[CTRL] Fwd: Patriot Act Gives Executive Branch Control of Death Sentencing in All 50 States
-Caveat Lector- Begin forwarded message: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: August 14, 2007 7:31:02 PM PDT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Patriot Act Gives Executive Branch Control of Death Sentencing in All 50 States Gonzales could get say in states' executions Proposed rules would let the attorney general sign off on 'fast tracking' death penalty appeals. By Richard B. Schmitt, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer August 14, 2007 http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na- penalty14aug14,1,4816644.story?ctrack=1cset=true WASHINGTON — The Justice Department is putting the final touches on regulations that could give Atty. Gen. Alberto R. Gonzales important new sway over death penalty cases in California and other states, including the power to shorten the time that death row inmates have to appeal convictions to federal courts. The rules implement a little-noticed provision in last year's reauthorization of the Patriot Act that gives the attorney general the power to decide whether individual states are providing adequate counsel for defendants in death penalty cases. The authority has been held by federal judges. Under the rules now being prepared, if a state requested it and Gonzales agreed, prosecutors could use fast track procedures that could shave years off the time that a death row inmate has to appeal to the federal courts after conviction in a state court. The move to shorten the appeals process and effectively speed up executions comes at a time of growing national concern about the fairness of the death penalty, underscored by the use of DNA testing to establish the innocence of more than a dozen death row inmates in recent years. Amid the public debate, the number of people executed in the U.S. has declined steadily since the mid-1990s. California and several other states have moratoriums on lethal injections, stemming from legal challenges. Opponents say the way the states administer a three-drug lethal cocktail unnecessarily risks excessive pain for the inmate and therefore violates the constitutional bar against cruel and unusual punishment. A federal judge in San Jose, citing a lack of training and supervision of the execution team, ruled California's application of lethal injections unconstitutional. State officials have proposed changing procedures to try to address the judge's concerns. A hearing is in October. Prosecutors say many death penalty cases take far too long to resolve even when the issue of guilt is clear. Especially in the West, where the U.S. 9th Circuit Court of Appeals in San Francisco has blocked many executions, cases can take decades to wind through the courts. In its most recent term, the U.S. Supreme Court restored the death penalty in three cases in which the 9th Circuit had reversed the sentence. One of the cases involved a two-time Arizona murderer who told the sentencing judge: If you want to give me the death penalty, just bring it right on. He was sentenced in 1990. Some Arizona officials say the new procedures are long overdue. If you are going to have the death penalty at all, it shouldn't take 20 to 25 years, said Kent Cattani, the chief capital litigation counsel in the Arizona attorney general's office. Either get rid of it altogether, or try to have a good system in state courts and then accelerate it through the federal courts. On the other side, advocates for death row inmates and some legal experts say the rules would make a bad system worse. It is another means by which people are determined to shut the federal courts down to meaningful review of death penalty cases, said Elisabeth Semel, director of the Death Penalty Clinic at the UC Berkeley law school. The inevitable result of speeding them up is to miss profound legal errors that are made. Lawyers will not see them. Courts will not address them. This is the Bush administration throwing down the gauntlet and saying, 'We are going to speed up executions,' said Kathryn Kase, a Houston lawyer and co-chair of the death-penalty committee for the National Assn. of Criminal Defense Lawyers. About 3,350 people are on death row in the U.S., including more than 600 in California. Most were sentenced in state courts, but death cases almost always end up being reviewed by federal judges too. It is impossible to estimate how many inmates might be affected. Some with appeals pending could see their cases shortened. Cases in the system for 20 years in federal court, it will not affect those, said Cattani. But it will prevent those from happening in the future. The procedures would cut to six months, instead of a year, the time that death row inmates have to file federal appeals once their cases have been resolved in the state courts. It would also impose strict guidelines on federal judges for
[CTRL] Fwd: Patriot Act Expansion
-Caveat Lector- www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@listserv.aol.com/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om ---BeginMessage--- -Caveat Lector- == From: Jennifer Van Bergen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/06/11 Sat PM 03:50:30 EDT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [antiwarbroward] Patriot Act Expansion Friends, It is urgent that the grassroots make our voices heard in the debate about extension/expansion of the PATRIOT Act! On Tuesday, the Senate Intelligence Committee voted to send PATRIOT Act expansion legislation forward, and Congressional committees are expected to mark up additional bills the week of June 20. This is moving much too fast. The reauthorization process is proving to be as secretive as the initial passage of the PATRIOT Act. It will take all of us working together to slow the process down, and open it up for vigorous public debate. Now is the time to make appointments with Congressional representatives for the week of July 4, when they will be back home in their districts, to show them the overwhelming grassroots opposition to extending powers to an unaccountable Justice Department. Groups across the country are already setting up such meetings and planning other events for the Patriot Days of Action, including July 4th activities, rallies, and ad campaigns. If you arent already planning an event, we hope you will join us as we show Congress a burst of local fireworks over extension/expansion of the PATRIOT Act! Here are some updates on Patriot Days of Action resources: 1. We welcome national and local organizations to endorse the Patriot Days of Action. (See the current list at http://www.bordc.org/involved/endorsers.php). Organizations wanting to endorse should send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and provide the name of the organization; whether the organization is a local, state, regional, or national group; web URL; city and/or state; and contact information. 2. A web button for the Patriot Days of Action is now available! You can add it to your organization's web site, or encourage other organizations to put it on their site(s). The code and simple instructions for posting the button are at http://www.bordc.org/involved/weekofactionlink.php. 3. To notify us of events you've planned for the Patriot Days of Action, please fill out our online form: http://www.bordc.org/involved/event_userform.php. We will post the information on our web site and include it in press materials. 4. We have added new resources to our menu of event suggestions, including talking points and tips for holding a news conference: http://www.bordc.org/involved/menu.php. We will continue to add more resources as they become available. If you would like to discuss your plans or ideas with us, please feel free to call or email Hope Marston (Western Region Organizer, [EMAIL PROTECTED], 541-683-1604) or Jessie Baugher (Eastern Region Organizer, [EMAIL PROTECTED], 413-582-0110). Thanks for all you do! Jessie Baugher Administrative Assistant Eastern Region Organizer, Bill of Rights Defense Committee [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 413-582-0110 fax: 413-582-0116 www.bordc.org Patriot Days of Action Endorsers: National Organizations Amnesty International USA Council on American-Islamic Relations Friends Committee on National Legislation (Quaker) National Lawyers Guild People For the American Way ReclaimDemocracy.org Unitarian Universalist Association of Congregrations Local Organizations Action Center For Justice (Charlotte, NC) Charlotte Bill Of Rights Defense Committee (Charlotte, NC) AUTOTEXTLIST \s E-mail Signature AUTOTEXTLIST \s E-mail Signature Jennifer Van Bergen Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:
[CTRL] The Patriot Act: How is it effecting Canada?
-Caveat Lector- -- Forwarded message -- Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2004 11:45:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Party of Citizens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [LJ] Government-by-Threat: Nicholas and Family How many violations of the Constitution (Charter of Rights and Freedoms) can you find in the case of Nicholas as presented last night? The mom said the Christy Clark ministry (Children and Families) told her the media are not an option and implied that benefits could be lost if they exercised their free speech. Of course Christy-the-Coward would not be interviewed and the bureaucrat you interviewed did the trained seal thing and said arf, arf, arf So Nicholas can get $3,000 in support if removed to a foster home (guess how the foster home people vote?) and only $233 in his own home (so much for Charter S.7 fundamental justice). Although OIPCBC is receiving submissions on how the Patriot Act is effecting BC post-9/11, we need a much broader inquiry. To what extent is Government-by-Threat now being imposed on BC-Canada and other countries with the features of coercive programming leading all the way to the Whitehouse? So there is POC's one recommendation to OIPCBC: We need an expanded public inquiry to determine how both the spirit and letter of the Patriot Act are effecting BC and Canada. POC The Governments of BC and Canada believe they have the right to torture and kill innocent citizens. The UDHR says otherwise. http://www.geocities.com/universalhumanrightscanada -- Forwarded message -- Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 11:10:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Party of Citizens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [UNIVERSALHUMANRIGHTS] Torture Complaint Against Canada To UN High Commissioner for Human Rights, Louise Arbour (For her personal attention) Dear Judge Arbour: The web site below presents the complaint of POC and its 27 citizen signatories. Further to our recently exchanged communications, Markus Schmidt, Secretary of the Human Rights Committee has a file record of these signatures. If we are correct in our assessment that torture is being used as an instrument of governance in Canada, then the urgent action categorization of this complaint is warranted. The more such procedures are entrenched by time, the more our citizens are endangered. We do not think that the Supreme Court of Canada judgements on either side in the Gosselin case meant for Life, Liberty and Security (Charter S.7) to be systematically violated in government programming so extreme as to fit the definition of torturous. The governments of this country at any level could provide a domestic remedy with ease. They have had such requests presented to them repeatedly and in various ways. (1) What are the facts of MHR programming, if they do not accept ours as presented below? (2) In what way do those facts fit or not fit the definition of torture used by the UN? Given that they will not provide the necessary information in these two categories to put this matter to rest, would UNHCHR please do do? A ruling which says Yes, the MHR procedures are torturous or No, the MHR procedures are not torturous will not put the matter to rest. All concerned need to know what facts are used in arriving at the judgement and why those facts do or do not fit the accepted definition of torture. But hopefully, the offices cc'd above can send this communication to their experts who will save UNHCHR as well as Part of Citizens further time and trouble. Sincerely-Party of Citizens (This letter as well as the wep pages below can be sent to one or more POC directors for signing and postal mailing if that is required) http://www.geocities.com/universalhumanrightscanada/tortureincanada Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/JFQulB/TM ~- America-the-Good chafes under the iron heel of the Cult of U-S-A as do other states of the world: LIBERATE America, shore up world JUSTICE! Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LIBERTY-AND-JUSTICE/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are
[CTRL] Fwd: Patriot Act Subpoenas
-Caveat Lector- www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om ---BeginMessage--- -Caveat Lector- Robert Novak --Karl Rove buddy who has several times previously "leaked" damaging info for that "boy genius" in a Republican White House-- is smug as a bug in a rug, believing that, as a journalist, he can't be forced to reveal his "confidential source" for his literally criminal outing of Ambassador Wilson's CIA-agent wife. Well, I've got news for you, Mr Novak ... Thanks to the machinations of your own far-right fellow-travellers, you too can now be forced to reveal your "confidential sources." How's that for poetic justice? Hoisted quite high indeed on your petard ... And with Herr Rove come tumbling after ... Secret Subpoenas What Patriotism Means to Ashcroft By ELAINE CASSEL CounterPunch, October 1, 2003 Last year, hacker extraordinaire Adrian Lamo broke into The New York Times web site. For his trouble, he faces a two-count federal indictment in New York, unauthorized access of a computer and unauthorized possession of "access devices" (LexisNexis database passwords). Don't cry for Lamo, but cry for how the FBI and the Department of Justice are using the USA Patriot Act --surprise!-- to threaten journalists and obtain data under the USA Patriot Act. The FBI has sent out letters to reporters who wrote about the Lamo case. The letters warn that subpoenas under the USA Patriot Act will be forthcoming for all of their notes, emails, interviews, content of conversations and investigations, and expense and travel reports related to stories they wrote about Lamo. The journalists are ordered to preserve these records for three months -- this in spite of the fact that the articles were written a year ago. Using the Patriot Act for forthcoming subpoenas is an effort to circumvent journalists' privilege of preserving confidential sources under the First Amendment. Furthermore, reporters who talk to anyone --including their editors or lawyers (!)-- about the subpoenas will be subject to criminal prosecution under the Act. The gag order that violates the 1st Amendment right of speech, the 5th Amendment right to due process, and 6th Amendment right to counsel. The demand that journalists preserve their notes is being made under laws that require ISP's and other providers of electronic communications services to preserve, for example, e-mails stored on their service, pending a subpoena, under a statute modified by the USA-PATRIOT Act. You thought the USA Patriot Act was just to be used to prosecute "terrorism"? Wrong! The Patriot Act was an Executive branch power grab that took place in an atmosphere of hysterical reaction to the September 11 hijackings. Ashcroft seized the day, while the Congress slept. The dirty little secrets of the extent of the Administration's intentions for the law are only just now coming to light. More than likely, you won't know when the law is being used against you. We only know about these subpoenas because a Wired News reporter reported that the FBI contacted him, no doubt trying to get the word out before the gag order kicks in. Secret subpoenas, secret evidence, secret trials. That's patriotism today. Elaine Cassel practices law in Virginia and the District of Columbia, teachers law and psychology, and follows the Bush regime's dismantling of the Constitution at Civil Liberties Watch. She can be reached at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts,
[CTRL] (Fwd) [patriot] (fwd) Are the days of the UN numbered?
