CS: Legal-Guns for Self-defence
From: "jim.craig", [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't know about actual use of firearms by the authorities but a Glasgow newspaper recently ran an article showing old photos of tanks and troops with machine guns deployed in George Square in the centre of the city during and shortly after the General Strike of 1926. The term 'Red Clydeside' was then en general use and the government seemed to think that if a Soviet-style revolution was about to occur in the UK that Scotland and Glasgow in particular offered the best chance for it to succeed. Interestingly while researching the tanks and machine guns story some years ago I was accused of being provocative and assured by more than one local dignitary that no such incident had ever taken place This despite the photographic and other evidence available both in the City Archives and in the records of the local newspapers! Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Learn More. Surf Less. Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Topics You Choose. http://www.topica.com/partner/tag01
CS: Legal-Guns for Self-defence
From: Norman Bassett, [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've been recalling a lot of things about police activity in Manchester UK at the end of the Great War and one of the points that has come up is the transfer of mounted "Irish police thugs" to England in 1920 from their job of holding down Ireland to their new job of holding down England. I'm also recalling some shooting in major demonstrations in London at the end of 1918 following the return of troops to Britain complete with their weapons, having refused to be "posted to South Africa" for two years from France. We seem to have some major holes in our official version of Britain's history at the end of the Great War. Recollections relating to the British government's revisionist history, anyone? Regards Norman Bassett drakenfels.org -- There are reports of people using firearms in riots both in the Blackwell Report and also a report from New Zealand around the same time. Steve. Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Learn More. Surf Less. Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Topics You Choose. http://www.topica.com/partner/tag01
CS: Legal-Guns for self-defence
From: George Wallace, [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is not our legislation which prevents us from having guns for self defence, but simply Home Office Guidance. When you say that Police are pushed along a certain route by "their masters, the Home Office", I am afraid it is nowadays the other way round. A Home Office official told me a while back that, "ACPO now tell us what they want to receive as advice". I suspect it was always thus. You may remember that it was the Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police who recommended, in 1919, the establishment of arms caches around the country which could be issued to Government sympathisers in case of civil unrest. With many Countries accepting self defence, if perhaps only in the Home, as good reason for a gun, it may be possible to do something under our new Human Rights Act. It is surely unjust that the Irish, the Germans and who knows who else can defend themselves properly but we cannot. I have no money to pay for a challenge in the Courts but it ought to be possible to raise it with the help of Banks, Security Companies, Building Societies, Post Offices etc who would be the most obvious beneficiaries. George Wallace -- I don't think the Human Rights Act is really needed for this, all you need is some desperate soul who has a genuine need, then you can go for a judicial review. BTW, I have absolute proof that ACPO wrote the referee forms and got the HO to sign off on them despite objections from the NRA and others - surprise, surprise, the forms are hopeless and now they want them changed. Steve. Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Learn More. Surf Less. Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Topics You Choose. http://www.topica.com/partner/tag01
