)
LOL

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 Why, everyone KNOWS that the Nazis discovered the Ark of the Covenant and
 hid it in a mineshaft in Bavaria along with the Spear of Longinus and
 Hitler's foreskin. These treasures were subsequently recovered by a
special
 U.S. Army unit following the German surrender, and they are now held in a
 tightly guarded warehouse of the National Archives in Arlington,
Virginia...

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  David Rupp wrote:
  
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   Someone just sent this link to another list that I read:
   http://www.fine-art.com/Steadman/ark.txt
   It seems that the Ark has been located and it's in the hands of the
  Israeli
   government. I'm sure that most of us can rest easy now, and JAH can
find
  a
   new crusade. Good luck!
  
   David Rupp
   Get caught up in The Web of Fate at
   http://pages.whowhere.com/arts/david.rupp/home.html.
 
  I beg to differ. It is not in the hands of the Israelis. It is in
  a wooden box in a HUGE government warehouse somewhere in the USA.
 
  Joshua2 ;}

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Re: [CTRL] The Ark of the Covenant

1999-11-23 Thread YnrChyldzWyld

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On Mon, 22 Nov 1999, Eagle 1 wrote:
Oh,  and I thought that the Smithsonian had it,  just like they told it in
the story of the "Raider's of the Lost Ark"...  and I thought that EVERYONE
knew that!:-)

I thought that Raiders showed it filed away in some vast Army warehouse,
amongst hundreds of thousands other forgotten itemsthat was the last
shot in the movie...

But everyone who is 'in the know' knows that the Nazis spirited it away
to a secret base in Antartica just before the end of WWII


June ;-)

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Re: [CTRL] The Ark of the Covenant

1999-11-22 Thread C Davis

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Oh right! Indiana Jones found itI forgot

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Re: [CTRL] The Ark of the Covenant

1999-11-22 Thread C Davis

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No its not...its in my backyard holding wood for the fireplace...

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Re: [CTRL] The Ark of the Covenant

1999-11-22 Thread Tenorlove

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Hey, I have it too! My kids use it for toy storage..Did anyone else
realize the Ark was made by Little Tykes?
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Re: [CTRL] The Ark of the Covenant

1999-11-22 Thread Stopforth, Jamie

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Uh huh...

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Re: [CTRL] The Ark of the Covenant

1999-11-22 Thread Tatman, Robert

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Why, everyone KNOWS that the Nazis discovered the Ark of the Covenant and
hid it in a mineshaft in Bavaria along with the Spear of Longinus and
Hitler's foreskin. These treasures were subsequently recovered by a special
U.S. Army unit following the German surrender, and they are now held in a
tightly guarded warehouse of the National Archives in Arlington, Virginia...

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 Sent: Thursday, November 18, 1999 10:50 PM
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 Subject:  Re: [CTRL] The Ark of the Covenant

  -Caveat Lector-

 David Rupp wrote:
 
   -Caveat Lector-
 
  Someone just sent this link to another list that I read:
  http://www.fine-art.com/Steadman/ark.txt
  It seems that the Ark has been located and it's in the hands of the
 Israeli
  government. I'm sure that most of us can rest easy now, and JAH can find
 a
  new crusade. Good luck!
 
  David Rupp
  Get caught up in The Web of Fate at
  http://pages.whowhere.com/arts/david.rupp/home.html.

 I beg to differ. It is not in the hands of the Israelis. It is in
 a wooden box in a HUGE government warehouse somewhere in the USA.

 Joshua2 ;}



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Re: [CTRL] The Ark of the Covenant

1999-11-22 Thread earthman

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I think the term Arc comes from Arktos..that is the Northern Pole
star..Around it is the Great Bear and the little bear. Both SEven star
system and a reflection of each other.. The  swastika is a representation of
this albeit an opposite.. So the ARC therefore must be at the pole to have
full powerhehe..

Peter

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 Uh huh...

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Re: [CTRL] The Ark of the Covenant

1999-11-22 Thread Das GOAT

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In a message dated 99-11-22 14:42:50 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Why, everyone KNOWS that the Nazis discovered the Ark of the Covenant and
hid it in a mineshaft in Bavaria along with the Spear of Longinus and
Hitler's foreskin. These treasures were subsequently recovered by a special
U.S. Army unit following the German surrender, and they are now held in a
tightly guarded warehouse of the National Archives in Arlington, Virginia...

