Re: [CTRL] Tunnels - GREAT URL
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/8/99 9:11:01 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hiya Robert, Can't say that I'm a Hoagland fan. I believe that there are tunnels for very innocent reasons. But why would we need 5 and 10 mile long tunnels in the middle of no where? There's a 9 mile tunnel in Chama. I've been to Chama. It's dinky little town - there's nothing there. I mean a small town - with a gas pump and that's about it! Now, the southwest is famous for old mines but, I suspect that this isn't an old mining tunnel. It's a little weird. I could ask around and see what the local folk have to say about it. Hilary Hilary, As I recall from running the numbers the Chama NM/CO tunnel is 12.6 miles long and 10.92 feet in diameter. Where it is listed as a BuRec project, I would imagine it has something to do with water...although you never know. If you happen to be in the area sometime, I would be curious as to what the locals say. Up in Idaho in a little town on I-15 between Idaho Falls and the Montana border is a town called Dubois. Just north of Dubois is a large Dept of Agriculture "sheep station." To set the flavor of this picture the Dept of Agriculture station which was used as a cover for a circlular underground lab which worked on viruses and such in the movie Andromeda Strain. When you talk to the folks in Dubois (of which the small community supposedly depends on sheep station money for its small economy) nobody and I mean absolutly NOBODY has any clue what is done, other then to say something about "sheep research."When you ask some locals the question "do you have family that works there?" The answer seems to be "yes, but they don't talk about it" Usually is one newspaper article a year about some sheep this or that and that is the size of it. Then you have the LA County Dept of Corrections (Yup you read it right, Los Angles Calif) BUS that appears in Dubois during the night about twice a year or so. Apparently the bus stays for "a couple of weeks" then it drives off again in the middle of the night. Supposedly nobody knows who the driver is, why the bus is their, or 'who' comes in the bus but they are so used to its appearance that it isn't given a 2nd thought. Probably just as strange as a 12.6 mile tunnel out in the middle of no where. :) Cheers, Robert DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Tunnels - GREAT URL
-Caveat Lector- Robert wrote: As I recall from running the numbers the Chama NM/CO tunnel is 12.6 miles long and 10.92 feet in diameter. Where it is listed as a BuRec project, I would imagine it has something to do with water...although you never know. It's listed as being near the San Juan river so it could have been used, or is still being used, to divert water. This is cattle country. I'm sure many (if not all) of these tunnels are for utility purposes. Though I do question A LOT, I don't see a conspiracy with each and every event. If you happen to be in the area sometime, I would be curious as to what the locals say. Chama is only about 30 minutes from here so, the locals here should know. I'll ask around. Up in Idaho in a little town on I-15 between Idaho Falls and the Montana border is a town called Dubois. Just north of Dubois is a large Dept of Agriculture "sheep station." To set the flavor of this picture the Dept of Agriculture station which was used as a cover for a circular underground lab which worked on viruses and such in the movie Andromeda Strain. Yikes!!! That's nice to have in one's backyard. I used to live near Washington, D.C. and was in the area when there was "that minor incident" with the ebola virus. When you talk to the folks in Dubois (of which the small community supposedly depends on sheep station money for its small economy) nobody and I mean absolutely NOBODY has any clue what is done, other then to say something about "sheep research."When you ask some locals the question "do you have family that works there?" The answer seems to be "yes, but they don't talk about it" Usually is one newspaper article a year about some sheep this or that and that is the size of it. Then you have the LA County Dept of Corrections (Yup you read it right, Los Angles Calif) BUS that appears in Dubois during the night about twice a year or so. Apparently the bus stays for "a couple of weeks" then it drives off again in the middle of the night. Supposedly nobody knows who the driver is, why the bus is their, or 'who' comes in the bus but they are so used to its appearance that it isn't given a 2nd thought. Prisoners have been used as test subjects before. H...that is interesting. Probably just as strange as a 12.6 mile tunnel out in the middle of no where. :) Yeah, it's a little weird and may have a completely reasonable explanation for being there. Things do happen in these small southwest towns. 12 of the 80 some members of the Colorado cult (now dispersed all over the world) came from here. The employer of one of the young women had very nice things to say about her but, that she had seen some changes taking place a year or so before she joined the cult. For reasons of confidentially, I won't go into details. It's typical cult stuff - no big secrets. Hilary DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Tunnels - GREAT URL
Hey all, Pat sent this URL to underground tunnels. It has where and a description of them. It's really interesting!!! http://www.usbr.gov/wcg/tunnels/tdata.html#Colorado Hilary
Re: [CTRL] Tunnels - GREAT URL
-Caveat Lector- Robert wrote: Back in November Hoagland used the web link (except it was to Arizona) as suggested proof that underground activity was happening near turret peak...which allegedly confirmed what his "informants" were telling him. You may remember the furor over the Dec 7th landing date blah blah blah, which when the landing did not happen, was changed to 'well something happened, but it was underground...' snip Hiya Robert, Can't say that I'm a Hoagland fan. I believe that there are tunnels for very innocent reasons. But why would we need 5 and 10 mile long tunnels in the middle of no where? There's a 9 mile tunnel in Chama. I've been to Chama. It's dinky little town - there's nothing there. I mean a small town - with a gas pump and that's about it! Now, the southwest is famous for old mines but, I suspect that this isn't an old mining tunnel. It's a little weird. I could ask around and see what the local folk have to say about it. Hilary DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
