CS: Misc-SA Website

2001-02-23 Thread RVMalbon

From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re Norman Bassett's posting on this subject:

We apologise for the length of time it is taking us to get our website 
transferred to a new 'host'. The problem is in getting our previous host, 
Easyspace, to release the domain to the successor. 'Easyspace' are not 
responding quickly to our messages and the whole thing has gone on for far 
too long. 

Two weeks ago we received a message from Easyspace to 'pay up within two days 
- one of them being a Sunday - or we close you down'. That was the first 
inkling we had had that there was any delay in our payments. Our website had 
been set up by a third party who was actually financing the site for us as 
part of his contributions to our campaign. He is no longer in a position to 
do this, hence the sudden problem. This person was frequently out of contact 
with us and the whole situation was, in hindsight, unsatisfactory. However, 
this is the only significant 'hiccup' we have had with the running of the 
site so far. It is a pity that it happened at this time though.

So Norman Bassett isn't very impressed with our site! What does this mean? If 
he could give us some positive suggestions for improvement we would be very 
pleased to consider them. 

Yes, we agree that a website is very important to our campaign and we are 
developing ours as we can. It must be borne in mind, of course, that 
maintenance of any information exchange system requires appropriate input of 
resources - ours are limited at this time and we see no point in trying to 
duplicate the output of, for example, Cybershooters. We do have links to many 
other sites but if there are still others to which it would be sensible to 
have links, again, please let us know and we will do what we can.

Our Bulletin Board is still functioning and is 'host', amongst other topics, 
to a rather unpleasant exchange of views with regard to the administration of 
another organisation at present. Whilst we strongly support freedom of speech 
we feel that a serious topic of discussion is being undermined by a 
succession of unhelpful postings from a variety of sources containing 
personal remarks of a scurrilous nature. We ask all persons using our 
Bulletin Board to observe the niceties of civilised behaviour. Potentially 
libellous remarks are being deleted as soon as we observe them but otherwise 
the Board is not moderated in any way. 

The Bulletin Board address is: http://venus.beseen.com/boardroom/d/26347/

I will post to Cybershooters as soon as our Website is back on again. In the 
meantime, please accept our apologies for our apparent incompetence in IT 
matters. 

It is, of course, possible that we are incompetent in other areas as well, as 
was also suggested by Norman Bassett. That remains to be seen - how do we 
judge competence in a campaign against an implacable foe? By results or by 
effort? No-one is doing much good if we judge by results, are they? At least 
we are doing our best to campaign for what we believe to be right and will 
continue to do so for as long as is necessary. If Mr.Bassett can help us we 
would be very pleased to receive his help.


Richard Malbon, Director, Sportsman's Association.


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CS: Misc-SA Website

2001-02-22 Thread Norman

From:   Norman Bassett, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I admit my error - I plead fatigue, my brain was not
working properly - the SA does indeed have a domain
name, even if it doesn't currently lead to their
website.

In fact I regularly buy Gun Mart magazine and I've
been following the various changes in the SA's
internet situation (as given in that magazine) for
some time.

I point out the two domain names used so far
(sagbni.org and sportsmans-association.org) and the
variety of other non-domain name website addresses and
email addresses.

What I do myself is to register my domain name with a
company which just forwards punters to wherever the
website files are kept and doesn't supply ISP services
or webspace. That way you can move your files wherever
you like and you can change the web forwarding details
online, immediately, for nothing. The SA has got that
far.

You don't have to keep your website files on your
ISP's storage, which seems to be the SA's current
mistake and the reason why their website is not
currently accessible. 

Rather a lot of the cheapo ISPs don't seem to give
good service, as Steve mentions.

I repeat, I'm not impressed by the SA's performance on
the internet. I think the internet is important. I
think they could do better. I ask again - what else
are they doing wrong?

Regards
Norman Bassett
drakenfels.org


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