Yes, of course, but ...  About 1947 it was found that, after a piddling 3500
years, the Ark's BATTERIES had run down, so it was taken to the federal
government's "secret technology" repair shop, where, alongside Tesla's
earthquake generator, a Reichian negative-orgone collector, and the
mislabelled remains of the Roswell UFO, it sits to this very day, on a back
shelf gathering faintly green-glowing dust  ...

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Re: [CTRL] The Ark of the Covenant

1999-11-22 Thread C Davis

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I'm telling ya its exactly where Indiana Jones left it...

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Re: [CTRL] The Ark of the Covenant

1999-11-22 Thread nessie

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It mattersits a way to communicate with the gods or God.

If you need a box to talk to them, they aren't gods.

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Re: [CTRL] The Ark of the Covenant

1999-11-22 Thread C Davis

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Ummm...right

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Re: [CTRL] The Ark of the Covenant

1999-11-21 Thread C Davis

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Yes, its there along with other relics.

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Re: [CTRL] The Ark of the Covenant

1999-11-21 Thread YnrChyldzWyld

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On Sat, 20 Nov 1999, JAH Publications wrote:
No it isn't. Roslyn Chapel has already been investigated and The Ark proved
not to be there.

Investigated by whom?  Last I knew (and this was only a few weeks ago),
there is a vault under Rosslyn Chapel that still is not open to public
scrutiny, and purports to hold 'something' which the current caretakers
consider of immense value


June ;-)

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Re: [CTRL] The Ark of the Covenant

1999-11-21 Thread JAH Publications

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You say the last you KNEW. I think you mean the last you HEARD.

Peace be upon you,

JAH.


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 On Sat, 20 Nov 1999, JAH Publications wrote:
 No it isn't. Roslyn Chapel has already been investigated and The Ark
proved
 not to be there.

 Investigated by whom?  Last I knew (and this was only a few weeks ago),
 there is a vault under Rosslyn Chapel that still is not open to public
 scrutiny, and purports to hold 'something' which the current caretakers
 consider of immense value


 June ;-)

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Re: [CTRL] The Ark of the Covenant

1999-11-21 Thread C Davis

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It could be anything...the skull of Jesus or the Ark or other DNA material...

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Re: [CTRL] The Ark of the Covenant

1999-11-21 Thread Nurev Ind Research

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David Rupp wrote:

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 Someone just sent this link to another list that I read:
 http://www.fine-art.com/Steadman/ark.txt
 It seems that the Ark has been located and it's in the hands of the Israeli
 government. I'm sure that most of us can rest easy now, and JAH can find a
 new crusade. Good luck!

 David Rupp
 Get caught up in The Web of Fate at
 http://pages.whowhere.com/arts/david.rupp/home.html.

I beg to differ. It is not in the hands of the Israelis. It is in
a wooden box in a HUGE government warehouse somewhere in the USA.

Joshua2 ;}

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Re: [CTRL] The Ark of the Covenant

1999-11-21 Thread YnrChyldzWyld

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And I notice that YOU fail to explain where YOU 'heard' that it had been
'thoroughly investigated'...

If by that phrase you mean YOUR own studies, you amply prove time and
again how shoddy such 'investigation' is...


On Sun, 21 Nov 1999, JAH Publications wrote:
You say the last you KNEW. I think you mean the last you HEARD.

Peace be upon you,

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Re: [CTRL] The Ark of the Covenant

1999-11-21 Thread JAH Publications

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Nice one, Joshua. Made me smile too.

Peace be upon you,

JAH.


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Subject: Re: [CTRL] The Ark of the Covenant


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 David Rupp wrote:
 
   -Caveat Lector-
 
  Someone just sent this link to another list that I read:
  http://www.fine-art.com/Steadman/ark.txt
  It seems that the Ark has been located and it's in the hands of the
Israeli
  government. I'm sure that most of us can rest easy now, and JAH can find
a
  new crusade. Good luck!
 
  David Rupp
  Get caught up in The Web of Fate at
  http://pages.whowhere.com/arts/david.rupp/home.html.

 I beg to differ. It is not in the hands of the Israelis. It is in
 a wooden box in a HUGE government warehouse somewhere in the USA.

 Joshua2 ;}

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Re: [CTRL] The Ark of the Covenant

1999-11-21 Thread Mark McHugh

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nessie wrote:

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  It is in a wooden box in a HUGE government warehouse somewhere in the
 USA.

 No it's not. It's in my garage. It's holding up the back end of the Chevy
 while I rebuild the differential.