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded message follows --- On Fri, 07 Mar 2003 12:11:47, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: RADIO FREE EUROPE/RADIO LIBERTY, PRAGUE, CZECH REPUBLIC ___ RFE/RL NEWSLINE Vol. 7, No. 44, Part I, 7 March 2003 RUSSIA MOSCOW THINKS IRAQ WAR IS IMMINENT. The Emergency Situations Ministry announced on 6 March that it has brought an additional 150 Russian citizens to Moscow from Iraq and that another five flights are scheduled before 10 March that will evacuate virtually all the Russians remaining in that country, RIA-Novosti and other Russian news agencies reported. Russian oil majors Yukos, LUKoil, and Zarubezhneft have all reportedly summoned their employees home. Lenta.ru commented on 6 March that the Emergency Situations Ministry's move is a sign that Moscow has few hopes that a peaceful solution to the Iraq crisis will be found, and that war appears imminent. The website commented that the only issue for Russia now is what role it will play in postwar Iraq. A high-ranking U.S. diplomat who spoke on condition of anonymity told Interfax on 6 March that Russia's opposition to U.S. policy has not gone unnoticed and could have an impact on many aspects of bilateral relations, including U.S. support for Russia's rapid accession to the World Trade Organization (WTO). In his evening commentary on ORT, Mikhail Leontev -- who is known for his hostile attitude toward the United States -- said the most important issue is not Iraq itself, but the role of the United Nations. The UN will be dead in any case. It will be suicide if it approves [a U.S.-led military action], and it will be its death if it does not approve [such an action] and its decision is ignored, Leontev said. VY --- End of forwarded message --- -- Outgoing mail is certified virus free Scanned by Norton AntiVirus A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Patriot II - Latest Updates, DoJ Ignores Conyers on a Bill Five to Ten Times Worse Than The Patriot Act
-Caveat Lector- A HREF=""www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=""Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om ---BeginMessage--- -Caveat Lector- - A Trial Balloon? Five to Ten Times Worse Than the Patriot Act - Secret Bush Legislation Sent to Cheney, Hastert, Deepens Assault on Constitution PATRIOT II by Michael C. Ruppert Copyright, 2003, From The Wilderness Publications, www.fromthewilderness.com. All rights reserved. May be copied, distributed or posted on the Internet for non-profit purposes only. Feb. 25 2003, 1800 PST (FTW) -- With more than twenty U.S. cities having passed resolutions openly opposing the multiple civil liberties violations in the 2001 Patriot Act, and as the state of New Mexico debates legislation that would encourage police agencies to avoid violations of the First Amendment, the recent leak of a secret Bush administration bill that would further erode civil liberties has provoked a bizarre tale of denials and non responses by the administration. Thus far the saga of the Domestic Security Enhancement Act of 2003 - commonly known as Patriot II - suggests that the leak of the proposed legislation was possibly a trial balloon or tester to gauge both public and congressional reaction to a bill that, if passed, would grant the federal government drastic new powers in a continuing erosion of the Bill of Rights. Patriot II has not been officially introduced in either house of congress and thus has no official standing. It has, however, been officially transmitted by the Bush Justice Department to Vice President Cheney (President of the Senate) and House Speaker Denny Hastert, R-Illinois. The bill has already been given a clandestine odor and the Bush administration has violated standard congressional protocols in its handling. In fact, the administration has been caught in outright lies about the bills actual status. In official comments dated February 10, ranking Senate Judiciary Committee member Patrick Leahy, D-Vermont, stated, For months, and as recently as just last week, Justice Department officials have denied to members of the Judiciary Committee that they were drafting another anti-terrorism package. There still has not been any hint from them about their draft bill. John Conyers, D-Michigan, ranking member of the House Judiciary Committee, which has jurisdiction over proposed anti-terrorism legislation, in a Feb, 10th letter to Attorney General John Ashcroft -- signed also by Representatives Robert Scott, D-Virginia, and Sheila Jackson Lee, D-Texas, wrote: We write to express my profound disappointment about your Departments handling of anti-terrorism policy. Recent reports irrefutably indicate that the Department of Justice has been working on a successor bill to the USA Patriot Act for some time. Notwithstanding the Judiciary Committees jurisdiction in this matter and outstanding record of dealing with this legislation, the Committee reported a bipartisan version of the Patriot Act by a unanimous vote, according to the Chairmans spokesman there have been no consultations with the Committee on this bill. Your Spokesperson, Barbara Comstock, claimed in a February 7, statement (attached) that the new draft bill was still in internal deliberations within the Department and still being discussed at staff levels and has not been presented to the White House. This is blatantly false in several respects, yet the Department of Justice Control Sheet (attached) plainly indicates that the bill was forwarded to the Speaker of the House and Vice President on January 10 Conyers specifically requested that the Attorney General reply to his letter no later than February 15, 2003. A Conyers spokesperson told FTW today that not only has the Justice Department not replied to Conyers letter but that they have not even acknowledged receiving it.
[CTRL] Fwd: Patriot Act II: Here Comes the Police State
-Caveat Lector- A HREF=""www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=""Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om ---BeginMessage--- -Caveat Lector- Son of the Patriot Act We have to destroy this village to save it by Charles Lewis Adam Mayle - February 20, 2003 http://westchesterweekly.com/gbase/News/content?oid=oid:2870 Ashcroft and Bush have plans for basic American freedom and rights, and they're not good The Bush administration is preparing a bold, comprehensive sequel to the USA Patriot Act passed in the wake of Sept. 11, 2001, which will give the government broad, sweeping new powers to increase domestic intelligence-gathering, surveillance and law enforcement prerogatives, and simultaneously decrease judicial review and public access to information. The Center for Public Integrity has obtained a draft, dated Jan. 9, of this previously undisclosed legislation and is making it available in full text at its website at www.publicintegrity.org The bill, drafted by the staff of Attorney General John Ashcroft and entitled the Domestic Security Enhancement Act of 2003, has not been officially released by the Department of Justice, although rumors of its development have circulated around the Capitol for the last few months under the name of "the Patriot Act II" in legislative parlance. "We haven't heard anything from the Justice Department on updating the Patriot Act," House Judiciary Committee spokesman Jeff Lungren told the center. "They haven't shared their thoughts on that. Obviously, we'd be interested, but we haven't heard anything at this point." Senior members of the Senate Judiciary Committee minority staff have inquired about Patriot II for months and have been told as recently as this week that there is no such legislation being planned. Mark Corallo, deputy director of Justice's Office of Public Affairs, told the center his office was unaware of the draft. "I have heard people talking about revising the Patriot Act, we are looking to work on things the way we would do with any law," he said. "We may work to make modifications to protect Americans," he added. When told that the Center for Public Integrity had a copy of the draft legislation, he said, "This is all news to me. I have never heard of this." After the center posted this story, Barbara Comstock, director of public affairs for the Justice Department, released a statement saying that, "Department staff have not presented any final proposals to either the Attorney General or the White House. It would be premature to speculate on any future decisions, particularly ideas or proposals that are still being discussed at staff levels." An Office of Legislative Affairs "control sheet" that was obtained by the PBS program "Now With Bill Moyers" seems to indicate that a copy of the bill was sent to Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert and Vice President Richard Cheney on Jan. 10. "Attached for your review and comment is a draft legislative proposal entitled the 'Domestic Security Enhancement Act of 2003,'" the memo, sent from "OLP" or Office of Legal Policy, says. Comstock later told the center that the draft "is an early discussion draft and it has not been sent to either the Vice President or the Speaker of the House." Dr. David Cole, Georgetown University Law professor and author of "Terrorism and the Constitution," reviewed the draft legislation at the request of the center, and said that the legislation "raises a lot of serious concerns. It's troubling that they have gotten this far along and they've been telling people there is nothing in the works." This proposed law, he added, "would radically expand law enforcement and intelligence gathering authorities, reduce or eliminate judicial oversight over surveillance, authorize secret arrests, create a DNA database based on unchecked executive 'suspicion,' create new death penalties, and
[CTRL] prostitution, patriot act II
-Caveat Lector- this may be heavy for survivors Lives Destroyed: Recruitment of youth for massive American sex trade happening here 1/23/03 By Peter Frank, [EMAIL PROTECTED] "There is a Nisswa woman who allegedly convinces local girls to go to the Twin Cities. Once they arrive, they're put to work as prostitutes. They join the ranks of between 200,000 and 300,000 juveniles being used as prostitutes every year in America." http://www.theemailactivist.org/newKGB.htm Dr. David Cole, a Law professor at Georgetown University and author of Terrorism and the Constitution assessed the document, saying, "I think this is a quite radical proposal. It authorizes secret arrests. It would give the Attorney General essentially unchecked authority to deport anyone who he thought was a danger to our economic interests. It would strip citizenship from people for lawful political associations." Secret arrests? Did we hear that right? It seems that the Homeland Security Department (HSD) is about to become the KGB. The first Patriot Act already allows for people to be locked up indefinitely without a lawyer and without being charged with a crime. If Patriot Act II passes, then arrests would also be secret. That means that dissenters (or anyone else, for that matter) could disappear without a trace, just as they did in Nazi Germany, in Stalinist Russia, and in Pinochet's Chile. http://www.publicintegrity.org/dtaweb/report.asp?ReportID=502L1=10L2=10L3=0L4=0L5=0 Dr. David Cole, Georgetown University Law professor and author of Terrorism and the Constitution, reviewed the draft legislation at the request of the Center, and said that the legislation "raises a lot of serious concerns. It's troubling that they have gotten this far along and they've been telling people there is nothing in the works." This proposed law, he added, "would radically expand law enforcement and intelligence gathering authorities, reduce or eliminate judicial oversight over surveillance, authorize secret arrests, create a DNA database based on unchecked executive âsuspicion,' create new death penalties, and even seek to take American citizenship away from persons who belong to or support disfavored political groups." A HREF=""www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=""Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Secret Patriot Act II DESTROYS Remaining US Liberty - Total Police State Takeove
