Re: [CTRL] head-in-the-sand idiocy from bill howard
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 4/11/02 7:42:04 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: i'm laughing my ass off over here. Don't laugh too hard, you may need that body part later. do you know *anything* about ethanol? like, perhaps, that it's cheaper to produce? that it's RENEWABLE? that it won't just cut down on released emissions but will also *fix* some of the problems caused by the crap you're breathing in right now? that it's, by far, the *cheapest* alternative to petrol-products? Recommend you re-read the article. oh, the right wing mind. gotta resist everything, refuse to learn about anything, refuse to pay for anything that *you* don't get *now* [fuck everyone else!], and never, ever, ever take your head out of the nice comfy ass that it's lodged in. wake up! this is a good thing... Again, re-read the article. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] head-in-the-sand idiocy from bill howard
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 4/11/02 8:10:59 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It's a *hell* of a lot better than MTBE, too. But even better would be to also start producing biodiesel and more incentives to further develop hybrids and hydrogen powered vehicles. Also to encourage urban planning around walking districts and public transportation. Before the freeway boom of the 50s-70s created suburbs and a total dependence on cars, many towns and cities had walking districs. There's a whole other story behind the freeway development and resulting suburbs ... and it wasn't just that people wanted to move to the country, either. Cui bono? Yes, it is better than MTBE and why not just do away with the diesel? As an aside, the article was from the Sacramento Bee and was about taxation. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] head-in-the-sand idiocy from bill howard
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 4/11/02 8:29:27 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: One of the main drivers of the auto culture was Brown v. Board of Education. When the federal courts started ordering the cities to let black kids go to city schools, huge numbers of whites fled to outlying counties, abandoning the city schools to become majority-black, for which there was little political support. Didn't know that fact. Thanks. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] head-in-the-sand idiocy from bill howard
-Caveat Lector- Recommend you re-read the article. i'm perfectly aware of what the article was about - a kneejerk reaction to a hike in taxes without a thought about whether it might actually be beneficial or not. 'tis what i found humourous. inri np: http://chat.carleton.ca/~jparent2/ there ought to be limits to freedom - george w. bush if this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as i'm the dictator. - george w. bush i'm not going to let congress erode the power of the executive branch - george w. bush A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] head-in-the-sand idiocy from bill howard
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 4/12/02 9:57:30 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: i'm perfectly aware of what the article was about - a kneejerk reaction to a hike in taxes without a thought about whether it might actually be beneficial or not. 'tis what i found humourous. So not wanting to pay higher taxes is now a kneejerk reaction. I'm glad you explained this point. Why do you find serious things humourous? A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] head-in-the-sand idiocy from bill howard
-Caveat Lector- i'm perfectly aware of what the article was about - a kneejerk reaction to a hike in taxes without a thought about whether it might actually be beneficial or not. 'tis what i found humourous. So not wanting to pay higher taxes is now a kneejerk reaction. it is when the money is being used for something that is beneficial and will help all of us yet the individual not wanting to pay has not bothered to look into why this is good for them.the only thing that clicks is higher taxes.n!. see, the thing is that you're convinced that taxes were designed to steal your hard earned money that nobody else deserves and not designed to fund things that progress society forward. you actually think that you own the money that you earn; that because *you* worked for it, *you're* entitled to do whatever *you* want with it. once again, i find this hilariousbut i'm never going to make you realize that you *don't* own the money, you're merely *borrowing* it, and it's only in your possession long enough for it to inflate and park itself back into the bank accounts that it came from. you don't earn your money, you're granted the priveledge to take it for a few weeks and then give it back. you have absolutely no right to dictate to the people that do own the money how much they wish to let you borrow for their own investment purposes. do you understand what i'm saying? why i'm so amused by people that complain about high taxes? i'll put it to you this way: you like your freedom, right? your free market economies? well, the fact that you pay taxes is the only reason that they still exist. you get rid of the taxes and the united states will end up like venezuelacia coup, man... I'm glad you explained this point. Why do you find serious things humourous? i don't find serious things humourous; the article was impossible to take seriously. inri np: http://chat.carleton.ca/~jparent2/ there ought to be limits to freedom - george w. bush if this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as i'm the dictator. - george w. bush i'm not going to let congress erode the power of the executive branch - george w. bush A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] head-in-the-sand idiocy from bill howard
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: inri [EMAIL PROTECTED] Not only will Californians soon have to pay more for gasoline laced with corn liquor, but as a result, we'll have less money to alleviate congestion on our roads. i'm laughing my ass off over here. do you know *anything* about ethanol? like, perhaps, that it's cheaper to produce? that it's RENEWABLE? that it won't just cut down on released emissions but will also *fix* some of the problems caused by the crap you're breathing in right now? that it's, by far, the *cheapest* alternative to petrol-products? oh, the right wing mind. gotta resist everything, refuse to learn about anything, refuse to pay for anything that *you* don't get *now* [fuck everyone else!], and never, ever, ever take your head out of the nice comfy ass that it's lodged in. wake up! this is a good thing... It's a *hell* of a lot better than MTBE, too. But even better would be to also start producing biodiesel and more incentives to further develop hybrids and hydrogen powered vehicles. Also to encourage urban planning around walking districts and public transportation. Before the freeway boom of the 50s-70s created suburbs and a total dependence on cars, many towns and cities had walking districs. There's a whole other story behind the freeway development and resulting suburbs ... and it wasn't just that people wanted to move to the country, either. Cui bono? - jt A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] head-in-the-sand idiocy from bill howard
-Caveat Lector- On Thursday 11 April 2002 11:10 pm, Joshua Tinnin wrote: It's a *hell* of a lot better than MTBE, too. But even better would be to also start producing biodiesel and more incentives to further develop hybrids and hydrogen powered vehicles. Also to encourage urban planning around walking districts and public transportation. Before the freeway boom of the 50s-70s created suburbs and a total dependence on cars, many towns and cities had walking districs. There's a whole other story behind the freeway development and resulting suburbs ... and it wasn't just that people wanted to move to the country, either. Cui bono? One of the main drivers of the auto culture was Brown v. Board of Education. When the federal courts started ordering the cities to let black kids go to city schools, huge numbers of whites fled to outlying counties, abandoning the city schools to become majority-black, for which there was little political support. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
