Re: [CTRL] Unatural Things In Unatural Times

2003-08-14 Thread RevCOAL
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How come so many animals do it...?? Well I suppose if you want to get down to the level of a barnyard animal andact like an animal... sure go ahead, go for it.. and be like a bestialanimal... on the lowest level of existance in the natural order of things.Well now, that description can also apply to what you deem 'natural' sex...I guess you don't go in for that, either, since that too is 'bestial'...And domesticated animals are hardly 'the lowest level of existance in the natural order of things'... sure I have seen animals engage in asexualactivities.. BUT that is an bestial animal.. Well 'bestial animals' also engage in sexual activities; they also drink, eat, defecate, and breathe air; are humans supposed to stop doing the same just because 'bestial animals' also do it?if you try and tell me thatthat is all man is.. you are so full of malarky.. man is much more than ananimal.Of course man (and woman) is more than an animal -- but we are no LESS an animal, either.Personally I like animals; unlike you, I don't mind being compared to them, and actually I feel that the comparison is more insulting to the animal than to the human... ;-)Look at hindus... their concept of God puts animals on the same level asGod.. have ever seen them parade their krishna festivals.. where they paradeelephants, and phalluses.. It seems to me that Christian church steeples are pretty phallic-looking...And every December most Christians make a display of decorated evergreen trees and reindeer and every spring they parade lambs and baby chicks and bunnies and colored eggs (all being ancient, pre-Christian.symbols of fertility) there is an old saying.. YOU BECOME WHAT YOU WORSHIP..you worship an animal.. you will become like one... ITS THAT SIMPLE.And if you worship the ghost of someone executed for treason you become...???And someone wondered why I called Christianity superstition... ;-) you are not only clued out about thenatural order in Gods creation, but you need to get clued in on what thebiblical concept of the Godhead is.Well since God created all things, then ALL of creation contains 'the Godhead', even one-celled organismsabout where the sodomites went to Lots house and demanded to rape the mensent to Lot... it was a mob rule outside lots house.. plain and simple, nodifferent than a lynching party.. interesting how the sodomites never talkabout that part.But apparently it would have been acceptable in the sight of your Lord if the mob accepted Lot's offer to give them one of his daughters to rape, instead...The bottom line is that you have a perfect right to practice your superstition -- but you do NOT have the right to force it on the rest of society.June







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Re: [CTRL] Unatural Things In Unatural Times

2003-08-14 Thread Bill Howard
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This will be one for the book, a Vegetarian lion!

Bill
On Wednesday, Aug 13, 2003, at 18:08 US/Pacific, iNFoWaRZ wrote:
Animals will no longer kill and eat each other.
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Re: [CTRL] Unatural Things In Unatural Times

2003-08-14 Thread iNFoWaRZ
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At 07:10 PM 8/13/03 , you wrote:
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 How come so many animals do it...??
 


The biblical answer is simple.
At the fall of man, all creation also fell.
Including animals.
According to scripture, during the Kingdom, after the restoration of all things, all 
animals and man will live in harmony. Animals will no longer kill and eat each other.
Just because animals sometimes engage in queer behavior doesn't mean it's normal, 
although if you have a worldly view that rejects God then that is the only conclusion 
available to you.  However, the biblical view rejects that and the only conclusion is 
that it is just another manifestation of the corruption, decay, and entropy of the 
fall of creation.
The wordly view sees things like creatures killing or harming other creatures, queer 
behavior, and death as normal.  The scriptures say that all those things are a curse 
and not normal.

For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons 
of God. For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of 
him who hath subjected the same in hope, Because the creature itself also shall be 
delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of 
God. For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together 
until now.
-Romans 8:19-22

The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; 
and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall 
lead them. And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down 
together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox. And the sucking child shall play 
on the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the cockatrice' 
den. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be 
full of the knowledge of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea.
-Isaiah 11:6-9

The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the 
bullock: and dust shall be the serpent's meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all 
my holy mountain, saith the LORD.
-Isaiah 65:25

Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the 
Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. For he must 
reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
-Corinthians I 15:24

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Re: [CTRL] Unatural Things In Unatural Times

2003-08-14 Thread Bill Howard
Oh, come on, sex is not a spectator sport. And thanks for changing the thread, it was becoming boring.

G*d Bless,
Bill
On Wednesday, Aug 13, 2003, at 16:10 US/Pacific, RevCOAL wrote:

>How come so many animals do it...??


Re: [CTRL] Unatural Things In Unatural Times

2003-08-14 Thread Bill Howard
Are you suggesting that they lean toward being BI_SEXUAL?
On Thursday, Aug 14, 2003, at 07:47 US/Pacific, RevCOAL wrote:

It seems to me that the homophobes want it both ways

Re: [CTRL] Unatural Things In Unatural Times

2003-08-14 Thread RevCOAL
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Oh, come on, sex is not a spectator sport. And thanks for changing the
thread, it was becoming boring.

G*d Bless,
Bill
On Wednesday, Aug 13, 2003, at 16:10 US/Pacific, RevCOAL wrote:

How come so many animals do it...??

First off, I am not the author of the "How come so many animals do it?" question, I was just responding to an existing thread.

Second, for some people sex IS a spectator sport. But my post never said that it was (or was not) a spectator sport, only that humans are the only animals to engage in recreational sex. "Recreational" should not automatically suggest "spectator"...

It seems to me that the homophobes want it both ways; first they argue that homosexuality "isn't natural", but when evidence is presented to refute that allegation, they then fall back on their superstitious beliefs and claim that the Bible 'proves' their claim, altho nary a one of them has been able to quote any relevant chapter and verse...

One would think that, according to their superstition, since God created all things, then ALL animal behavior is part of God's plan. Perhaps homosexuality is God's "natural" form of birth control...


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