Re: [CTRL] Two Cows (humor)

1999-01-08 Thread Sno0wl

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My vote is for surrealism.which is the system we seem to be
living under. And may explain my general state of contentment, in
spite of what many might consider flaws and lacks in my current
lifestyle.

My giraffe is having a ball.


sno0wl

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Re: [CTRL] Two Cows (humor)

1999-01-08 Thread Source - Richard

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fish.

Sno0wl wrote:
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My vote is for surrealism.which is the system we seem to be
living under. And may explain my general state of contentment, in
spite of what many might consider flaws and lacks in my current
lifestyle.

My giraffe is having a ball.


sno0wl

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Re: [CTRL] [Re: [CTRL] Two Cows (humor)]

1999-01-08 Thread Robert Tatman

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Sno0wl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 My vote is for surrealism.which is the system we seem to be
 living under. And may explain my general state of contentment, in
 spite of what many might consider flaws and lacks in my current
 lifestyle.

 My giraffe is having a ball.

Well, you may be living in the state of Contentment, but I seem to be in the
statement of Confusion, which is next to Indignation and around the corner
from Anxiety...

Bob


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Re: [CTRL] Two Cows (humor)

1999-01-06 Thread nurev

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Gerald Harp wrote:

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 In a message dated 1/5/99 2:03:42 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 writes:

  
CAPITALISM: You have two cows. You sell one and buy a bull.
   

 This single line for capitalism which makes it sound like a right smart system
 while the alternatives are described with multiple sentences and none too
 flatteringly is not well balanced.  I don't know what the right add-on should
 be but as it is, it doesn't account for the ruthless quality of capitalism
 which leaves 41 million Americans below the poverty line.  It is also silent
 about the harsher tone of American capitalism that developed after the fall of
 the Soviet Union.  For the sake of the Russian people and the American people,
 we need Gorbachev back.

 Jerry

Jerry,

I totally agree with your above statement except for the Gorbachev
part.
It was Gorby who started Russia on the path to capitalist destruction.
He is the supreme traitor to his nation. That's why he doesn't live
there
any more. He lives in the Presidio in California.

Joshua2

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Re: [CTRL] Two Cows (humor)

1999-01-06 Thread Che

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At 08:16 PM 1/5/99 EST, Gerald Harp wrote:
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In a message dated 1/5/99 2:03:42 PM Eastern Standard Time,
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   CAPITALISM: You have two cows. You sell one and buy a bull.
  

This single line for capitalism which makes it sound like a right smart
system
while the alternatives are described with multiple sentences and none too
flatteringly is not well balanced.  I don't know what the right add-on should
be but as it is,

Here's my take:

CAPITALISM (PURE  UNBRIDLED): You have two cows. You would like to sell
one and buy a bull, but your neighbor owns all the bulls and isn't selling.
 Your neighbor keeps enlarging his herd, forcing the price of milk down
until you're forced to sell your cows to your neighbor.  Then the price of
milk is raised and your only choice is to go to work for your neighbor for
substinence wages.  Eventually you find yourself living in a shack that
your neighbor owns, shopping in a store your neighbor owns, and in debt up
to your ears to your neighbor. If you think this is feudalism, remember
that you're free to leave, as long as you pay your debts.

CAPITALISM (AMERICAN STYLE): You have two cows. You fill out lots of
paperwork and go in debt to buy the equipment you need to receive USDA
certification.  You can only sell milk at a price set by an arcane
government formula based on your distance from Wisconsin.  Some of the
milk you sell is made into cheese and winds up in a government warehouse.
To compete you buy antibiotics and bovine growth hormone from a large
pharmaceutical corporation.  To enlarge your herd you buy bull sperm from
a large agribusiness.  To feed your herd you buy cattle feed from another
large corporation.  Despite your best efforts you wind up heavily indebted
to the local bank, and your kids move to the city to be something besides
dairy farmers.

CAPITALISM (REIGNED IN BY ADAM SMITH'S MYTHICAL IDEAL "INVISIBLE HAND OF
GOVERNMENT"): You have two cows. You sell one and buy a bull.

Che


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[CTRL] Two Cows (humor)

1999-01-05 Thread KFord74987

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 FEUDALISM: You have two cows. Your lord takes some of the milk.

 PURE SOCIALISM: You have two cows. The government takes them and
 puts them in a barn with everyone else's cows.  You have to take
 care of all the cows.  The government gives you as much milk as
 you need.

 BUREAUCRATIC SOCIALISM: You have two cows. The government takes
 them and puts them in a barn with everyone else's cows. They are
 cared for by exchicken farmers. You have to take care of the
 chickens the government took from the chicken farmers. The
 government gives you as much milk and as many eggs as the
 regulations say you should need.

 FASCISM: You have two cows. The government takes both, hires you
 to take care of them, and sells you the milk.

 PURE COMMUNISM: You have two cows. Your neighbors help you take
 care of them, and you all share the milk.

 RUSSIAN COMMUNISM: You have two cows. You have to take care of
 them, but the government takes all the milk.

 DICTATORSHIP: You have two cows. The government takes both and
 shoots you.

