Re: cygrunsrv will not start services most of the time
Dave Korn wrote: Argh, sorry about that. I just updated the BLODA sources in CVS to mention Google Desktop the other day, but we haven't refreshed the website yet, :-P That would have saved me some troubleshooting time! I swear I searched Google for Google desktop cygrunsrv and I didn't find any mention of the issue -- but I guess I searched for something else. Maybe it was Google Desktop and fork resource unavailable (which doesn't show anything useful). Ah, Google is great when you search for the right thing. In any case, I wanted to add that if you use regedit to rename/delete AppInit_DLLs, cygrunsrv will work until you reboot -- at that point Google Desktop seems to fix itself by creating AppInit_DLLs again. That will of course break cygrunsrv again. So, I guess the better solution is to install an old version of Google Desktop. -- Rob -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: cygrunsrv will not start services most of the time
Robert Jacobson wrote: Dave Korn wrote: Argh, sorry about that. I just updated the BLODA sources in CVS to mention Google Desktop the other day, but we haven't refreshed the website yet, :-P That would have saved me some troubleshooting time! I swear I searched Google for Google desktop cygrunsrv and I didn't find any mention of the issue -- but I guess I searched for something else. Maybe it was Google Desktop and fork resource unavailable (which doesn't show anything useful). Ah, Google is great when you search for the right thing. Yeah, that's always the tricky bit. I googled for +cygwin error +google desktop and found a couple of pointers to google groups as results #3 and #4 that led me to this report from last October: http://groups.google.com/group/Google-Desktop_Something-Broken/tree/browse_frm/month/2008-10/1f3f00524b27fbf4?rnum=121_done=%2Fgroup%2FGoogle-Desktop_Something-Broken%2Fbrowse_frm%2Fmonth%2F2008-10%3F#doc_c5426b3f349577a3 (http://tinyurl.com/d9jtcv to avoid wrapping). In any case, I wanted to add that if you use regedit to rename/delete AppInit_DLLs, cygrunsrv will work until you reboot -- at that point Google Desktop seems to fix itself by creating AppInit_DLLs again. That will of course break cygrunsrv again. Argh. Still, that key belongs to windows, there are lots of other things that might end up there or cause it to be recreated, so editing it is an unreliable technique at the best of times. I see (OldNewThing 20071213) that it's deprecated and disabled by default in vista (and presumably above). It occurs to me that we should dump it out in the cygcheck output, thanks for the idea! cheers, DaveK -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: cygrunsrv will not start services most of the time
On 4/6/2009 7:59 AM, Robert Jacobson wrote: Dave Korn wrote: Argh, sorry about that. I just updated the BLODA sources in CVS to mention Google Desktop the other day, but we haven't refreshed the website yet, :-P That would have saved me some troubleshooting time! I swear I searched Google for Google desktop cygrunsrv and I didn't find any mention of the issue -- but I guess I searched for something else. You must have searched for something else. A search for google desktop cygrunsrv finds the following report of the same problem: http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2008-10/msg00326.html Ken -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: cygrunsrv will not start services most of the time
Well, I found the culprit. It seems that Google Desktop was causing the problem, because after I installed it, I had zero problems starting cygrunsrv services. I only have two machines with both Google Desktop and cygrunsrv services. It works fine on the other machine. Oh well, I need an SSHD server more than I need Google search! -- Rob -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: cygrunsrv will not start services most of the time
Robert Jacobson wrote: I only have two machines with both Google Desktop and cygrunsrv services. It works fine on the other machine. This seems to be a known issue with the current version. There are two workarounds: 1) install an older version 2) Rename a registry key to prevent the Google Desktop dll from attaching to every process Details are here: http://groups.google.com/group/Google-Desktop_Something-Broken/browse_thread/thread/0dabf807fbdf2d7f TinyURL link just in case wrapping messes up above link: http://preview.tinyurl.com/d7pglv I went the registry key route. -- Rob -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: cygrunsrv will not start services most of the time
Robert Jacobson wrote: Well, I found the culprit. It seems that Google Desktop was causing the problem, because after I installed it, I had zero problems starting cygrunsrv services. Argh, sorry about that. I just updated the BLODA sources in CVS to mention Google Desktop the other day, but we haven't refreshed the website yet, and I forgot to mention that the list was longer now in this thread. Thanks for reminding me to go through my backlog of email and dig out all the BLODA updates people have sent me over the past few months. cheers, DaveK -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: cygrunsrv will not start services most of the time