-Caveat Lector- http://www.rense.com/general34/takeover.htm Secret Patriot Act II Destroys Remaining US Liberty Total Police State Takeover The Secret Patriot Act II Destroys What Is Left of American Liberty By Alex Jones www.infowars.com 2-11-3 Congressman Ron Paul (R-Tex) told the Washington Times that no member of Congress was allowed to read the first Patriot Act that was passed by the House on October 27, 2001. The first Patriot Act was universally decried by civil libertarians and Constitutional scholars from across the political spectrum. William Safire, while writing for the New York Times, described the first Patriot Actâs powers by saying that President Bush was ãseizing dictatorial control. On February 7, 2003 the Center for Public Integrity, a non-partisan public interest think-tank in DC, revealed the full text of the Domestic Security Enhancement Act of 2003. The classified document had been leaked to them by an unnamed source inside the Federal government. The document consisted of a 33-page section by section analysis of the accompanying 87-page bill. *Note: On February 10, 2003 I discovered that not only was there a house version that had been covertly brought to Hastert, but that many provisions of the now public Patriot Act II had already been introduced as pork barrel riders on Senate Bill S. 22. Dozens of subsections and even the titles of the subsections are identical to those in the House version. This is very important because it catches the Justice Department in a bald-faced lie. The Justice Department claimed that the secret legislation brought into the House was only for study, and that at this time there was no intention to try and pass it. Now upon reading S. 22, it is clear that the leadership of the Senate is fully aware of the Patriot Act II, and have passed these riders out of their committees into the full bill. I spent two hours scanning through S. 22 and, let me tell you, it is a nightmare for anyone who loves liberty. It even contains the Our Lady of Peace Act that registers all gun owners. It bans the private sale of all firearms, creates a Federal ballistics database, and much more. The bill itself is stamped 'Confidential ö Not for Distribution.' Upon reading the analysis and bill, I was stunned by the scientifically crafted tyranny contained in the legislation. The Justice Department Office of Legislative Affairs admits that they had indeed covertly transmitted a copy of the legislation to Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert, (R-Il) and the Vice President of the United States, Dick Cheney as well as the executive heads of federal law enforcement agencies. It is important to note that no member of Congress was allowed to see the first Patriot Act before its passage, and that no debate was tolerate by the House and Senate leadership. The intentions of the White House and Speaker Hastert concerning Patriot Act II appear to be a carbon copy replay of the events that led to the unprecedented passage of the first Patriot Act. There are two glaring areas that need to be looked at concerning this new legislation: 1. The secretive tactics being used by the White House and Speaker Hastert to keep even the existence of this legislation secret would be more at home in Communist China than in the United States. The fact that Dick Cheney publicly managed the steamroller passage of the first Patriot Act, insuring that no one was allowed to read it and publicly threatening members of Congress that if they didnât vote in favor of it that they would be blamed for the next terrorist attack, is by the White Houseâs own definition terrorism. The move to clandestinely craft and then bully passage of any legislation by the Executive Branch is clearly an impeachable offence. 2. The second Patriot Act is a mirror image of powers that Julius Caesar and Adolf Hitler gave themselves. Whereas the First Patriot Act only gutted the First, Third, Fourth and Fifth Amendments, and seriously damaged the Seventh and the Tenth, the Second Patriot Act reorganizes the entire Federal government as well as many areas of state government under the dictatorial control of the Justice Department, the Office of Homeland Security and the FEMA NORTHCOM military command. The Domestic Security Enhancement Act 2003, also known as the Second Patriot Act is by its very structure the definition of dictatorship. I challenge all Americans to study the new Patriot Act and to compare it to the Constitution, Bill of Rights and Declaration of Independence. Ninety percent of the act has nothing to do with terrorism and is instead a giant Federal power-grab with tentacles reaching into every facet of our society. It strips American citizens of all of their rights and grants the government and its private agents total immunity. Here is a quick thumbnail sketch of just some of the draconian measures encapsulated within this tyrannical legislation: SECTION 501 (Expatriation of
[CTRL] Link - Patriot Act II Draft Legislation
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[CTRL] (Fwd) [patriot] (fwd) I.N.S. Shredder Ended Work Backlog, U.S Says
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded message follows --- T [ Double-click this line for list subscription options ] -- January 31, 2003 http://www.nytimes.com/2003/01/31/national/31FILE.html?th I.N.S. Shredder Ended Work Backlog, U.S. Says By JOHN M. BRODER LOS ANGELES, Jan. 30 Tens of thousands of pieces of mail come into the huge Immigration and Naturalization Service data processing center in Laguna Niguel, Calif., every day, and as at so many government agencies, it tends to pile up. One manager there had a system to get rid of the vexing backlog, federal officials say. This week the manager was charged with illegally shredding as many as 90,000 documents. Among the destroyed papers, federal officials charged, were American and foreign passports, applications for asylum, birth certificates and other documents supporting applications for citizenship, visas and work permits. The manager, Dawn Randall, 24, was indicted late Wednesday by a federal grand jury, along with a supervisor working under her, Leonel Salazar, 34. They are accused of ordering low-level workers to destroy thousands of documents from last February to April to reduce a growing backlog of unprocessed paperwork. Ms. Randall was the file room manager at the I.N.S. center. Mr. Salazar was her file room supervisor. The Laguna Niguel center handles paperwork for residents of California, Arizona, Nevada, Hawaii and Guam and is one of four immigration service centers around the country operated by private contractors under I.N.S. supervision. According to the federal indictment, Ms. Randall ordered her subordinates last January to count the number of unprocessed papers in the filing center. They reported that about 90,000 documents were waiting to be handled. In February, the government says, she ordered at least five night-shift workers to begin shredding many boxes of papers. By the end of March, the backlog had been cut to zero, and Ms. Randall ordered her subordinates to continue destroying incoming paper to keep current, the government says. There was no I.N.S. policy that required this, nor was she ordered to do it by any superior, as far as we know, said Greg Staples, the assistant United States attorney handling the case. The only motive we can think of is just the obvious one of a manager trying to get rid of a nettlesome problem. Mr. Staples said one frustrating thing about the case was that most of the evidence had been carted out with the trash and that it was impossible to identify all of the victims. It's like a murder case without a body, he said. We will never really know what was destroyed. The shredding was discovered in April by an agency supervisor who witnessed what appeared to be unauthorized destruction of documents. The I.N.S. office of internal audit, the Justice Department's inspector general and the United States attorney's office for Southern California conducted the investigation that led to this week's indictments. Ms. Randall and Mr. Salazar were each charged with conspiracy and five counts of willfully destroying documents filed with the I.N.S. The conspiracy charge carries a maximum penalty of five years in federal prison. Each of the other counts can bring three years in prison. Their subordinates were not charged because they were low-level workers acting on instructions, the government said. After the shredding was discovered, the immigration service opened a hotline for people who suspected their paperwork had been destroyed. Agency officials helped petitioners reconstruct their files and gave applicants the benefit of the doubt if they could not replace the documents they had submitted, said Lori Haley, a spokeswoman for the I.N.S.'s western regional office. She said the agency made an effort last year to publicize the problem and was confident that it had rebuilt most of the lost files. She also said that additional staff members had been hired at the center and that oversight had been tightened. Monitoring of the activities of the support services contractor has been enhanced at the service center, Ms. Haley said. All materials to be shredded or destroyed are reviewed first by I.N.S. personnel to make sure that no unauthorized materials are destroyed. Ms. Randall's lawyer, Joseph G. Cavallo, said today that he had not read the charges and would not comment. He said, however, that Ms. Randall would plead not guilty at her arraignment on Monday. Mr. Salazar's lawyer, Tom Brown, did not return calls seeking comment. The four document processing centers are operated under a $325 million contract with JHM Research and Development of Maryland, which in turn subcontracts the operations to two other companies. John Macklin, president of JHM, was unavailable for comment. Mr. Staples, the
[CTRL] Law, Patriot Act, Mothers Against War
-Caveat Lector- this may be heavy for survivors 400 March for Cardinal Law's Resignation By Bipasha Ray "Law has brushed off calls for his resignation for months, but for the first time he now faces the same request from priests. Boston-area priests are circulating a draft statement calling for Law's resignation, and plan to deliver it to him if they get 50 signatures...The Boston Priests Forum, a group of about 250 priests, also plans to discuss the possibility of urging Law to resign at a meeting Friday. The latest personnel papers, part of a huge collection of church files that victims' lawyers pried from the archdiocese, document a priest beating his housekeeper and threatening alleged sex abuse victims, another trading cocaine for sex, and a third claiming to be the second coming of Christ in order to entice teenagers training to be nuns into having sex. Later in the week, other papers disclosed that a priest fathered at least two children, and apparently failed to immediately get medical help for the mother of their children when she overdosed. Amid the latest reports, a financial advisory panel gave Law authority on Wednesday to seek a Chapter 11 bankruptcy filing for the archdiocese_ a move that may prove financially necessary but would infuriate abuse victims seeking damages." http://www.stamfordadvocate.com/news/nationworld/ats-ap_top13dec08,0,3985275.story?coll=sns%2Dnewsnation%2Dheadlines http://www.ccr-ny.org/whatsnew/usa_patriot_act.asp CENTER FOR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS The USA PATRIOT Act: What's So Patriotic About Trampling on the Bill of Rights?1 "Although a number of its provisions are not controversial, the USA PATRIOT Act nevertheless stands out as radical in its design. To an unprecedented degree, the Act sacrifices our political freedoms in the name of national security and upsets the democratic values that define our nation by consolidating vast new powers in the executive branch of government. The Act enhances the executive's ability to conduct surveillance and gather intelligence, places an array of new tools at the disposal of the prosecution, including new crimes, enhanced penalties, and longer statutes of limitations, and grants the Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) the authority to detain immigrants suspected of terrorism for lengthy, and in some cases indefinite, periods of time. And at the same time that the Act inflates the powers of the executive, it insulates the exercise of these powers from meaningful judicial and Congressional oversight. " Antiwar Effort Gains Momentum - Growing Peace Movement's Ranks Include Some Unlikely Allies By Evelyn Nieves Washington Post Staff Writer Monday, December 2, 2002; Page A01 "Reed began worrying that her 25-year-old grandson, who spent four years in the Coast Guard, might be called to serve if the United States were to invade Iraq. Her family also wondered why the United States was threatening to invade Iraq even before United Nations weapons inspections began. And Reed fretted over the particular suffering that would befall Iraqi women; their sons and husbands would be killed, she said, and the women would be left in the rubble to fend off contaminated water and starvation." A HREF=""www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=""Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] PROPHET, PATRIOT, PLAYER, OR PHONY?
