Re: [CTRL] Suicide Hijacker Alive And Well In Jeddah
-Caveat Lector- Well if we needed proof that our Intelligence lacked intelligence I guess this is it. Prudy A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Suicide Hijacker Alive And Well In Jeddah
-Caveat Lector- The technique of using the identity papers of real people was mentioned by William Pepper in his book about the MLK assassination. http://roswell.fortunecity.com/angelic/96/ripmas~1.htm *** He [James Earl Ray] was extradited to the United States and placed in a cell from July 19 until March 10, 1969. For ten months, Ray was watched 24 hours a day and every word of his to the outside world was monitored. As in the case of Lee Harvey Oswald, he had been convicted in the media and could not have received a fair trial. It must also be recalled that Ray, from the time he allegedly rented the room in Memphis until his arrest in London, used a series of aliases such as Eric Galt, John Willard, Ramon George Sneyd and Paul Bridgeman. Much to his credit , Pepper tracked down each of these names until we find that an Eric Galt did exist--and worked on US defense contracts--at Union Carbide in Toronto (where Ray fled after the assassination). Galt had a top secret security clearance. ***[According to Pepper, the clearance is what kept him mobile because his movements did not alert intelligence inquiries about his travel.] Pepper presents the following analysis: There could no longer be any doubt that the chief prosecution witness had been drunk and unable to observe anything... Somehow he [Dr. King] had been mysteriously moved from a secluded ground-level courtyard room to a highly exposed balcony room...As a result of observations...it appears conclusive that the fatal shot was fired from the brush area and not from the bathroom [at the rooming house] There were increasing indications that members of the Liberto family at least in Memphis and New Orleans were implicated in the killing (pp.230-231). These remarks appear near the middle of the book. Pepper then traces these persons and events to their final conclusions and flatly asserts that Ray was not the killer, but rather that an elaborate conspiracy existed to assassinate MLK. If he wasn't the killer, who was James Earl Ray? Why did he use the name of Eric Galt, an actual person with a government security clearance? Where was Ray at the exact moment that King was murdered? Was he a patsy, as Pepper claims? Indeed there are points in the book where Pepper seems unable to remove himself from the narrative and his research. He is convinced that there has been a friendly and quite comfortable accommodation between US intelligence agencies and crooks. This is not a new concept to JFK researchers and is hard to doubt given our present understanding of the FBI and CIA's domestic and foreign policy operations of the 1960s. -Original Message- From: Samantha L. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, September 16, 2001 11:56 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Suicide Hijacker Alive And Well In Jeddah -Caveat Lector- Could the hijackers have been CIA mind control assassins using specific Arab person's ID's as cover? I wonder how many (if any) other names turn out to be people still living, or people recently deceased under unusual circumstances. The hijackers could also be Bin Laden's people who adopted Arab people's ID's as cover, of course. It occurs to me there are only two types of people willling/able to commit suicide in acts like these - genuine jihad soldiers and MC assassins. Samantha In a message dated 9/16/01 7:11:32 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Subj: [CTRL] Suicide Hijacker Alive And Well In Jeddah Date:9/16/01 7:11:32 PM Central Daylight Time From:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Shannon) Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Conspiracy Theory Research List) Reply-to:A HREF=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED];[EMAIL PROTECTED] /A (Conspiracy Theory Research List) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] A HREF=http://news.independent.co.uk/World/; http://news.independent.co.uk/World//A 'Suicide hijacker' is an airline pilot alive and well in Jeddah Suspects By Robert Fisk in Beirut 17 September 2001A man named by the US Department of Justice as a suicide hijacker of American Airlines flight 11 the first airliner to smash into the World Trade Centre is very much alive and living in Jeddah. Abdulrahman al-Omari, a pilot with Saudi Airlines, was astonished to find himself accused of hijacking as well as being dead and has visited the US consulate in Jeddah to demand an explanation. None has so far been forthcoming. It is possible that the hijacker adopted Mr al-Omari's identity but, if he had been using the same false name while training as a pilot in the US, he would presumably have been uncovered. That is not the only error on the list of hijackers. The name of Ziad Jarrah identified as the pilot-hijacker of United Airlines flight 93, which crashed in Pennsylvania was misspelt Jarrahi. He was a Lebanese whose family, living in the Bekaa Valley, spoke to him just two days before his death but who still refuse to believe that he
Re: [CTRL] Suicide Hijacker Alive And Well In Jeddah
