Re: [CTRL] Santa Claus. Christ hates xmas
-Caveat Lector- Jah, The Greek word is Nikolaitians which in my opinion could refer to the Nikola Tesla's patents that were used to build the HAARP and the Soviets' Woodpecker. Christ hates mind control. Or maybe even Nikolai Lenin the creator of oppresive communism. Or Jack Nicholas? Golf is an evil thing YOU don't know what it means, anymore than the rest of us do. It's all just speculation. But I do know this: "One man considers one day more sacred than another; another man considers every day alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind. He who regards one day as special, does so to the Lord." Romans 14:5-6 I celebrate Christmas as a celebration of the birth of Jesus, not for some pagan god I know nothing about; therefore it IS holy, no matter what day He was actually born. Stop forcing your misinterpretations of the Bible on us. Peace be on YOU! Pennie Jah wrote: Christ says he HATES, in the Holy Bible, in Apocalypse/Revelation 2:6, 15, where the Nicolaitanes, whose doctrine Christ hates, are the followers of Santa (Ni)-Claus, __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Santa Claus. Christ hates xmas
-Caveat Lector- Thank you Pennie, You wrote to JAH Stop forcing your misinterpretations of the Bible on us. I will second that. And also JAH stop inciting those of us who know better. eagle 1 - Original Message - From: pennie hammons [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 1999 2:10 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Santa Claus. Christ hates xmas -Caveat Lector- Jah, The Greek word is Nikolaitians which in my opinion could refer to the Nikola Tesla's patents that were used to build the HAARP and the Soviets' Woodpecker. Christ hates mind control. Or maybe even Nikolai Lenin the creator of oppresive communism. Or Jack Nicholas? Golf is an evil thing YOU don't know what it means, anymore than the rest of us do. It's all just speculation. But I do know this: "One man considers one day more sacred than another; another man considers every day alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind. He who regards one day as special, does so to the Lord." Romans 14:5-6 I celebrate Christmas as a celebration of the birth of Jesus, not for some pagan god I know nothing about; therefore it IS holy, no matter what day He was actually born. Stop forcing your misinterpretations of the Bible on us. Peace be on YOU! Pennie Jah wrote: Christ says he HATES, in the Holy Bible, in Apocalypse/Revelation 2:6, 15, where the Nicolaitanes, whose doctrine Christ hates, are the followers of Santa (Ni)-Claus, DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Santa Claus. Christ hates xmas
Dear Terry Cox, Not only is Santa (anagram for Satan) Claus not christian, Christ stated in The Bible that he HATES it:- X-MASS - YULETIDE A PAGAN FESTIVAL (which is actually condemned by Christ) CHRIST'S OPINION of SANTA CLAUS and YULETIDE, as expressed by HIS ANGEL, to HIS APOSTLE JOHN, in THE APOCALYPSE, Chapter 2. Xmas has absolutely nothing to do with God. It was originally called Yuletide, which is a pagan festival from the Babylonian Mystery religion of SUN worship. The Babylonians were merchants (they were the originators of the "Market-system" which is condemned by God) and they used Yuletide to sell their merchandise because, like today, it made them lots of money. Then in the first century A.D. Simon (the Sorcerer) Pater (NOT Peter) stole the name christian, mixed it with the Babylonian Mystery religion and formed a new religion called christianity, that teaches the opposite of what Christ taught, and has SUNdays as its sabbath days, due to its SUN-god worshipping origins (Galatians 1:6-9; 2:4). Simon Pater NOT Simon Peter (Cephas) started the fake religion called "christianity" (Acts 8:9-25). Christ's TRUE followers or disciples called themselves "Followers of The Way" or "Those True to The Covenant" (Nazrim ha-Brit), NOT christians.SUNday is the FIRST day of the week, NOT the Sabbath which is the SEVENTH day; on which God rested. This "so-called" christianity perverted the teachings of Christ and incorporated their pagan rituals, in their temples, which have as their focal point a "Tower of Babel" (from which the word Babylon is derived) in which were babbling-bells. This is directly opposed to the true teaching of Christ who says that YOU must NOT go to church (Matthew 6:5-6 where synagogue means all churches). They also hijacked the virgin-birth and moved it from April to December 25th to coincide with their own Yuletide festival, which Christ says he HATES, in the Holy Bible, in Apocalypse/Revelation 2:6, 15, where the Nicolaitanes, whose doctrine Christ hates, are the followers of Santa (Ni)-Claus, who celebrate Yuletide (and Easter [Ishtar] a god of fertility - eggs are the symbol of fertility not crucifixion). Verse 6: But this thou hast (in thy favour), that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitanes which I (Christ) ALSO HATE.Verse 15: So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitanes (the followers of St.Nicholas - Santa Claus), which thing I (Christ) HATE.The Nicolaitans celebrate Yule-tide (Christmas now) and Santa Claus (st. Nicholas) and decorate trees with silver, which thing Christ HATES, because it is Satanic and NOT from God or Christ, as he makes perfectly clear in the verses above.SANTA CLAUS WEARS SCARLET which Christ has told us is SATAN'S COLOUR (see Revelations chapter 12 verses 3+9 - the great RED dragon - SATAN). SANTA CLAUS is an anagram for SATAN.SATAN LUCAS/LUCIFER - THE DEVIL.There is nothing Godly about Christmas and Christ HATES it; so how can christians celebrate it? Who taught them to do so? Certianly NOT Christ or his apostles.A true Christian would be one who follows Christ's Way, does what He did, loves what He loved and hates what he hates - he would not imagine or theorize on what Christ would like or not like.The "Virgin-birth" was in Spring at the time of birth and The Passover, when "lambs" were being born. It was NOT in December, the seasonal time of death.The virgin-birth was actually in April, with new-born lambs in the fields, just like the Second Coming.The fact that the three kings came to pay homage, and brought gifts of great wealth, was used by Satan to give, to those who perverted the teaching, the idea to continue and even increase the sales of their merchandise (a great marketing-exercise for them). So the virgin-birth was hijacked and corrupted into a time to make lots of money, using the ultimate in "high-pressure sales techniques", which was to falsely use God's Son's name, in order to embarass people, who couldn't afford to buy gifts, to go into debt or steal in order to buy their merchandise. By doing this the rich merchants ruin the lives of the poor, driving them further into debt and poverty or crime, whilst making themselves richer and richer. It is WRONG and EVIL from every angle. The original gifts were from rich kings to the "supposedly" poor - from the rich to the Son of God. There is absolutely NO Biblical precedent or teaching that supports giving gifts to human children. The merchants have turned it all backwards and made it the opposite, where the poor give money to the rich. They have done this because it and they are Satanically inspired. Satan is a Hebrew word that means "the Opposer" - someone who does and says the OPPOSITE of what God says, telling and teaching others to do the
Re: [CTRL] Santa Claus. Christ hates xmas
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 11/15/99 4:14:56 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Christ says he HATES, in the Holy Bible Howdy sir, please discontinue your religious diatribes. Excessive personal beliefs are not research, but a matter of faith. In MHO, Jesus aka The Christ speech is not recorded in Revalations, anyway Om K - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Santa Claus. Christ hates xmas
-Caveat Lector- I liked it very much. Excellent text! Thanks! On Mon, 15 Nov 1999 22:56:51 -, JAH Publications wrote: CHRIST'S OPINION of SANTA CLAUS and YULETIDE, as expressed by HIS ANGEL, to HIS APOSTLE JOHN, in THE APOCALYPSE, Chapter 2. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Santa Claus. Christ hates xmas
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 11/15/99 8:08:56 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Christ says he HATES, in the Holy Bible Howdy sir, please discontinue your religious diatribes. Excessive personal beliefs are not research, but a matter of faith. In MHO, Jesus aka The Christ speech is not recorded in Revalations, anyway Om K Well, you have it from the man himself. I have already warned you once of this inappropriate posting to the CTRL list and asked you to refrain from religious discussion that does not involve conspiracy theory, and have warned you to not attempt proselytization on this list. The list owner has stepped in here to warn again, and I concur. ** *** "Welcome to the desert of the real." Morpheus, "The Matrix". "The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of seas of infinity, and it is not meant that we should voyage far. The sciences, each straining in its own direction, have hitherto harmed us little; but someday the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the deadly light into the peace and safety of a new dark age." H.P.Lovecraft; "The Call of Cthulhu" DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Santa Claus. Christ hates xmas
On Mon, 15 Nov 1999, JAH Publications wrote: Not only is Santa (anagram for Satan) Claus You are an idiot. "Santa" is Latin for "Saint". As in "Santa Maria", "Santa Barbera", "Santiago" (San Diego)... Are THOSE all anagrams for satan, too? Xmas has absolutely nothing to do with God. It was originally called Yuletide, which is a pagan festival from the Babylonian Mystery religion of SUN worship. Actually, the holiday called "Yule" or "Jul" is a northern European pagan festival, not Babylonian... But the northern European pagans were not unique...at the time of Christ, almost all cultures of the northern hemisphere had some sort of festival at the time of the shortest day of the year churches). They also hijacked the virgin-birth and moved it from April to December 25th Almost all Biblical scholars agree that Christ's birth would have been in autumn, not spring...in which case, He conceivably was conceived on