-Caveat Lector- Click Here: A HREF=http://www.newsmakingnews.com/vmriconpatriotphoney.htm; QUOTE/A - QUOTE (Michael Riconosciuto): I ran various operations which developed extremely sensitive military applications from highly advanced technology, e.g. ii.Biotechnological weapons, including, but not limited to, lethal monoclonal antibodies which are gene specific, e.g., able to distinguish between specific racial characteristics and cause painful, disastrous, lethal effects for only those individuals exposed to such antibodies whose cell structure contains the target genes. CIA Operative Michael J. Riconosciuto's Declaration in case No. 92 C 6217, filed April 1990, US District Court, Cook County, Illinois. Case: Riconosciuto, et al. v. Nicholas Bua in the Special Grand Jury investigation of the Inslaw matter. THE BAYCITIES OBSERVER Virginia McCullough Have I missed the mark, or, like a true archer, do I strike my mark? Or am I a prophet of lies, a babbler from door to door? Cassandra, as reported by Agamemnon © 2000 Virginia McCullough. All Rights Reserved. Use only with written permission. PROPHET, PATRIOT, PLAYER, OR PHONY? In November of 1990, I received a call from Bill Hamilton, the owner of the Inslaw Corporation. Inslaw was, at that time, involved in a nasty legal fight with the Department of Justice over allegations that the Department of Justice had stolen Inslaw's proprietary software called Promis[e] One of the chief witnesses in the case was a mysterious genius named Michael J. Riconosciuto. Riconosciuto was preparing a declaration to submit in the Inslaw case; he was receiving threats from Department of Justice officials if he filed his statement with the court. Hamilton was aware that I had researched the Riconosciuto family connections in the State of California. He wanted background information on his star witness. In January of 1991, Riconosciuto filed his declaration and he was immediately arrested and jailed on drug charges in the State of Washington. The prosecutor in this drug case was Michael T. Hurley whose name also surfaces in the downing of Pan Am 103 over Lockerbie, Scotland in December of 1988. Hamilton wanted to know if I would accept collect calls from Riconosciuto while he remained in jail in Washington. I told him I would and so began, what Riconosciuto calls, the great adventure Riconosciuto asked me if I had a fax machine; I replied in the affirmative and he requested that I keep it fully loaded with paper. The first fax I received simply stated, Welcome to the adventure. The second fax was signed by Ray Lavas and contained a fax number to respond to if I had questions. Over the next four months my fax machine spat out over 2500 pages of documents independently confirming what Riconosciuto told me in many tape recorded conversations. Reporters dealing with a wide array of subjects called me constantly, telling me that Riconosciuto had asked them to call. Suddenly I was receiving a fast track education on satanic cults, small arms trafficking, the covert use of Indian reservations nationwide, bio-mass burning plants, Trojan horses installed in computers, the Nixon/Reagan/Bush mafia, money laundering through the national HUD agency, the CIA/mafia bust out of savings and loans, sexual slaves used to compromise power mongers, Vietnam drug money laundered to CIA banks, fuel explosives, [and] chemical and biological warfare weapons. When fellow reporters questioned the reality of Riconosciuto's statements, I would convey their doubt. Within hours more documents would arrive that would verify the truth of his allegations. When Riconosciuto made allegations that the United States had developed a gene specific biological warfare weapon that could be used to eliminate specific races, he was laughed at by the few reporters still contacting him. By this time few journalists could afford his collect calls from jail; fewer still considered the story important. Most correspondents considered him crazy or a pathological liar. They had bought the government line. No one thought his story about biological weapons was true. Then my fax machine spat out a two page letter dated January 20, 1983 addressed to Dr. Harry Fair of Tactical Technology in Arlington, Virginia. The letter was signed by CIA operative John P. Nichols (Who is Nichols? Click p. 1, Click p.2, Click p.3.) and was on the letterhead of Cabazon Arms, a joint venture between the small Cabazon Band of Mission Indians and the giant Wackenhut Security firm of Coral Gables, Florida often called the CIA's CIA. In page one, paragraph two, the following statement: On February 15, 1983, I will be forwarding to you a unique list of agents and production techniques related to biological warfare. The Stormont Laboratories, Inc. business plan I mailed you was to prepare you for what we are sending you in this area. Their products
[CTRL] NYM: Patriot Games
-Caveat Lector- the national interest Patriot Games David Brock was the lead gun on The American Spectator's anti-Clinton hit squad -- that is, before he switched sides. Now he says Ted Olson, Bush's lawyer, was, too. Should we care? BY TUCKER CARLSON May 28, 2001 issue of New York Magazine If you're a Salon.com reader, you may be wondering why Ted Olson isn't in jail by now. Despite his evasive disavowals, blared a recent headline in the on-line magazine, Salon investigations showed the right-wing consigliere was deeply involved in a sordid plot to bring down President Clinton. According to evidence assembled by an investigative team, for a time in the nineties, Ted Olson did legal work for The American Spectator -- a magazine that published articles critical of Bill Clinton. And that's not all. On at least one occasion, Olson himself wrote a story hostile both to Clinton and to his wife. Naturally, it was only a matter of time before the scoop -- evidence of Olson's deep involvement in an evil plot to produce unflattering magazine articles -- was noticed on Capitol Hill. The time came in April, when President Bush nominated Olson to be the U.S. solicitor general. Olson had seemed a natural choice for the job. He was generally well regarded in Washington. Most significant, he had argued many times before the Supreme Court, including on behalf of the Bush campaign during the Florida recount. He was considered reasonably scholarly and reliably conservative -- just what you'd want if you were George W. Bush and in the market for a solicitor general. Then the Salon.com bombshell dropped. Democrats on the judiciary committee asked Olson pointed questions about his affiliation with The American Spectator. Pat Leahy of Vermont was particularly eager to discover what Olson might know about the Arkansas Project, the Spectator's investigation into Clinton's behavior as governor of Arkansas. Were you involved in the so-called Arkansas Project at any time? Leahy wanted to know. When and how did you first become aware of the Arkansas Project? Olson's replies were straightforward. Pointing out that he was not an employee but a member of the magazine's board, Olson said he had no direct role in the Arkansas Project. He said that he first became aware of the project sometime in 1998. The one Clinton story he wrote for the magazine had nothing to do with it. The story might have ended here if the judiciary committee hadn't heard from David Brock. Brock used to work at the Spectator. He had a different memory. According to Brock, Ted Olson's role in the magazine's anti-Clinton stories was larger than he had admitted. As Brock later told the Washington Post, Olson attended dinners at the home of Bob Tyrrell, The American Spectator's editor-in-chief. Some of those dinners, Brock alleged, were actually editorial planning sessions, on articles on the Clintons in Arkansas. Senator Leahy was appalled. He demanded that Olson turn over any minutes, audits, or records pertaining to anti-Clinton articles and the Arkansas Project. And he suggested that investigators from the judiciary committee obtain information firsthand from writers and editors who worked at the Spectator during the years Olson served on the board. In the meantime, Olson's journey to the solicitor general's office stalled. There are two striking things about Ted Olson's recent experiences in the Senate. One is that so far, hardly anyone on Olson's side -- or, for that matter, at the ACLU or on the Washington Post's editorial page -- has cried McCarthyism. Olson has not been charged with a crime. He stands accused of being in the company of journalists who dislike Bill Clinton. This shouldn't be enough to derail a nomination. The other thing is that Brock was able with a straight face to describe any dinner at Bob Tyrrell's house as an editorial planning session. To anyone who has ever eaten dinner with Bob Tyrrell (and I have a number of times), this is ludicrous. A sober Tyrrell sitting at the table, sharing his editorial vision, listening as story ideas are batted around? Impossible to imagine. Perhaps Brock was using editorial planning session as an amusing euphemism. But he almost certainly wasn't. Which is part of the reason the entire sordid plot theory is so ridiculously improbable. Bob Tyrrell was never at the center of a powerful conspiracy. He was a buffoon. The Arkansas Project never came close to bringing down the president. The investigation didn't even produce a credible magazine story. Indeed, the Arkansas Project -- wasteful, misguided, and credibility-sapping -- is one of the main reasons The American Spectator no longer exists in recognizable form. It's now a business magazine. The Arkansas Project didn't destroy Clinton. It destroyed The American Spectator. So, was Ted Olson, as a member of the board of a small conservative magazine, a threat to American democracy? Even Pat Leahy must know
[CTRL] Another *Patriot*
Please note that the "S-S-Banner" was written in 1814, during the assault
on Ft McHenry (War of 1812). AER
From http://looksmart.infoplease.com/ipa/A0194015.html
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On Sept. 13, 1814, Francis Scott Key visited the British fleet in Chesapeake
Bay to secure the release of Dr. William Beanes, who had been captured after
the burning of Washington, D.C. The release was secured, but Key was detained
on ship overnight during the shelling of Fort McHenry, one of the forts
defending Baltimore. In the morning, he was so delighted to see the American
flag still flying over the fort that he began a poem to commemorate the
occasion. First published under the title Defense of Fort M'Henry, and later
as The Star-Spangled Banner, the poem soon attained wide popularity as sung
to the tune To Anacreon in Heaven. The origin of this tune is obscure, but it
may have been written by John Stafford Smith, a British composer born in 1750.
The Star-Spangled Banner was officially made the National Anthem by Congress
in 1931, although it already had been adopted as such by the Army and the Navy.
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From www.townhall.com/columnists/wfbuckley/printwfb000717.shtml
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townhall.com
William F. Buckley, Jr. (back to story)
July 17, 2000
Is 'The Patriot' patriotic
The furor over "The Patriot," the "patriotic" movie that enshrines honor,
family, liberty, gore and banality, raises yet again the question: What do we
know about our birthright, as sons and daughters of the Revolutionary War?
One school of thought, in a comfortable sedentary way, says: Why all the fuss?
Everybody knows "The Star-Spangled Banner" version of American history.
These assumptions are not safe, not even professionally. A consequence of
holding to that position was drastically suffered by a young columnist in
Boston. Conservative Jeff Jacoby, writing his biweekly column for The Boston
Globe, filed a piece in which he recounted the future lives of the 56 signers
of the Declaration of Independence: X number imprisoned, Y number killed in
action, Z number dispossessed.
Most of us first heard about the ill-fated Founders at age 6, and again every
year or two since then. But lo! Mr. Jacoby neglected to introduce his column on
the Founders' fate by acknowledging that it was old stuff -- and he got
suspended! On hearing this, one had the feeling it would be deceptive to relay
in a column the arguments of "Areopagitica" without first confessing that John
Milton had first come up with them.
