Re: [CTRL] carry on up the frequencies

1999-12-20 Thread sno0wl

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On 17 Dec 99, at 13:29, Andrew Hennessey wrote:

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 WHY is there a NEW LOONEY RELIGION made to order by the ESTABLISHMENT
 by Andrew Hennessey

 I have been holding fire for a while now listening to the new doctrine
 of Ascension - trying to take the various concepts to their natural
 extremes in order to map out the ways this scene could evolve - and I
 have been a bit troubled by the results of what I have learnt from
 various practitioners.

 The idea sounds lovely - Earth is moving up through the frequencies
 and everything bad will be left behind because they didn't inwardly
 deserve to come. Great idea ? .. well no actually.

 In answers to questions like . how many are moving up - the
 answers vary from a small band to a couple of billion - and all the
 billions of people not ready will be left behind - and if you get left
 behind its all your own fault because You Create Your Own Reality. If
 you get ill and have a disease for instance - it simply means that
 your soul is not too spiritual at this time and has a dis-ease with
 the cosmos and therefore the illness is your fault.

If it makes you feel any better, Andrew, I noticed this, too. In spite
of all the folks focused on Ascension and all the "lightworkers," I've
found the internet to be rather daunting in terms of the spiritual life.
I mean, consider the Holocaust in terms of "Create Your Own
Reality." It's worse than revisionism. (Although the wonderful movie,
"Life is Beautiful" may be a case in point.)

I mean, how can folks who can't operate spiritually in the 3rd
dimension even begin to imagine that they could function in the 5th?


sno0wl

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[CTRL] carry on up the frequencies

1999-12-16 Thread Andrew Hennessey

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WHY is there a NEW LOONEY RELIGION made to order by the ESTABLISHMENT
by Andrew Hennessey

I have been holding fire for a while now listening to the new doctrine of
Ascension - trying to take the various concepts to their natural extremes
in order to map out the ways this scene could evolve - and I have been a
bit troubled by the results of what I have learnt from various practitioners.

The idea sounds lovely - Earth is moving up through the frequencies and
everything bad will be left behind because they didn't inwardly deserve to
come.
Great idea ? .. well no actually.

In answers to questions like . how many are moving up - the answers
vary from a small band to a couple of billion - and all the billions of
people not ready will be left behind - and if you get left behind its all
your own fault because You Create Your Own Reality.
If you get ill and have a disease for instance - it simply means that your
soul is not too spiritual at this time and has a dis-ease with the cosmos
and therefore the illness is your fault.

If you get shot, killed, robbed, stabbed - all your own fault because YOU
create Your own reality - You spiritually wanted to be the Victim really.
If you have any doubts about how beautiful and true this truth is - that's
because You have a disease.

Well I researched people like ms Stevenson - who says that You create your
own reality.
She says that one person might look at a view, say of a river flowing
through a town, and say - god what a horrible day
and the other 'healthier and spiritual' person will look at the same view
and say what a lovely day it is - and I'm glad to be alive and everything
is beautiful.

That spiritual person leads the healthier life through positive thinking -
they effectively create their own reality.

well no  that's where I differ - ask the spiritual person to take a
drink of the town river - partake of the beautiful day - and well, if they
get a mouthful of sewage - its their fault for being spiritually impure.
Starving in Africa  . well they karmically deserve it - obviously -

We may try our best to create our own reality but we all know its a two way
process - we interact with larger realities that try to create us.
That process of reality is common knowledge in biology the science of life
- where we are born with our genes - our 'Genotype', but the world changes
us and makes us different from what our genes are trying to say - then we
become the 'Phenotype'
We may try to create our own reality - but the world will try to create us !!

What's going on then . well it gets even more interesting when these
new priests and priestesses start to talk about the mayan calender,
frequencies and earth changes 2012 ad - when humanity moves up to the
wonderful 5th dimension where there is some great pie to be had in the sky.
never mind the horrible third dimension - its grotty and we're all moving on !

Oh really ?? you mean that when the earth crust shifts and storms and crap
happens 4 billion people [aka useless eaters in NWO parlance] are going to
die.

No, No, not die, live on wonderfully in bliss - is the reply.

Yes I say - I know that human beings have eternal 'souls' and am very ok
about my personal indefinite future - or, even if I wasn't that's NOT THE
POINT !!!

The POINT is its  ***HOW***  WE DIE that matters.

4 Billion people may die in a very horrible way.

Is this NWO earth changes channelly - CARRY ON up the frequencies, stuff
trying to prepare 4 Billion [useless] people for NECESSARY DEATH ???

We must look positively brother andrew - the angels will sing etc etc etc etc

No - its NOT NECESSARY THAT 4 BILLION PEOPLE DIE [BADLY] in mud rubble and
tidal waves, cold and drowned, crushed and maimed.

There are Underground Civilisations, bases, stockpiles, off world colonies,
ET deals, freighters, cargo ships, shuttles, colonies etc etc etc
all built with OUR sweat and Blood - and now that we've all done our bit
we must all sit and smile benignly at each other as we get wiped out by
tidal waves and tremors.

This new NWO RELIGION 'Carry On up the Frequencies' stuff in the best
tradition of Farce and Comedy is an opiate for the intellectual masses -
those reject intellectuals [like me] that will never make it to the steel
doors of the big underground cities -

Dying is as easy as casting off your overcoat - yep that may be - but I
would like to put my overcoat on a dignified hangar before I left it behind.

Andrew Hennessey

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Re: [CTRL] carry on up the frequencies

1999-12-16 Thread James Hayman

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Andrew Hennessey wrote:

 WHY is there a NEW LOONEY RELIGION made to order by the ESTABLISHMENT
 by Andrew Hennessey

 In answers to questions like . how many are moving up - the answers vary from a 
small band to a couple of billion - and all the billions of people not ready will be 
left behind - and if you get left behind its all your own fault because You Create 
Your Own Reality.

   One can always hope that those who employ these means will
have the same results Jimmy Carter did with his malaise speech.
It seems to have the same resonance doesn't it?

   Jim

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