-Caveat Lector- Perhaps it is just a case of someone just happening to have the same name; the name could be the Arabic equivalent of John Smith... June === Check out Alternative Kite Radio at http://www.altkiteradio.trancetechno.com Alternative Kite Radio (low-bandwidth) Alternative Kite Radio (high-bandwidth) Alternative Kite Summer Beachparty Radio (it's always summer somewhere) Alternative Kite Holiday Radio (everyday's a holiday) === A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Suicide Hijacker Alive And Well In Jeddah
-Caveat Lector- Could the hijackers have been CIA mind control assassins using specific Arab person's ID's as cover? I wonder how many (if any) other names turn out to be people still living, or people recently deceased under unusual circumstances. The hijackers could also be Bin Laden's people who adopted Arab people's ID's as cover, of course. It occurs to me there are only two types of people willling/able to commit suicide in acts like these - genuine jihad soldiers and MC assassins. Samantha In a message dated 9/16/01 7:11:32 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Subj: [CTRL] Suicide Hijacker Alive And Well In Jeddah Date:9/16/01 7:11:32 PM Central Daylight Time From:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Shannon) Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Conspiracy Theory Research List) Reply-to:A HREF=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED];[EMAIL PROTECTED] /A (Conspiracy Theory Research List) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] A HREF=http://news.independent.co.uk/World/; http://news.independent.co.uk/World//A 'Suicide hijacker' is an airline pilot alive and well in Jeddah Suspects By Robert Fisk in Beirut 17 September 2001A man named by the US Department of Justice as a suicide hijacker of American Airlines flight 11 the first airliner to smash into the World Trade Centre is very much alive and living in Jeddah. Abdulrahman al-Omari, a pilot with Saudi Airlines, was astonished to find himself accused of hijacking as well as being dead and has visited the US consulate in Jeddah to demand an explanation. None has so far been forthcoming. It is possible that the hijacker adopted Mr al-Omari's identity but, if he had been using the same false name while training as a pilot in the US, he would presumably have been uncovered. That is not the only error on the list of hijackers. The name of Ziad Jarrah identified as the pilot-hijacker of United Airlines flight 93, which crashed in Pennsylvania was misspelt Jarrahi. He was a Lebanese whose family, living in the Bekaa Valley, spoke to him just two days before his death but who still refuse to believe that he was involved. Mr al-Omari's first name Abdulrahman was later given out by the US authorities as Abdulaziz but there can be little doubt that it referred to the pilot who lives in Jeddah. The Americans described him as a father of four and Mr al-Omari does have four children, all of whom live with him and his family in Saudi Arabia's second city. He has refused to talk to reporters and in the words of one prominent Saudi journalist is one nervous guy. A HREF=http://news.independent.co.uk/World/; http://news.independent.co.uk/World//A 'Suicide hijacker' is an airline pilot alive and well in Jeddah Suspects By Robert Fisk in Beirut 17 September 2001A man named by the US Department of Justice as a suicide hijacker of American Airlines flight 11 the first airliner to smash into the World Trade Centre is very much alive and living in Jeddah. Abdulrahman al-Omari, a pilot with Saudi Airlines, was astonished to find himself accused of hijacking as well as being dead and has visited the US consulate in Jeddah to demand an explanation. None has so far been forthcoming. It is possible that the hijacker adopted Mr al-Omari's identity but, if he had been using the same false name while training as a pilot in the US, he would presumably have been uncovered. That is not the only error on the list of hijackers. The name of Ziad Jarrah identified as the pilot-hijacker of United Airlines flight 93, which crashed in Pennsylvania was misspelt Jarrahi. He was a Lebanese whose family, living in the Bekaa Valley, spoke to him just two days before his death but who still refuse to believe that he was involved. Mr al-Omari's first name Abdulrahman was later given out by the US authorities as Abdulaziz but there can be little doubt that it referred to the pilot who lives in Jeddah. The Americans described him as a father of four and Mr al-Omari does have four children, all of whom live with him and his family in Saudi Arabia's second city. He has refused to talk to reporters and in the words of one prominent Saudi journalist is one nervous guy. --- Headers Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from lmailaol1.sysops.aol.com (lmailaol1.aol.com [152.163.225.33]) by air-ya01.mail.aol.com (v80.17) with ESMTP id MAILINYA13-0916201132; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 20:11:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.AOL.COM by lmailaol1.sysops.aol.com (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 16 Sep 2001 20:11:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.AOL.COM by LISTSERV.AOL.COM (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 984237 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 20:11:33 -0400 Received: from imo-r04.mx.aol.com (imo-r04.mail.aol.com