What a crock.  It's in my basement between an old water heater and a bookcase
full of old TM's and Russian FLAMRIC textbooks.  My cat uses it as a perch while
I switch loads from the washer to the dryer.

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Re: [CTRL] The Ark of the Covenant

1999-11-21 Thread nessie

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 It is in a wooden box in a HUGE government warehouse somewhere in the
USA.

No it's not. It's in my garage. It's holding up the back end of the Chevy
while I rebuild the differential.

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Re: [CTRL] The Ark of the Covenant

1999-11-20 Thread C Davis

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The Ark is under the floor of Roselyn Chapel.

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Re: [CTRL] The Ark of the Covenant

1999-11-20 Thread earthman

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Yep, I think you are right..

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 The Ark is under the floor of Roselyn Chapel.

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Re: [CTRL] The Ark of the Covenant

1999-11-20 Thread JAH Publications

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No it isn't. Roslyn Chapel has already been investigated and The Ark proved
not to be there.

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 The Ark is under the floor of Roselyn Chapel.



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Re: [CTRL] The Ark of the Covenant

1999-01-17 Thread JAH Publications

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Dear CTRL list members,

There is absolutely no chance that the Israeli government could have The Ark
because it was removed to Ireland by Jeremiah as part of the punishment of
the Jewish people for not keeping The Covenant. If they have found anything
it is a copy and not the original. So the fight goes on.

For evidence of Jeremiah having died in Ireland visit:-
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/jere.htm

The Conspirators' or David Rupp's story, or wherever it came from is just a
smoke-screen put out to try to put you off getting involved to help me
recover it, because the Conspirators are afraid of its power to defeat them.

Please take no notice of the smoke-screen and write to Sile de Valera to
help persuade her to give me the permit to dig. In my experience there is no
such thing as luck.

Please take note that David Rupp's web-server is STARPOWER.NET the same as
Joshua2, who has also tried to discredit this story.

Why? What do they have to gain from trying to discredit me? Are they part of
the Conspiracy? What harm could it possibly do to 2 metres by 2 metres of
flat grass, in an open field, by letting me dig for the world's greatest
treasure? It makes no sense for them not to give me permission, unless they
don't want me to find it.

Think about it. Would you stop someone digging such a tiny area of grass, in
a field, if there was even a wildly remote chance of finding The Ark, unless
you didn't WANT it to be found?

Please get writing  and faxing now. Y2K is getting closer.

Peace be upon you,

JAH.


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Subject: [CTRL] The Ark of the Covenant


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 Someone just sent this link to another list that I read:
 http://www.fine-art.com/Steadman/ark.txt
 It seems that the Ark has been located and it's in the hands of the
Israeli government. I'm sure that most of us can rest easy now, and JAH can
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Re: [CTRL] The Ark of the Covenant

1999-01-17 Thread David Rupp

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JAH Wrote: There is absolutely no chance that the Israeli government could
have The Ark because it was removed to Ireland by Jeremiah as part of the
punishment of the Jewish people for not keeping The Covenant. If they have
found anything it is a copy and not the original. So the fight goes on.

David: Perhaps the human-reptile alien hybrids, working with the Illuminati
and ex-president George Bush, moved it back using their 4-D technology. Just
a theory.

JAH: The Conspirators' or David Rupp's story, or wherever it came from is
just a smoke-screen put out to try to put you off getting involved to help
me recover it, because the Conspirators are afraid of its power to defeat
them.

David: Not my story. Just a little gem of a story found on the Internet, as
I said. I believe the author left an address and phone number at the bottom.
Maybe they'll help you. Why not reach out and touch someone?

JAH: Please take note that David Rupp's web-server is STARPOWER.NET the same
as Joshua2, who has also tried to discredit this story.

David: I doubt Starpower is part of the conspiracy to stop you. They are way
too incompetent. It took them 2 weeks to get my cable modem to work.
Although the one guy did look kind of scaly

JAH: Think about it. Would you stop someone digging such a tiny area of
grass, in a field, if there was even a wildly remote chance of finding The
Ark, unless you didn't WANT it to be found?

David: I do want the Ark to be found. However, if you came to my house and
told me your story, I'd tell you to get off my property. Then I'd get a
restraining order issued against you.

David
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[CTRL] The Ark of the Covenant

1999-01-16 Thread David Rupp

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Someone just sent this link to another list that I read:
http://www.fine-art.com/Steadman/ark.txt
It seems that the Ark has been located and it's in the hands of the Israeli
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