So then: We have a movie. It is written by Robert Rodat, who gave us "Saving
Private Ryan," and it is directed by Roland Emmerich, who gave us "Independence
Day" and "Godzilla." The hero is Mel Gibson, the villain is Jason Isaacs. The
plot is the South Carolina chapter of the Revolutionary War. The contested
parts of the movie have to do with British conduct during the war, and with
slavery.
Question: Is it believable, let alone true, that British officers would
incinerate an entire congregation of men, women and children trapped in a
church during Sunday services? Was the British attitude toward life
indistinguishable from that of Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union?
David Horowitz, the distinguished author and bellicose critic of wanton anti-
Americanism, weighed in heavily on the whole question in his important and
lively FrontPagemag.com Web site. He begins by reminding us that the extent of
historical ignorance in America is, well, unbelievable. A recent survey of 55
leading colleges and universities revealed that 80 percent of seniors are
virtually illiterate in the subject. They could not, for instance, identify
Patrick Henry. (If Mr. Jacoby, when he resumes his column, reveals that Patrick
Henry was the man who said "Give me liberty or give me death!" he should
remember to cite his sources.)
Mr. Horowitz defends persuasively the conviction that the Revolutionary War
brought on a crystallization of the ideals of the Founders. By no means
complete -- the abolition of slavery, the enfranchisement of women were years
ahead -- but to ignore the war's idealistic contribution to the idea of freedom
and equality is greatly to disserve it, as also the sacrifices endured.
Granted that most men of the soil will fight to resist oppressors, whether
Americans, Nazis or communists, wars can nevertheless be distinguished from the
mere genus-war when a strategic goal in sight is such as the goals of freedom
and liberty enunciated in the Declaration of Independence.
In 1774 an old statute imposed on a slaveowner who killed his own slave the
trivial sentence of one year in jail. Mr. Horowitz reminds us that "Eight years
later, when the revolution had been won, the North Carolina legislature changed
the law, saying the old law was 'disgraceful to humanity and degrading in the
highest degree to the laws and principles of a free, Christian and enlightened
country' because it drew a 'distinction of criminality between the murder of a
white person and of one who is equally
[CTRL] The Patriot Reviewed...
The Nazis, er, the Redcoats are coming! The savage soldiers in "The Patriot" act more like the Waffen SS than actual British troops. Does this movie have an ulterior motive? - - - - - - - - - - - - By Jonathan Foreman July 03, 2000 | The week before "The Patriot" opened in the United States, the British press lit up with furious headlines. "Truth is first casualty in Hollywood's War," read one in the Daily Telegraph. Another story, about the historical model for Mel Gibson's character was titled, "The Secret Shame of Mel's New Hero." The accompanying articles complained that the new Revolutionary War epic portrays British redcoats as "bloodthirsty and unprincipled stormtroopers" and "bloodthirsty child-killers." The prizewinning historian and biographer Andrew Roberts called the film "racist" in the Daily Express, and pointed out that it was only the latest in a series of films like "Titanic," "Michael Collins" and "The Jungle Book" remake that have depicted the British as "treacherous, cowardly, evil [and] sadistic." Roberts had a theory: "With their own record of killing 12 million American Indians and supporting slavery for four decades after the British abolished it, Americans wish to project their historical guilt onto someone else." I can only imagine how much angrier Fleet Street's pundits will be after they have actually seen the movie. "The Patriot" will not open in England until August, but when it does, Brits will see a supposedly authentic historical epic that radically rewrites the known history of the Revolutionary War. It does so by casting George III's redcoats as cartoonish paragons of evil who commit one monstrous -- but wholly invented -- atrocity after another. In one scene, the most harrowing of the film, redcoats round up a village of screaming women and children and old men, lock them in a church and set the whole chapel on fire. If you didn't know anything about the Revolution, you might actually believe the British army in North America was made up of astonishingly cruel, even demonic, sadists who really did do this kind of thing -- as if they were the 18th century equivalent of the Nazi SS. Yet no action of the sort ever happened during the war for independence, but an eerily identical war crime -- one of the most notorious atrocities of World War II -- was carried out by the Nazis in France in 1944. As a film critic for the New York Post, I found "The Patriot" well made and often exciting. But I also found it disturbing in a way that many weaker, dumber films are not. It's not just that it willfully distorts history in a manner that goes way beyond the traditional poetic license employed by Hollywood, it's the strange, primitive politics that seem to underlie that distortion. "The Patriot" is a movie that doesn't "get" patriotism -- in either a modern or the 18th century sense of the word. The only memorable, explicit political sentiment voiced comes when Gibson's character makes the rather Tory comment that he sees no advantage in replacing the tyranny of one man 3,000 miles away for the tyranny of 3,000 men, one mile away. The deliberate lacuna demonstrates a total lack of understanding of, or even a kind of hostility to, the patriotic politics that motivated the founding fathers. You could actually argue without too much exaggeration that "The Patriot" is as fascist a film (and I use the term in its literal sense, not as a synonym for "bad") as anything made in decades. It's even more fascist than "Fight Club," that ode to violence, barely repressed homoeroticism and the rejection of consumer capitalism. "The Patriot" presents a deeply sentimental cult of the family, casts unusually Aryan-looking heroes and avoids any democratic or political context in its portrayal of the Revolutionary War. Instead of such context, it offers a story in which the desire for blood vengeance -- for a son shot by a British officer -- turns Gibson's character into a "patriot." Meanwhile, the imagery piles up: In one scene towheaded preteens are armed by their father and turned into the equivalent of the Werwolf boy-soldiers that the Third Reich was thought to have recruited from the Hitler Youth to carry out guerrilla attacks against the invading Allies. In the film's most exciting sequence, Gibson is provoked by the foreigner into becoming one of those bloodied, ax-wielding forest supermen so beloved in Nazi folk-iconography: an 18-century equivalent of the Goth leader Arminius (aka Hermann the German) who annihilated two Roman Legions in the Teutoburger Forest. The black population of South Carolina -- where the film is set -- is basically depicted as happy loyal slaves, or equally happy (and unlikely) freedmen. But the most disturbing thing about "The Patriot" is not just that German director Roland Emmerich (director of the jingoistic "Independence Day") and his screenwriter Robert Rodat (who was criticized for excluding British and other Allied soldiers from his script for
Re: [CTRL] The Patriot Reviewed...
From: "William Shannon" [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Nazis, er, the Redcoats are coming! The savage soldiers in "The Patriot" act more like the Waffen SS than actual British troops. Does this movie have an ulterior motive? Can't speak for any potential 'ulterior motive', but the British in the southern campaign, especially "Butcher" Tarleton, were especially savage, so much so they began to alienate their loyalist supporters... July 03, 2000 | The week before "The Patriot" opened in the United States, the British press lit up with furious headlines. "Truth is first casualty in Hollywood's War," read one in the Daily Telegraph. Another story, about the historical model for Mel Gibson's character was titled, "The Secret Shame of Mel's New Hero." The accompanying articles complained that the new Revolutionary War epic portrays British redcoats as "bloodthirsty and unprincipled stormtroopers" and "bloodthirsty child-killers." Well, the PC element in Great Britain may not like the depiction, but it doesn't change the FACT that that is exactly how the British troop acted in the Carolinas... The prizewinning historian and biographer Andrew Roberts called the film "racist" in the Daily Express, and pointed out that it was only the latest in a series of films like "Titanic," "Michael Collins" and "The Jungle Book" remake that have depicted the British as "treacherous, cowardly, evil [and] sadistic." Roberts had a theory: "With their own record of killing 12 million American Indians and supporting slavery for four decades after the British abolished it, Americans wish to project their historical guilt onto someone else." Perhaps...but the historical FACT is that the British troops in the Revolutionary War utilized native Americans, most notably the Iroquois nation, in its campaign against the American forces...and the troops containing the native Americans perpetrated some God-awful atrocities Of course, so did the Americans...that was the way it was, each side committed atrocities, and that was true whether it was between Great Britain and its troublesome colonists to the west, or a war between neighboring Indian tribes or one between neighboring European nations... It wasn't until after WWI that nations considered anything along the lines of a "Geneva Convention" delineating 'rules of war'...before that, anything went, and usually did... I can only imagine how much angrier Fleet Street's pundits will be after they have actually seen the movie. "The Patriot" will not open in England until August, but when it does, Brits will see a supposedly authentic historical epic that radically rewrites the known history of the Revolutionary War. It does so by casting George III's redcoats as cartoonish paragons of evil who commit one monstrous -- but wholly invented -- atrocity after another. In one scene, the most harrowing of the film, redcoats round up a village of screaming women and children and old men, lock them in a church and set the whole chapel on fire. If you didn't know anything about the Revolution, you might actually believe the British army in North America was made up of astonishingly cruel, even demonic, sadists who really did do this kind of thing -- as if they were the 18th century equivalent of the Nazi SS. Yet no action of the sort ever happened during the war for independence, but an eerily identical war crime -- one of the most notorious atrocities of World War II -- was carried out by the Nazis in France in 1944. Perhaps not...but "Butcher" Tarleton got his nickname when, after roaming the Carolina countryside with his troops, setting fire to various rebel establishments, they came upon a band of rebels who sought to surrender. Instead of accepting their surrender like a gentleman, he and his troops set upon their victims with their bayonets, and continued the slaughter for over a quarter of an hour, circling back and repeatedly stabbing those they'd already downed, making sure no one was left alive... The British in the northern campaign were relatively more civilized... "The Patriot" is a movie that doesn't "get" patriotism -- in either a modern or the 18th century sense of the word. The only memorable, explicit political sentiment voiced comes when Gibson's character makes the rather Tory comment that he sees no advantage in replacing the tyranny of one man 3,000 miles away for the tyranny of 3,000 men, one mile away. The deliberate lacuna demonstrates a total lack of understanding of, or even a kind of hostility to, the patriotic politics that motivated the founding fathers. But it DOES portray the sentiment of the majority of colonists... "The Patriot" presents a deeply sentimental cult of the family, casts unusually Aryan-looking heroes Considering the majority of whites living in the colonies at the time were of English, Scots, Irish, and French extraction, this 'Aryan' look is not surprising... Is the 'pc' view now that we should show the typical American colonist of the
Re: [CTRL] The Patriot
Nurev Ind Research wrote: 6/29/00 I Just saw The Patriot. This is one of the worst movies I've seen in years. And I see lots of movies. Mell Gibson ruins every scene he is in. With all the money he makes for such incompetent work, you would think that he would invest in acting lessons. Every single actor in the movie turns in a better performance than he does. That includes some very young children. The movie is beautiful to look at and the production is impressive, but the script consists of strung together clichés punctuated by very bad acting by the lead. Even the supporting cast couldn't protect The Patriot from foreign invader Mel Gibson. Yikes! Joshua2 Sounds like you really dislike the dude. What did you think of him in Braveheart? Conspiracy Theory? A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The Patriot
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nurev Ind Research wrote: 6/29/00 I Just saw The Patriot. This is one of the worst movies I've seen in years. And I see lots of movies. Mell Gibson ruins every scene he is in. With all the money he makes for such incompetent work, you would think that he would invest in acting lessons. Every single actor in the movie turns in a better performance than he does. That includes some very young children. The movie is beautiful to look at and the production is impressive, but the script consists of strung together clichés punctuated by very bad acting by the lead. Even the supporting cast couldn't protect The Patriot from foreign invader Mel Gibson. Yikes! Joshua2 Sounds like you really dislike the dude. What did you think of him in Braveheart? He was much better in Braveheart. He does action scenes well. But this role required ACTING in closeup, and he just can't do it. He ruined the movie. He probably made 15 or 20 Mil for this picture. Only in an economic system like this could a bad actor be paid that kind of money for such shoddy work. J2 A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The Patriot
Ynr Chyldz Wyld wrote: From: "Nurev Ind Research" [EMAIL PROTECTED] The movie is beautiful to look at and the production is impressive, but the script consists of strung together clichés punctuated by very bad acting by the lead. Even the supporting cast couldn't protect The Patriot from foreign invader Mel Gibson. Point of fact, Gibson was born here in the U.S. I believe his family is from New York State, but my memory is hazy on that... Gibson's father decided to immigrate to Australia when Mel was about 11 years of age... June I believe you are right June. J2 A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The Patriot
6/29/00 I Just saw The Patriot. This is one of the worst movies I've seen in years. And I see lots of movies. Mell Gibson ruins every scene he is in. With all the money he makes for such incompetent work, you would think that he would invest in acting lessons. Every single actor in the movie turns in a better performance than he does. That includes some very young children. The movie is beautiful to look at and the production is impressive, but the script consists of strung together clichés punctuated by very bad acting by the lead. Even the supporting cast couldn't protect The Patriot from foreign invader Mel Gibson. Yikes! Joshua2 A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The Patriot
From: "Nurev Ind Research" [EMAIL PROTECTED] The movie is beautiful to look at and the production is impressive, but the script consists of strung together clichés punctuated by very bad acting by the lead. Even the supporting cast couldn't protect The Patriot from foreign invader Mel Gibson. Point of fact, Gibson was born here in the U.S. I believe his family is from New York State, but my memory is hazy on that... Gibson's father decided to immigrate to Australia when Mel was about 11 years of age... June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] This Patriot will NEVER support the Demo/Repub Duopoly!
