[CTRL] Unatural Things In Unatural Times
-Caveat Lector- So, No being shall eat another being. Well, that should make 70% of the hindus compliant, and vegetarianism is a fashion for almost all the Christian folks. Man is a higher being, absolutely. Man is an animal, absolutely. Ok man has two eyes and cows too, man has four limbs and cows too, and so on. If one wasnt scientific, then one would find no difference between a pig and a human but for a. Intelligence b. Physical shape. But then science is evil, because it tries to judge Gods creation, so all that remains is intelligence and physical shape. But discerning this very difference is also science. If I believe in a book, then it better tell me how to discern between a cow and a human, else I will apply my skills in observation (science) to do so. Dont get me wrong, the Bible in my interpretation is one of the greatest foundations of religion, culture, human behavior and my idea of what Godliness and God is. But thats what it is, the context is important? Well u use ur email, figure out, could Jesus use it? But does that make one greater than Him? Did He judge the Pagans, like some modern Christians do? 1000 years of dark ages, with priests raping, pillaging, is that what Christianity is about? Absolutely not, they were people, people who judge others. Judging others makes their sins yours, wonder what philosophy this comes from, a good assignment. Also wonder why this is true? Thinking humans should be able to find out. www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- How come so many animals do it...?? Well I suppose if you want to get down to the level of a barnyard animal andact like an animal... sure go ahead, go for it.. and be like a bestialanimal... on the lowest level of existance in the natural order of things.Well now, that description can also apply to what you deem 'natural' sex...I guess you don't go in for that, either, since that too is 'bestial'...And domesticated animals are hardly 'the lowest level of existance in the natural order of things'... sure I have seen animals engage in asexualactivities.. BUT that is an bestial animal.. Well 'bestial animals' also engage in sexual activities; they also drink, eat, defecate, and breathe air; are humans supposed to stop doing the same just because 'bestial animals' also do it?if you try and tell me thatthat is all man is.. you are so full of malarky.. man is much more than ananimal.Of course man (and woman) is more than an animal -- but we are no LESS an animal, either.Personally I like animals; unlike you, I don't mind being compared to them, and actually I feel that the comparison is more insulting to the animal than to the human... ;-)Look at hindus... their concept of God puts animals on the same level asGod.. have ever seen them parade their krishna festivals.. where they paradeelephants, and phalluses.. It seems to me that Christian church steeples are pretty phallic-looking...And every December most Christians make a display of decorated evergreen trees and reindeer and every spring they parade lambs and baby chicks and bunnies and colored eggs (all being ancient, pre-Christian.symbols of fertility) there is an old saying.. YOU BECOME WHAT YOU WORSHIP..you worship an animal.. you will become like one... ITS THAT SIMPLE.And if you worship the ghost of someone executed for treason you become...???And someone wondered why I called Christianity superstition... ;-) you are not only clued out about thenatural order in Gods creation, but you need to get clued in on what thebiblical concept of the Godhead is.Well since God created all things, then ALL of creation contains 'the Godhead', even one-celled organismsabout where the sodomites went to Lots house and demanded to rape the mensent to Lot... it was a mob rule outside lots house.. plain and simple, nodifferent than a lynching party.. interesting how the sodomites never talkabout that part.But apparently it would have been acceptable in the sight of your Lord if the mob accepted Lot's offer to give them one of his daughters to rape, instead...The bottom line is that you have a perfect right to practice your superstition -- but you do NOT have the right to force it on the rest of society.June IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om Click Here
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-Caveat Lector- This will be one for the book, a Vegetarian lion! Bill On Wednesday, Aug 13, 2003, at 18:08 US/Pacific, iNFoWaRZ wrote: Animals will no longer kill and eat each other. www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- At 07:10 PM 8/13/03 , you wrote: -Caveat Lector- How come so many animals do it...?? The biblical answer is simple. At the fall of man, all creation also fell. Including animals. According to scripture, during the Kingdom, after the restoration of all things, all animals and man will live in harmony. Animals will no longer kill and eat each other. Just because animals sometimes engage in queer behavior doesn't mean it's normal, although if you have a worldly view that rejects God then that is the only conclusion available to you. However, the biblical view rejects that and the only conclusion is that it is just another manifestation of the corruption, decay, and entropy of the fall of creation. The wordly view sees things like creatures killing or harming other creatures, queer behavior, and death as normal. The scriptures say that all those things are a curse and not normal. For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God. For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope, Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God. For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now. -Romans 8:19-22 The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them. And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox. And the sucking child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the cockatrice' den. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea. -Isaiah 11:6-9 The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and dust shall be the serpent's meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, saith the LORD. -Isaiah 65:25 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet. The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death. -Corinthians I 15:24 www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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Oh, come on, sex is not a spectator sport. And thanks for changing the thread, it was becoming boring. G*d Bless, Bill On Wednesday, Aug 13, 2003, at 16:10 US/Pacific, RevCOAL wrote: >How come so many animals do it...??
