CS: Misc-FHM Magazine
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] My point regarding the shooting articles in FHM were more to do with the fact that a high circulation mainstream magazine was actually writing about firearms without having a swipe at us. You have to admit that it's a bit of a change in attitude for the UK press. OK, so they got a lot of facts wrong, when don't they? Perhaps with some guidance, or encouragement that could be sorted out At least it's a start! John. The opening line from the FHM article reads: or the average American, strolling into the bedroom to find little hank staring down the barrel of a loaded revolver, which he found in "pops, draw under the dirty magazines", is as common as obesity" The usual bigotries such as Gun owners being irresponsible and the link to sex are both there. Much of the rest was wrong, especially that related to UK firearms Law. The discussion of ballistics was, to be kind, simplistic. Their definition of Hoplophobe is given as: "someone who shits themselves whenever they see a gun. Known outside America as "sane". FHM should stick to what they know best. Writing brainless articles about equally brainless half naked totty, rather than slagging off the most Law abiding section of the community. J. -- I always thought the idea of a "men's" magazine was to package a porno mag so that it wasn't quite so embarrassing to buy. Steve. Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ T O P I C A The Email You Want. http://www.topica.com/t/16 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
CS: Misc-FHM Magazine
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Just had a flick through this month's FHM magazine. Quite a large section on firearms, with some fairly balanced views including a swipe at some American anti-gun stats and some info from a criminologist/firearms expert. The normal mistakes such as using 0.762 when talking about 7.62mm. Worth a flick through in your local news agent as this is one of the highest selling mens mags in the UK. John. What???!! You are kidding of course. I have just bought this particular mag a few minutes ago (I admit it was Buffy on the cover that tempted me to buy it, I only discovered the Gun bit when I started to read it.) and this was quite frankly a shite piece of journalism. The vast majority of the "facts" presented were totally wrong. Did you notice the picture of the ".44 Redhawk Revolver"? It wasn't, it was a picture of a 686, backwards! It's summary on UK firarms law was totally off the planet. I also hope you noticed that one of the side bar articles was an account of their "Journalist" being taken off to a secret range somewhere to shoot a Glock. I will be reporting this to Plod as if this is true they have quite clearly broken the Law! I think I will e-mail them and offer to re-write it for them for free. Jonathan Laws. Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ T O P I C A The Email You Want. http://www.topica.com/t/16 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
CS: Target-newcomers
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3) Anyone who isn't prohibited under Section 21 and is attending on a notified guest day, said person's details having been given to the police at least 48 hours prior. I didn't know the Club had to provide details of the individual. I thought the requirement was to inform the police that you are holding a guest day rather than tell them the names of those are attending as guests? J. -- So far as I know that has been a requirement since 1990. Steve. Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ T O P I C A The Email You Want. http://www.topica.com/t/16 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
CS: Target-advertising
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can advertise gun clubs anywhere. I thought advertising of Firearms and Gun clubs was against the Advertising code of practice unless it was in a Firearms related publication? Jonathan Laws. -- New one by me, and anyway it's a code of practice, not a law. I've seen gun clubs advertising in local papers. Steve. Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ T O P I C A The Email You Want. http://www.topica.com/t/16 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
CS: Target-prize money
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The question is, where is the money going to come from? The only place it can come from. Entry fees and club sub's. Unless you can get a few sponsors on board. J. Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ T O P I C A The Email You Want. http://www.topica.com/t/16 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
CS: Target-prize money
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think Matthew is talking lots of sense here. When it comes down to the bottom line, the simple fact of the matter is that we need to attract more People into the Sport. The problem with this as I see it is, a) Many clubs (especially those shooting full bore rifles as opposed to Pistol cal ones.) use MOD ranges as these are the only places to shoot them. The problem being that you can show up to the range only to find that you have had your booking cancelled by the Army or they have stolen your booking. At my local range they have just initiated a new rule that is basically "no army, no shoot". So we have about 3 dates booked for the entire year! This is not acceptable to new comers. b) compared to other sports you are generally restricted to set times, again if booking on another range. My club gets MOD range bookings generally on Sunday Mornings, many People want to take part in their hobby whenever it suits them not when it suits the club or the MOD. It is very difficult to simply decide to go shooting because you find you have a spare afternoon c) The British Weather! OK we can't do much about this but we can make it better. Look at us now, all die hard shooters willing to get soaked to the skin and covered in mud for our sport. This is not acceptable if we want to attract newcomers. How many ranges have convered firing points and decent drainage so you don't drown on the firing point? Not many! d) Advertising, how do we get new members other than by personal reccomendation? I don't think you are allowed to advertise Firearms or Gun clubs in the general press or broadcast media so we have a problem there. Havind said all that I think Matthew's ideas are good and are the only serious way in which we should be going. As I've said before, my local range at Ponteland would be a great place to develop commercially if the MOD would go for it, if anyone want's to invest drop me an e-mail. Jonathan Laws. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You can advertise gun clubs anywhere. My personal view is that many of the obstacles you mention are very difficult to overcome, so a better path might be to simply go around them by promoting shorter range disciplines which can take place indoors or on covered ranges that are open more often. Once you've got people shooting at 100m with a surplus Lee-Enfield, then you can get them interested in TR and so on. The reason why pistol shooting was so popular is simply that it is convenient. Rifle shooting is far less so, which is why less people did it. What needs to be done is to make it more convenient and as interesting as possible. Steve. Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ T O P I C A The Email You Want. http://www.topica.com/t/16 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