Their supporters are not only Criminals (misappropriation of taxpayer fiat-currency), but they are outright Traitors (who support the actions/inactions of the rapist/slumlord). The only peaceful means left us is the Ballot Box. Come November, don't betray our fallen heroes who gave their last ounce so YOU can exercise your Right to protest the current indignities to our human sense of right and wrong; your Vote DOES count. The Senate is onthe verge of casting our Nation into the deep bowels of Hell. I shutter to think what our future portends with the de-facto recognition of aterrorist Nation which has brought so much misery and death toits People. The increasing arrests of our Patriot Brothers and Sisters is no accident; it is an orchestrated effort to suppress their Rights underour Constitution. If the Duopolyis victorious in November, I predict an major increase in this type of action; your Vote for our Oppressors will have strengthen their will. I urge you with every last breath I have to do the right thing come November. Only four and one-half months are left; more than sufficient time to reflect on the degradation and deprivation of our Freedoms by the Criminals and the Traitors. When your Mother gave birth to you your Parents will filled with Joy and the Future was bright that you would survive to fulfill the unfulfilled dreams of your Parents; You were so innocent! But much water has drifted over the Dam, and you are no longer that bundle of hope and joy. Forces unbeknownst to you are modifying your innocence to mold you into an instrument of Evil. 'Love' cannot exist side by side with a displaced Spirit of goodness, and consequently you will never know the true Love you must first possess toLove others. Recapture the Rapture of the Spirit of Good come November. Bard PS: I so enjoy being able to convey my message of hope for the Future; however, I do have an increasing anxiety that many will optfor the masked gifts proffered by those who connive for your Vote, and promote the fallacy your Vote doesn't count because of the vote fraud perpetuated by the National Election Service, which is funded by the thugs in the four national TV news services; it's just one more means to control you. REMEMBER: TO KEEP THE PEACE, KEEP YOUR PIECE! I, and I am certain others, would enjoy reading more messages from those, who, from their Heart, express their reawakening from their complacency of thePast and their denial of the wrongs inflicted. I love each and every one of you who protect the sanctity of Life and strive to live according to the time-honored Commandments of our forefathers; what possible Good could emanate from living otherwise? We must translate our hope for a better tomorrow by using today to muster the Spirit that once existed at the time of our Nation's inception. In closing, my Heart is almost bursting with anticipation of victory in November; it being the Reward of your unselfish effort to make it so. You Humble Messenger of Good Tidings, and Your Trumpeter Warning You of Extreme Danger Ahead, Bard
Re: [CTRL] FW: Patriot Action Television Network
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- Can You Put me into Contact with the Partculars who are in charge for the P.A.T. N. ? and get them to reply to me. As I am on Channel 15/17 up here in Northern VT. Independent Producer /Regional Anchor. Thanks. ~ Mike ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 27, 2000 8:01 PM Subject: [CTRL] FW: Patriot Action Television Network -Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- hmm... Press Pass anyone ? Dave Hartley http://www.asheville-computer.com/dave -Original Message- From: spiker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 27, 2000 9:23 PM To: Recipient list suppressed Subject: Patriot Action Television Network Patriot Action Television Network http://sites.netscape.net/inyourfacetv/patv If you are willing to carry a rifle for freedom...You should also be willing to carry a camcorder for freedom. WE DARE YOU TO PUT UP OR SHUT UP, TRUTH IS A VIRUS! You can help us dominate the airwaves by calling your local cable company and asking to be placed on the local public access channel. 1.Fill out the forms. 2.Request a prime time slot. 3.Send us your time and channel and whether or not you wish to be an affiliate Camcorder Commando or anchor. Finally there are enough informed Americans to conduct a full frontal media charge! A squad of Camcorder Commandos with fixed microphones will do more damage to the enemy than a million bullets. THE EMPIRE IS ON THE RUN! WE ARE ON THE MARCH! Any General knows if the enemy is retreating...You don't let them regroup. P.A.T.V. will operate like an army in the field with Battalion Commanders, Platoons, Scouts, and Spies. Militia units should be used to this concept. All others will be trained in cable boot camp. IMPORTANT NOTE!!! Your local T.V. News channel has NO claim on what is or isn't news. If you have access to the cable system, simply declare yourself a news crew and you are "one". No special news license exists! P.A.T.V. will back you up on whatever kind of press credentials you care to use. Create a press pass for yourself on a desktop publisher, (or have your friends do it). Include the words P.A.T.V. CABLE NEWS OFFICIAL BUSINESS---(Email us so we know.) Here is your assignment... Walk into your local city hall with cameraman press pass, etc And start asking hard core questions. (If you've been involved in the patriot fight for any length at all...You will know what to say.) Send us the tape. We will edit all tapes from ALL over the country into one powerful documentary and send it back to you, plus put it on the Internet! Who you gonna shoot? (with a TV camera) THE MAYOR, THE CITY COUNCIL, THE POLICE CHIEF, THE SHERIFF, CONGRESSMEN, PESKY TV ANCHOR LEFTISTS (they hate that) NEWSPAPER REPORTERS (who wouldn't know a story if it bit 'em!) Shoot EVERYBODY and not get arrested. You don't leave messy bodies laying around...PLUS...If they're really idiots in person, TV magnifies that 100X's!!! Besides, You've been thrown out of better places...Right?!? No.1 Rule...If they are a public servant in a public place---they're FAIR GAME!!! PUT IT IN THEIR FACE! This site will be used as a news wire for affiliates...We expect you to acquire PGP Crypto for secure communication. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'-with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds-is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used po
[CTRL] FW: Patriot Action Television Network
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- hmm... Press Pass anyone ? Dave Hartley http://www.asheville-computer.com/dave -Original Message- From: spiker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 27, 2000 9:23 PM To: Recipient list suppressed Subject: Patriot Action Television Network Patriot Action Television Network http://sites.netscape.net/inyourfacetv/patv If you are willing to carry a rifle for freedom...You should also be willing to carry a camcorder for freedom. WE DARE YOU TO PUT UP OR SHUT UP, TRUTH IS A VIRUS! You can help us dominate the airwaves by calling your local cable company and asking to be placed on the local public access channel. 1.Fill out the forms. 2.Request a prime time slot. 3.Send us your time and channel and whether or not you wish to be an affiliate Camcorder Commando or anchor. Finally there are enough informed Americans to conduct a full frontal media charge! A squad of Camcorder Commandos with fixed microphones will do more damage to the enemy than a million bullets. THE EMPIRE IS ON THE RUN! WE ARE ON THE MARCH! Any General knows if the enemy is retreating...You don't let them regroup. P.A.T.V. will operate like an army in the field with Battalion Commanders, Platoons, Scouts, and Spies. Militia units should be used to this concept. All others will be trained in cable boot camp. IMPORTANT NOTE!!! Your local T.V. News channel has NO claim on what is or isn't news. If you have access to the cable system, simply declare yourself a news crew and you are "one". No special news license exists! P.A.T.V. will back you up on whatever kind of press credentials you care to use. Create a press pass for yourself on a desktop publisher, (or have your friends do it). Include the words P.A.T.V. CABLE NEWS OFFICIAL BUSINESS---(Email us so we know.) Here is your assignment... Walk into your local city hall with cameraman press pass, etc And start asking hard core questions. (If you've been involved in the patriot fight for any length at all...You will know what to say.) Send us the tape. We will edit all tapes from ALL over the country into one powerful documentary and send it back to you, plus put it on the Internet! Who you gonna shoot? (with a TV camera) THE MAYOR, THE CITY COUNCIL, THE POLICE CHIEF, THE SHERIFF, CONGRESSMEN, PESKY TV ANCHOR LEFTISTS (they hate that) NEWSPAPER REPORTERS (who wouldn't know a story if it bit 'em!) Shoot EVERYBODY and not get arrested. You don't leave messy bodies laying around...PLUS...If they're really idiots in person, TV magnifies that 100X's!!! Besides, You've been thrown out of better places...Right?!? No.1 Rule...If they are a public servant in a public place---they're FAIR GAME!!! PUT IT IN THEIR FACE! This site will be used as a news wire for affiliates...We expect you to acquire PGP Crypto for secure communication. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: [patriot] (fwd) A New American Hero
Note: forwarded message attached. __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com Forwarded intact; credit where credit is due. A most excellent post!! - Original Message - Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 06:54:47 -0600 From: schuetzen - RKBA! Subject: [patriot] (fwd) A New American Hero On Tue, 21 Mar 2000 14:56:01 -0700, spiker wrote: A New American Hero http://www.sierratimes.com/edmc032000.htm Editorial By : Sheriff Mike (c) copyright 2000 - SierraTimes.com http://www.sierratimes.com/ America we now have a new HERO in our country. His name is Wayne LaPierre and he became a hero because he told the truth. He told the truth about President Clinton. Boy, did it make the President mad or what? Kind of reminds me of John Wayne who would tell the truth when it wasn't the popular topic of the day. He was honored as he should have been as a hero and a great American. Reminds me of an old saying, "the truth hurts." When Mr. LaPierre said, "I've come to believe [Clinton] needs a certain level of violence in this country," he was hitting the old nail on the head. Clinton is in front of the camera as soon as his legs can get him there every time there is violence with a firearm in the news. You don't see him there when the violence involves some other weapon. Then he pulls the same thing he always does and lies. What I find ironic about all that is the fool expects you to believe him, and what is even more hilarious is there are people who do. Clinton can't even get his statistics right, (16 children a day to gun violence), that is only a few thousand off. But you are not allowed to question his story or you are a no-good that needs to be controlled. Kind of sounds like another leader we hear so much about who runs a small island called Cuba. Clinton fired back with his old," lets ask the parents of the slain children" thing. Well once more he was talking and not paying attention to what the people are saying. The parents already said it wasn't the gun and the regulations he was asking for wouldn't have prevented what happened. My question is, why isn't someone asking Clinton about all the children he has killed. I think there were several in the Compound at Waco who died. However he also killed their parents, so who was left to complain? Once in the country we had an actor who became president. He wasn't a great actor but he was a fair president. Now we have a president who is a great actor. His only short-coming is that he lies then forgets to get the facts for the next lie. However, you are not allowed to say anything because then you are picking on him and that's not allowed. I have said it many times and I will say it again, crime and guns don't