or about December 25th... Christ says he HATES, in the Holy Bible, in Apocalypse/Revelation 2:6, 15, where the Nicolaitanes, whose doctrine Christ hates, are the followers of Santa (Ni)-Claus, Considering that Saint Nicholas, from which we get the corruption "Santa Claus", wasn't born until centuries after Christ's death, Christ could hardly have preached against him... Verse 15: So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitanes (the followers of St.Nicholas - Santa Claus), which thing I (Christ) HATE. Again, how could Christ have preached against Saint Nicholas (a Saint of Christ's very own religion), when Saint Nicholas wouldn't even be born for a couple of more centuries? SANTA CLAUS WEARS SCARLET So does the Pope. But actually, a scarlet suit is only Thomas Nast's invention of the 1880s...prior to his popular drawings, Santa Claus was usually depicted as a Catholic Saint, in white robe and mitre, or as a 'jolly old elf' in vaguely Germanic mountain dress, which was rarely red SANTA CLAUS is an anagram for SATAN. SATAN LUCAS/LUCIFER - THE DEVIL. Then you are saying that all saints are satan, because 'santa' is Latin for 'saint'... The "Virgin-birth" was in Spring at the time of birth and The Passover, when "lambs" were being born. Except lambs WEREN'T being born at that time. We are told that the shepherds were out in the fields with the flock, something they wouldn't have done if it was lambing season. The shepherds brought the herds back to town in winter, and didn't bring them out to the fields until AFTER lambing in the spring... In the heat of summer, they moved the flocks up into the hills and mountains, where it was cooler, the grass didn't dry up like it did down in the fields, and the water was plentiful. They moved the flocks back down to the fields in autumn... People didn't travel in spring, either, when the roads were muddy at best from melting snow and spring rains -- that is, if the road wasn't washed out completely...neither would they travel in summer, if they could avoid it, due to the heat and lack of water...travel, especially with a pregnant women, would have been undertaken in the autumn or winter... Herod gave his subjects up to a year to report to their places of birth for the census, so Joseph and Mary would have waited until the beginning of autumn to travel to Bethlehem, when both the roads and the weather were good, and would not have risked traveling in the spring, when the weather and the roads were bad It was NOT in December, the seasonal time of death. And rebirth. And indeed, is not THAT the message of Christ? The virgin-birth was actually in April, with new-born lambs in the fields, just like the Second Coming. Lambs were never born in the fields, where it would be too difficult to protect them from predators, rather they were born when the flocks were stabled in town...the flocks were only brought out to the fields well AFTER lambing, when the lambs were strong enough to keep up with the flock... But the shepherds didn't KEEP the flocks in the fields in spring, because the fields would have been more mud than grass...rather they just used the fields to pass thru on their way to taking the flocks to the hills...the only time shepherds 'slept with their flocks in the field' was in autumn, when they had brought the flocks down from the hills, and before they brought the flocks within the town gates for winter... inspired. Satan is a Hebrew word that means "the Opposer" I believe it means "the accuser", quite a different thing... June ;-) *===* If we listened to our intellect, we'd never have a love affair. We'd never have a friendship. We'd never go into business, because we'd be cynical. Well, that's nonsense. You've got to jump off cliffs all the time and build your wings on the way down. ---Ray Bradbury
Re: [CTRL] Santa Claus. Christ hates xmas
-Caveat Lector- On Mon, 15 Nov 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, you have it from the man himself. I have already warned you once of this inappropriate posting to the CTRL list and asked you to refrain from religious discussion that does not involve conspiracy theory, and have warned you to not attempt proselytization on this list. The list owner has stepped in here to warn again, and I concur. As do I. Proselytizing is bad enough, but doubly so when it's composed of diatribes consisting of negligible research and shoddy Biblical scholarship. June ;-) *===* If we listened to our intellect, we'd never have a love affair. We'd never have a friendship. We'd never go into business, because we'd be cynical. Well, that's nonsense. You've got to jump off cliffs all the time and build your wings on the way down. ---Ray Bradbury *===* *---* revcoal AT connix DOT com *---* It is UNLAWFUL to send unsolicited commercial email to this email address per United States Code Title 47 Sec. 227. I assess a fee of $500.00 US currency for reading and deleting such unsolicited commercial email. Sending such email to this address denotes acceptance of these terms. My posting messages to Usenet neither grants consent to receive unsolicited commercial email nor is intended to solicit commercial email. ** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