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Are you suggesting that they lean toward being BI_SEXUAL? On Thursday, Aug 14, 2003, at 07:47 US/Pacific, RevCOAL wrote: It seems to me that the homophobes want it both ways
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-Caveat Lector- Oh, come on, sex is not a spectator sport. And thanks for changing the thread, it was becoming boring. G*d Bless, Bill On Wednesday, Aug 13, 2003, at 16:10 US/Pacific, RevCOAL wrote: How come so many animals do it...?? First off, I am not the author of the "How come so many animals do it?" question, I was just responding to an existing thread. Second, for some people sex IS a spectator sport. But my post never said that it was (or was not) a spectator sport, only that humans are the only animals to engage in recreational sex. "Recreational" should not automatically suggest "spectator"... It seems to me that the homophobes want it both ways; first they argue that homosexuality "isn't natural", but when evidence is presented to refute that allegation, they then fall back on their superstitious beliefs and claim that the Bible 'proves' their claim, altho nary a one of them has been able to quote any relevant chapter and verse... One would think that, according to their superstition, since God created all things, then ALL animal behavior is part of God's plan. Perhaps homosexuality is God's "natural" form of birth control... June IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om Click Here
[CTRL] Unatural Things In Unatural Times
-Caveat Lector- How come so many animals do it...?? Well I suppose if you want to get down to the level of a barnyard animal and act like an animal... sure go ahead, go for it.. and be like a bestial animal... on the lowest level of existance in the natural order of things. Hey if you want live like an a bestial animal it shows exactly what mode and level of thinking you identify yourself with... if you do not even understand that there are different orders of creation, you show your lack of understanding indeed... sure I have seen animals engage in asexual activities.. BUT that is an bestial animal.. if you try and tell me that that is all man is.. you are so full of malarky.. man is much more than an animal. Since you chose the lowest common denominator, you label yourself. Putting yourself on the level of a barnyard animal is also addressed in the bible: Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools. And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and four footed beasts, and creeping things. Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleaness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves. romans 1:21-24 Look at hindus... their concept of God puts animals on the same level as God.. have ever seen them parade their krishna festivals.. where they parade elephants, and phalluses.. and all manner of degradation and paganism?? Such corrupt concept of the Godhead plainly exemplifies what these verses are explaining in romans there is an old saying.. YOU BECOME WHAT YOU WORSHIP.. you worship an animal.. you will become like one... ITS THAT SIMPLE. SO .. according to you because bestial animals.. (there is proof enough man is on a much higher plain than a barnyard animal).. engage in such activity.. so should man and woman... you are not only clued out about the natural order in Gods creation, but you need to get clued in on what the biblical concept of the Godhead is. Now for those who continually quote the old testament levitical laws in defense of discrediting the bible.. I hear this continually from Sodomites.. I answer the following NOT to distinguish between the different aspect of the old testament law is folly indeed.. most reformed theologians separate the law into three major categories.. i) moral law ii) ceremonial and dietary levitical laws iii) levitical preisthood laws... The moral law is eternally binding.. the latter two the levitical ceremonial and laws of levitical priesthood have been fulfilled and are not longer binding on man as those old covenant laws have been fulfilled in Christ when he came to earth 2000 years ago... the moral law on the other hand is binding eternally and is yet to find it final consumation in the future also in Christ... the Old Testament levitical laws are NO LONGER BINDING on new testament christians or anybody for that matter, simply because the old covenant levitcal laws have been fulfilled in Christ who was our high priest forever... see the book of hebrews on this.. if you do not believe me.. I am not making this up... So for those sodomites and pagans who like to point out these old testament levitical laws.. saying we should keep them also.. betrays their ignorance of Gods covenants.. as well as the fact they do NOT have a clue about what God has fulfilled and not fulfilled. Old Testament sabaths.. feast days and ceremonial levitical laws were only binding on the jewish nation in the old testament.. those laws have been fulfilled in Christ.. we no longer need the shadow of those levitical laws which pointed to Christ. The moral law on the other hand is still binding on all men.. whether they are christians or not... every single one of the 10 commandment (except the jewish saturday sabath) was repeated in the new testament under the commandments of Christ... I can post the comparison if you like.. Now, as to your last point.. Then how come most heterosexuals never thought twice about it, one way or the other, until the Christians came along? Actually it was the law of Moses that pointed out sin and what sin actually was, but nevertheless, man knew instinctual in his heart even before that morally what was sin.. sin existed before the law of Moses was given, as did mans conscience knowing the difference between right and wrong so your comment is very misinformed and denies the facts of human history... it was not Christians who started saying the sodomy was unatural and from the pit of hell... and NO sodom and gomorrahs sin was not inhospitality, as so many sodomites claim.. what a bunch of rubbish to say such.. if you believe that.. either you did not read the account of sodom and gomorrah .. all of it.. or you have a sodomite translation of the bible that cut out the part