have any connection other than being a tool - like a knife, car, screwdriver, or any other tool that a criminal will use. When laws are passed, they only affect law abiding citizens - criminals don't obey the law. Our government is after control of our land and our lives, and the only way to get total control is by disarming us. That is the only agenda. Look at what happened to the crime rate in England and Australia after they took all the firearms. You have to be blind not to see what that did. Mr. LaPierre, unlike Clinton, is speaking for 3.8 million NRA members and 80,000,000 gun owners, He is also speaking of our Constitution and the rights we as Americans enjoy to remain free people. Clinton is speaking for whoever pays him the most money and gives him the most power, and he sure doesn't speak about the Constitution or your rights. Clinton doesn't like the Constitution and has said so on many occasions. Clinton thinks our rights are there only to get in his way and keep him from his agenda of Socialism. It's the old "trust me I know what is best for you" story all over again. I saw a movie once where they built a wall around New York City and turned it into a prison. I think this is one time when life should imitate art and we could put the Clintons in there to take control and run that prison all they wanted to. I would volunteer to be a guard as long as we could shoot anyone trying to escape. America needs to get back to what it has always been: land of the free and home of the brave. We need our president and all elected and appointed officials to quit wasting our time and theirs, our money and theirs, on this stupid agenda of the Presidents. There is no excuse for stupid, remember that. There is also no way you can ever trust a liar or a draft dodger, unfortunately we have one in the White House. Now Mr. Clinton, tell me which part isn't true. Mr. LaPierre thank you from the bottom of my heart, you are a hero and a true American. Michael E. Cook, Coos County
[CTRL] Fwd: [patriot] (fwd) SW is really Tompkins PLC, Tompkins is really.....
Scanned with McAfee and Norton anti-virus. Forwarded intact, credit where credit is due. Note: forwarded message attached. __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com Forwarded intact. - Original Message - Boycotts, anyone? Tomkins PLC - Subsidiary Companies (Smith Wesson) Guns and buns are two of the hundreds of diverse products made by international manufacturer Tomkins, whose practice is to buy companies, streamline their operations, and sell them. The firm's Smith Wesson subsidiary is the world's #1 handgun maker, and its Red Wing subsidiary is a leading US maker of private-label grocery products. Other Tomkins companies produce and distribute food and baking ingredients, transmission parts, automotive products such as belts and hoses, plumbing components, construction products, garden mowers, bicycles, handcuffs, and snowblowers. Chairman Gregory Hutchings' plans include selling Tomkins' food-related businesses to focus on its engineering activities. * Construction components TITUS - Air System Components - designs and manufactures air distribution products for HVAC systems Cobra - diverse range of products from designer taps and mixers, (faucets), state of the art water control technology for industrial and commercial applications. Dearborn Midwest Conveyor Co.- 2" Cable Link Conveyor Systems, Overhead Power and Free Conveyors, Skid and Floor Conveyors, Postal Conveyors and Bulk Conveyors. Dexter Axle - Manufacturer of trailer running gear. Lasco Bathware - America's Bathtub Co. tubs, whirlpools and etc... Lasco Fittings - Schedule 40, Schedule 80, and Drain Waste and Vent (DWV) PVC pipe fittings. We manufacture fittings for general use, irrigation, golf course, plumbing and industrial applications. Product line includes insert fittings, unions, compression fittings, repair couplings, swing joints, swivel joints, and many more. Lau - manufacturer of air-moving components and fan systems in North America for the Heating, Ventilation, Air Conditioning and Refrigeration Industries. (HVAC) Mayfran - conveying systems, filtration equipment and separators that facilitate material handling, and coolant recovery for automobile manufacturers, machine tool builders, the metal working and scrap/recycling/solid waste industries. Philips Products - Windows and doors.. Philips (Malta) - Windows and doors.. Philips (Ventline) - VENTLINE manufactures range hoods, bathroom fans, and other ventilation products for the home. Ruskin - manufacturer of dampers and louvers..products for the HVAC Industry.. Shipham Co. Ltd - Specialist in valves and castings. Twiflex - disc brakes, flexible coupling and clutch couplings. Food manufacturing Overseal - Supplier of Yeast and food colouring for the food and drink industry.. R F Brookes/Avana - bakery goods and frozen foods - UK only Rank Hovis - flours, breads - UK only Red Wing - Produces private label foods, mostly condiments, catsup, maple syrup, salad dressings, peanut butter, jams and jellies... U.S. RHM Technology - food safety, microbiological and chemical analysis, forensic investigation and information services. Rombout - coffee, coffee filters and biscuits .. Euro only Sofrapain - N/A Industrial automotive engineering Gates - Floormaster - safety flooring made from a special rubber formulation developed by Gates Rubber. Gates - Tredaire - N/A Gates Europe, Gates Formed-Fibre, Gates Mexico, Gates Rubber Company, Gates Rubber Industrial UK - Automotive and heavy duty replacement fan belts, v-belts, hoses, air hose, fluid delivery hoses, welding and steam hoses, Trico wiper blades, replacement windshield washer pumps, belt tension guages, cutting tools, belt sizer.. Schrader-Bridgeport - Automotive Electronics, Tire Valves and Gauges, Fuel Delivery System Components, Air Conditioning Components, Automotive Chassis Components, Engine Management.. Stant Corporation/Stant Group of companies - TRICO® Exact Fit®, Windspoiler®, Winter Blades and Nu-Vision® wiper blades, heavy duty blades, refills and washer pumps. ROBERK® All WeatherT wiper blades and refills. PRE-VENT® fuel caps, locking fuel caps, Swiv-el® radiator caps, Lev-R-Vent® pressure caps, oil filler caps, thermostats, SuperStatT thermostats, heaters, heater parts and specialty cooling products. Grease guns, grease gun accessories, lubricants, Pro-Tuff oil filter wrenches, service and specialty tools. Hose clamps, including full size, small diameter and Micro-Gear, POW'R-GEAR® high performance clamps, and specialty clamps. Air line quick-connect plugs,
[CTRL] Fwd: [patriot] (fwd) [SSN not Required] FW: Tulis pursues no-SSN litigation
Forwarded intact; Scanned with McAfee and Norton antivirus. Note: forwarded message attached. __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com Forwaeded intact; Give these folks credit, they are actually doing something, and have done their homework!! (notice the correct "mailing address") - Original Message - Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 13:44:50 -0600 From: schuetzen - RKBA! Subject: [patriot] (fwd) [SSN not Required] FW: Tulis pursues no-SSN litigation On Tue, 21 Mar 2000 07:08:55 -0800, "Ray Iddings" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thought I would forward this status report along to everybody ... please respond directly to David. ++ -Original Message- From: David and Jeannette Tulis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 20, 2000 08:42 PM To: ... Subject: Tulis pursues no-SSN litigation David Jonathan Tulis c/o 10520 Brickhill Lane Soddy-Daisy, Tennessee 37379 Tel/fax (423) 332-6459 [EMAIL PROTECTED] March 22, 2000 Dear Friend, On March 13, the last day available to sue for judicial review, I filed a petition in chancery court in Davidson County (Nashville) asking that an adverse ruling in a kangaroo court, better known as a judicial hearing, he overturned and that Tennnessee Department of Safety Commissioner Mike Greene be ordered to renew my driver's license, absent a social security number on my renewal slip. A compromise proposal sent a week before had gone unanswered. I believe that an end to this conflict will emerge from the concepts outlined there. I am a religious objector to social security, a Christian who separated myself from social security by a lawful action in recission, and refuse to enter into social security so that driver license officials can have a number on the license renewal blank. My license is said to have "expired" in the course of my legal proceedings against the commissioner over this issue. A petition for writ of mandamus in the matter was recently dismissed. Let me briefly describe the nature of this settlement offer, as it may shed light on how one who has rescinded from social security might view the use by civil authority of his revoked number. U.S. appellate decisions in Bowen v. Roy, 476 U.S. 693 (1986) and Leahy v. District of Columbia, 833 F.2d 1046 (D.C. Cir. 1987), make clear that one cannot have a religious objection to an internal operation of government, such as the color of its filing cabinets or the use or content of its internal records. Tennessee civil authorities my former social security number on file. I may have given an SSN in the late '80s to the Department of Safety. In past years I filed tax returns with the Department of Revenue containing the number. I cannot, under these controlling rulings, have any religious objection to the use of this former number. Such a number is a matter of government record; it is not my property and I have no interest in it. And, in fact, I do not have any religious objection to its use. My constitutionally protected religious objection throughout this conflict has remained consistent. I object to the commissioner's demand that I go out and enter a contractually binding application with social security. Neither can I, under penalty of perjury, present my rescinded social security number, which I stopped using since my December 1996 recission and revocation filing. My proposal was as follows: that the commissioner attach to my renewal form a number of his choosing to make my application for driver's license renewal acceptable to him. He would accept my truthful, good-faith answer to the renewal form's "SSN" question, that answer being "religious objector." By this means the commissioner could be satisfied that he has accomplished his duty in recording a suitable number for the licensee. I am confident of obtaining relief at some point, almost certainly under the Leahy doctrine, which came into play in a similar case in the early 1990s. For all the words I am offering here about the merits of my claim, what matters most is not their efficacy or verity, but the mercy of God on His people. I am throwing myself upon God's providence, knowing that He is my advocate, and that there is no stronghold that He is unable to tear down if He chooses, so that all Israel will roar, as they did when Elijah confronted Ahab on Mount Carmel, "The LORD, He is God! The LORD, He is God!" I am not presuming on the Lord to give me victory. He may consign me to defeat at the hands of infidels and liars. What matters, though, for Christians in such a position as mine, is that we seek God's face with hearts full of love, fear and tenderness, counting our trials as no great matter, and resting in His sweetness and mercy. All Christians who face a
[CTRL] Fwd: [patriot] (fwd) The US Department of Defense's New Antiterrorism Squads- Th