Dave Korn wrote: :-( I'm starting to run out of ideas. This is the point at which I'd start single-stepping through early process startup in a debugger, trying to see why it fails. I'd love to do that, but I think it's beyond my technical abilities. I mean, I'm not even sure where to start using a debugger in Windows. I've used gdb to examine stacks, but... Anyone have a pointer to a primer on how to go about debugging this? -- Rob -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: cygrunsrv will not start services most of the time
Robert Jacobson wrote: Most of the time (say, 7 out of 10 times), it will not start the service. When I issue the net start sshd command, it hangs, then eventually gives the error: A system error has occurred. System error 1067 has occurred. Very, very rarely I get an error in the Windows Application event log: Starting service 'sshd' failed: fork: 11, Resource temporarily unavailable. What other things can I do to narrow down the problem? I hope the information I've provide is complete. If I can add anything, please let me know. What's on your services list? Got Logitech Process Monitor at all? Anything that isn't part of windows itself? cheers, DaveK -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: cygrunsrv will not start services most of the time
Dave Korn wrote: What's on your services list? Got Logitech Process Monitor at all? Anything that isn't part of windows itself? I have iTunes installed, so I these services (which I stopped but did not uninstalled) Apple Mobile Device Bonjour Service iPod Service I also have these other non-Windows services (again, all of which I stopped but did not uninstall): Entrust Login Interface Entrust/TrueDelete(TM) Net Driver HPZ12 NVIDIA Display Driver Service NVIDIA Performance Driver Service PatchLink Update Pml Driver HPZ12 VNC Server That said, I have another system with mostly the same software/services (except NVIDIA services); it works OK. The other system doesn't have Entrust/TrueDelete(TM) either. I can try uninstalling the Entrust software... -- Rob -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: cygrunsrv will not start services most of the time
Robert Jacobson wrote: The other system doesn't have Entrust/TrueDelete(TM) either. I can try uninstalling the Entrust software... Entrust Login Interface seems a likely one to interfere with the launching of processes that change user id. (IIRC answering -y to ssh-host-config will have enabled privsep). It's probably worth the hassle of a couple of reboots to find out if it's doing so. cheers, DaveK -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: cygrunsrv will not start services most of the time
Dave Korn wrote: Entrust Login Interface seems a likely one to interfere with the launching of processes that change user id. (IIRC answering -y to ssh-host-config will have enabled privsep). It's probably worth the hassle of a couple of reboots to find out if it's doing so. I guess I forgot to mention that I tried the sshd service without priv separation; it doesn't help. Also, the inetd service doesn't do any sort of priv separation, and that doesn't work either. The evidence seems to indicate that whatever problem I have, it affects cygrunsrv globally, no matter what service I use (ok, I only tried inetd and sshd, but still.. :) ). That said, I still uninstalled the Entrust software. I also uninstalled the Apple extras (Mobile Device, Bonjour, Apple Software Update). Unfortunately cygrunsrv services still do not start properly. -- Rob -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: cygrunsrv will not start services most of the time
Robert Jacobson wrote: Dave Korn wrote: Entrust Login Interface seems a likely one to interfere with the launching of processes that change user id. (IIRC answering -y to ssh-host-config will have enabled privsep). It's probably worth the hassle of a couple of reboots to find out if it's doing so. I guess I forgot to mention that I tried the sshd service without priv separation; it doesn't help. Also, the inetd service doesn't do any sort of priv separation, and that doesn't work either. The evidence seems to indicate that whatever problem I have, it affects cygrunsrv globally, no matter what service I use (ok, I only tried inetd and sshd, but still.. :) ). That said, I still uninstalled the Entrust software. I also uninstalled the Apple extras (Mobile Device, Bonjour, Apple Software Update). Unfortunately cygrunsrv services still do not start properly. :-( I'm starting to run out of ideas. This is the point at which I'd start single-stepping through early process startup in a debugger, trying to see why it fails. cheers, DaveK -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