 SINGAPOREAN DEMOCRACY: You have two cows. The government fines
 you for keeping two unlicensed farm animals in an apartment.

 MILITARIANISM: You have two cows. The government takes both and
 drafts you.

 PURE DEMOCRACY: You have two cows. Your neighbors decide who
 gets the milk.

 REPRESENTATIVE DEMOCRACY: You have two cows. Your neighbors pick
 someone to tell you who gets the milk.

 AMERICAN DEMOCRACY: The government promises to give you two cows
 if you vote for it. After the election, the president is
 impeached for speculating in cow futures. The press dubs the
 affair "Cowgate".

 BRITISH DEMOCRACY: You have two cows. You feed them sheeps'
 brains and they go mad. The government doesn't do anything.

 BUREAUCRACY: You have two cows. At first the government
 regulates what you can feed them and when you can milk them.
 Then it pays you not to milk them. After that it takes both,
 shoots one, milks the other and pours the milk down the drain.
 Then it requires you to fill out forms accounting for the
 missing cows..

 ANARCHY: You have two cows. Either you sell the milk at a fair
 price or your neighbors try to kill you and take the cows.

 CAPITALISM: You have two cows. You sell one and buy a bull.

 HONG KONG CAPITALISM: You have two cows. You sell three of them
 to your publicly  listed company, using letters of credit
 opened by your brother  in  law at the bank, then execute a
 debt / equity swap with associated general offer so that you get
 all four cows back, with a tax deduction for keeping five cows.
 The milk rights of six cows are transferred via a Panamanian
 intermediary to a Cayman Islands company secretly owned by the
 majority shareholder, who sells the rights to all seven cows'
 milk back to the listed company.  The annual report says that
 the company owns eight cows, with an option on one more.
 Meanwhile, you kill the two cows because the fung shiu is bad.


 ENVIRONMENTALISM: You have two cows. The government bans you
 from milking or killing them.

 FEMINISM: You have two cows. They get married and adopt a veal
 calf.

 TOTALITARIANISM: You have two cows. The government takes them
 and denies they ever existed. Milk is banned.

 COUNTER CULTURE: Wow, dude, there's like... these two cows, man.
 You got to have some of this milk.

 SURREALISM: You have two giraffes. The government requires you
 to take harmonica lessons.

 LIBERTARIANISM: You have two cows. One has actually read the
 constitution, believes in it, and has some really good ideas
 about government.  The cow runs for office, and while most
 people agree that the cow is the best candidate, nobody except
 the other cow votes for her because they think it would be
 "throwing their vote away."

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Re: [CTRL] Two Cows (humor)

1999-01-05 Thread Gerald Harp

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In a message dated 1/5/99 2:03:42 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:

 
   CAPITALISM: You have two cows. You sell one and buy a bull.
  

This single line for capitalism which makes it sound like a right smart system
while the alternatives are described with multiple sentences and none too
flatteringly is not well balanced.  I don't know what the right add-on should
be but as it is, it doesn't account for the ruthless quality of capitalism
which leaves 41 million Americans below the poverty line.  It is also silent
about the harsher tone of American capitalism that developed after the fall of
the Soviet Union.  For the sake of the Russian people and the American people,
we need Gorbachev back.

Jerry

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Re: [CTRL] Two Cows (humor)

1999-01-05 Thread JoAnne Schmitz

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On Tue, 5 Jan 1999 20:16:25 EST, you, Gerald Harp [EMAIL PROTECTED], wrote:

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In a message dated 1/5/99 2:03:42 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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   CAPITALISM: You have two cows. You sell one and buy a bull.
  

This single line for capitalism which makes it sound like a right smart system
while the alternatives are described with multiple sentences and none too
flatteringly is not well balanced.  I don't know what the right add-on should
be but as it is,

How about just changing the first one to

CAPITALISM:  You have two female slaves.  You sell one and buy a male slave.

-JoAnne, tying two threads together neatly.

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Re: [CTRL] Two Cows (humor)

1999-01-05 Thread Hawk

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Gerald Harp wrote:

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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  
CAPITALISM: You have two cows. You sell one and buy a bull.
   

 This single line for capitalism which makes it sound like a right smart system
 while the alternatives are described with multiple sentences and none too
 flatteringly is not well balanced.

Is there a "balance" between Truth and Error?  What would it be, "Sorta right?"

 I don't know what the right add-on should be but as it is, it doesn't account
 for the ruthless quality of capitalism which leaves 41 million Americans below
 the poverty line.

Capitalism doesn't "leave" anyone below the poverty line.  You pays your money and
you makes your choice.  I've been below the poverty line, and capitalism is what
made it possible for me to rise above it... It sure as hell wasn't welfare!

 It is also silent about the harsher tone of American capitalism that developed
 after the fall of the Soviet Union.  For the sake of the Russian people and the
 American people, we need Gorbachev back.

You're serious?  For your information, Gorbechev IS back... He is lounging in
palatial splendor in the Presidio -- courtesy of the U.S. taxpayer --  just
outside of San Francisco... While your pathetic masses are wallowing in poverty.
Great guy, Gorbechev.. ex-honcho of the Gulag.  Give me a break!

Hawk

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