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- Forwarded intact, credit where credit is due. - Original Message - To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [patriot] (fwd) The US Department of Defense's New Antiterrorism Squads- The face of totalitarianism? On Sun, 12 Mar 2000 03:12:17 -0500, Matthew Gaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Department of Defense under the auspices of the recently passed antiterrorism bill have added new DOMESTIC antiterrorism teams. The new units shoulder patch was recently delivered to a friend of mine. You may view the new shoulder patch at: http://www.mccullagh.org/image/otherphotos/terror.html Thanks to Declan Mccullagh for placing the digital photo of the patch on his web site. The patch came to a Freematt's Alerts subscriber, who is a retired police supervisor. The patch came in an unmarked, brown envelope. According to an unnamed military source the patch is of the latest issue (about 8 weeks old). On a related front, Ohio currently is in the process of getting 5 - 50 man anti-terrorist teams to be attached to the Ohio National Guard and stationed in the following areas: Cleveland, Toledo, Cincinnati, Central Ohio (Columbus) and the Akron/Canton/Youngstown area. These units are funded via a separate channel and are not funded by the state government, but rather from a federal antiterrorism fund. It is not clear who they take their orders from. Other National Guardsmen are not being informed of these unit activations, the reason given is the usual "need to Know" excuse. These units have training from and are rotating out of Rangers, Delta (Combat Applications Group), SOCOM, and other 'snake-eater' groups. This has been in the works for the last couple of years. Originally each state was supposed to get one 50 man unit. Ohio requested, and apparently obtained, a total of 5 (250 men total). Other states have at least one 50 man unit with some states getting additional teams as needed or requested. These state groups are not to be confused with the unit that is featured with the above shoulder patch. That apparently is a national or federal antiterrorism team. It should be obvious that everyone should be concerned over the constitutional questions as to the legality of such military teams acting domestically. Of equal concern to me is that due to the cult of secrecy of our military forces, it is very unclear just what role and power these new units have or will have. I'm especially concerned that in an age of decreased domestic terrorism (The US is currently at a 20 year low) the rapid and ill defined expansion of police state groups such as this will cause more domestic incidents such as the bungled raid at Waco. When the only tool you have is a hammer every problem looks like a nail. Longtime Freematt's Alerts subscriber Jim Warren had these comments: Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 15:27:24 -0800 To: Dave Farber [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthew Gaylor) From: Jim Warren [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: JPEG of DOD Anti-Terrorist patch -- WHO'S IN CHARGE?! Subject: JPEG of DOD Anti-Terrorist patch This [shoulder patch] came from a police supervisor on my list. Interesting. Although the shoulder-patch came from a police supervisor, what is MOST interesting about it is that its logo indicates that it is a Dept of DEFENSE patch ... *not* a patch of *civilian* law enforcement -- Dept of Justice, FBI, ATF, etc. Thus, the *real* questions are crucial *Constitutional* questions: 1. Does this patch imply that *domestic* counter-terrorism efforts in the *civilian* sector are now under the direction and control of a *military* task force in the Dept of Defense, rather than under control of *civilian* domestic law enforcement agencies? 2. Are there parallel Anti-Terrorism Task Forces in the *civilian* Dept of Justice (FBI) and perhaps Treasury Dept (ATF)? If so, are they operating separately from the Defense Dept task force -- with likely wasteful redundancy, turf-wars and information-hoarding? Of if they are [hopefully] cooperating, then who the hell is really in charge?! Is the military controlling or making decisions for *civilian* law enforcement? 3. Are the apparently-operational (complete with shoulder-patches) *military* anti-terrorism officers and staff active in *civilian* domestic investigative and/or enforcement activities? If so, are they on their own, or are they under control if *civilian* law enforcement? And -- if not, is this the first step in a military take-over over civilian law enforcement, and/or investigation of American civilians (or is it just one more step in the often-apparent, covert creeping militarism of formerly-civilian law enforcement?!)? Would any of our elected so-called representatives -- presidential or congressional -- *dare* to ask these
[CTRL] A Patriot Christmas (A poem)
-Caveat Lector- A Militia Man's Christmas by Santa Zog 'Twas the night before Christmas, and in the condominium Not a patriot was stirring, not even a Davidian. The duffels were hung by the chimney with care, In hopes that Mark from Michigan soon would be there; The troops were nestled all snug in their beds, While visions of Ruby Ridge danced in their heads; And Linda in her camos and I in my helmet, Had just settled down to sleep for a bit, When out on the lawn there arose such a clamor, I grabbed a revolver and pulled back the hammer. Away to the window I flew to defend My home from the ravenous liberal fiends. The moon on the breast of the new-fallen snow Made it seem like the body of Janet Reno. When, what through my wandering scope should appear, But a miniature troop-carrier, complete with full gear, With a fatigue-clad driver, so lively and sharp, I knew 'twas from Michigan--the guy they called Mark. More rapid than jack-booted thugs did he come, And he ranted and raved and at the mouth he did foam. "Now, U.N.! Now, Clinton! Now Brady and Schroeder! "On, Boutros! On, Hillary! On, New World Order! To the compound at Waco! To the OKC faxes! Now dash away! dash away, all income taxes!" Like liberals, wanting to have one-world rule, At the thought of banning our guns do so drool, So too did Mr. Koernke drive to our door Avoiding the land mines I'd placed there before. And then, in a twinkling, I saw that he'd drawn A Chinese assault weapon right there on my lawn. As I readied a grenade and was turning around, With a fiery cascade, he shot my door down. He was dressed all in green from his cap to his trousers And his clothes were all tarnished with reloading powder. Three Sam Brownes full of ammo were slung on his back, And he looked like Attila getting ready to sack. His eyes--how they twinkled! His mustache how Nazi! His cheeks were like roses, his demeanor so ROTC! His droll little mouth was all set to grin As if a microchip had been emplanted within. The stock of his AK he gripped tight with care As a thin whisp of smoke rose from it through the air. He had a broad face and a little round belly, That shook, when his videos were played on the telly. He was chubby and plump, a right jolly old sort, The kind that would kill government agents for sport. A wink of his eye and a twist of his hairs Suggested to me there was no light on upstairs. He spoke not a word, but went straight to his work And rearmed all our weapons; then turned with a jerk, And laying his finger on his safety release, He reentered the confines of his great armored beast. He turned on the engine and away did he speed, Following street signs that had been secretly keyed. But I heard him exclaim, ere he turned round the corner, "God bless the Republic, and Death to the New World Order!" __ FREE Personalized Email at Mail.com Sign up at http://www.mail.com?sr=mc.mk.mcm.tag001 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Patriot Missiles and President Clinton Shipped to Israel
From the Offices of: Rumor Mill News Agency The Uncensored National Rumor E-mail Address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is There Evidence That A Missile Might Shoot Down Air Force One? Keep Your Friends and Family Off That Plane!! December 11, 1998 Aptos,CA (RMnews)-- President Clinton, leaves an uncertain fate behind as he departs Saturday morning on a trip to Israel. The officially stated reason for the trip is to bolster the faltering Wye River peace accords that were signed by President Netanyahu and Yassar Arafat last month. The peace talks which were held on the Wye River Plantation, about an hour out of Washington, DC, were brokered by President Clinton. When the peace talks ended, it appeared that the President had been successful in bringing peace to the middle east. However, the peace accords starting falling apart the moment they were over. Now President Clinton. In the middle of impeachment hearings, is traveling to Israeli to try to put the peace accords back in place. The President is taking about 20 members of Congress with him to Israel, including 3 Republican moderates who have not yet decided how they will vote on impeachment, and will surely be strong armed on the trip to vote against impeachment. Back in Washington, the Democrats have issued orders that all of the House of Representatives MUST be in Washington for the impeachment vote. Travel, sickness, family emergencies and hospital stays will not matter. All Democratic members have been ordered by the White House to be on the floor for the impeachment vote. A battery of Patriot Missiles has been shipped to Israel and will be in place before the President arrives. Pentagon Spokesman, Ken Bacon, (the same man who authorized release of Linda Tripp's private defense personnel file) was vague on the reason the Patriot missiles were shipped to Israel at this particular time. Does the military or our intelligence agencies have information that the President's plane might be in danger in Israel? Could there be people who believe that Saddam Hussein might try to shoot down Air Force One? And if this kind of intelligence has been released, how can the President's handlers justify his going to Israel at this particular time? RMNews Conspiracy theories: 1. The President never lets anyone know which plane he is going to fly in. At one time, when he was afraid that members of the United States military might sabotage Air force One, he was actually letting a double fly on board AF1 and he was flying in the back-seat of a Navy fighter. Could the President be planning to set up the 3 Republican members of the House, and let them be shot down on Air Force 1? 2. Who else is going to be on board that plane? Are there any potential grand jury witnesses, like Harold Ickes, who are going to be on board? would the crash of the airplane put all the investigations behind him, just like the crash of the Ron Brown plane in Yugoslavia, put all of the Ron Brown investigations behind the President. If Ron Brown had lived, he would surely have provided, according to his own words, evidence that the President had profited from illegal gas line business deals. Ron Brown was also the head of the Democratic National Committee at the time the Chinese money was flowing in. What could Ron Brown have told us about the president's involvement in this? Who is leaving Saturday morning on board Air Force One with the President? Whose voice could be silenced if AF1 is shot down by a missile? 3. The impeachment hearings would be forgotten if AF1 was shot down. 4. Could the President be planning to fake his death and disappear so he doesn't end up in prison or drawn and quartered like the Canadians want to do to him. If you haven't heard about this angle yet, you need to start reading about the Arkansas blood scandal. governor Clinton okayed a scheme to sell tainted prisoner blood to Canada. Now Canadians are contracting Hepatitis C and HIV. They are ready to draw are quarter our President. I wonder what would happen to the President if he visited Canada instead of Israel right now? If the President is afraid that more and more information is about to come out on him that will destroy his reputation in history forever, maybe he is getting ready to fake his death. 5. If the President fakes his death, who will be the major winner? Hillary, of course. The roar of the public will demand that Al Gore appoint her as vice President. Soon the Gore scandals will force President Gore to resign, and then we will have President Hillary. She will be reelected by a landslide in the year 2000. There is virtually nothing that could stop this landslide vote. 6. If the real plan for the Israeli visit is to fake the death of the President so Hillary can become President, then someone better warn Bill to put aside some insurance policies to insure that Hillary doesn't see to it that he death is not faked? In other words, if Hillary is better off with him dead than alive, do you
