Re: Start your own group
At 10:08 AM -0800 2/21/00, dmolnar wrote: On Mon, 21 Feb 2000, Tim May wrote: At one time there were fairly active groups in Boston/Cambridge and Washington, D.C. We once had a interesting DES-encrypted 3-way teleconference between the three meetings. Is any such activity underway in Boston/Cambridge at the moment, besides DCSB ? Not that I have heard. Such local activities would likely be mentioned here on the main list. --Tim May -:-:-:-:-:-:-: Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, ComSec 3DES: 831-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, "Cyphernomicon" | black markets, collapse of governments.
Re: Feaky
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Re: Cypherpunks List Turns to Shit: Film at 11
Greg Broiles wrote: Why is toad even participating any more? Didn't it get junked after Gilmore's editorial binge? No, it, too, has continued to run in an unsupervised/uncontrolled fashion. which is a good thing - it's still listed in a lot of ftp archives. should I move to cyperpass.net instead? What's funny is that the physical meetings in the SF Bay Area have been much better lately - their content is considerably more interesting than most list traffic. I've been wondering about that ever since - can one be a cypherpunk without being in SF? me being in germany, I would have a hard time attending any bay area meetings, even occasionally. :-/
RE: Cypherpunks List Turns to Shit: Film at 11
Title: RE: Cypherpunks List Turns to Shit: Film at 11 what and miss the antigravity posts? ... I live for them! - Adam (floating downstream in a balsa-wood Klein bottle)
Feaky
You may/may not have seen this before, but it's pretty freaky!! I, apparently, am typical -- what are you? NO PEEKING AHEAD! * Free will or synaptic wiring? You be the judge. Do the following exercise, guaranteed to raise an eyebrow. There's no trick or surprise. Just follow these instructions, and answer the questions one at a time and as quickly as you can! Again, as quickly as you can but don't advance until you've done each of them ... really. Now, arrow down (but not too fast, you might miss something). * *Think of a number from 1 to 10 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Multiply that number by 9 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *If the number is a 2-digit number, add the digits together * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Now subtract 5 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Determine which letter in the alphabet corresponds to the number you ended up with (example: 1=a, 2=b, 3=c, etc.) * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Think of a country that starts with that letter * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Remember the last letter in the name of that country * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Think of the name of an animal that starts with that letter * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Are you thinking of Kangaroos in Denmark? * * * * * * * * * * * * * If not, you're among the 2% of the population whose minds are different enough to think of something else. 98% of people will answer with kangaroos in Denmark when given this exercise. Freaky, huh? Keep this message going. Forward it to people you know and see if they can see if they are usual or unusual. - To be removed from this mailing list click on the link below http://216.55.23.229/mailing/mail2.cgi?[EMAIL PROTECTED] --part1_78.1084123.25cc48f0_boundary-- --WebTV-Mail-31529-679-- __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
e-gold: Frozen accounts, returned funds, a few of my favoritethings...
...From the "non-repudiation is a bitch" department, wherein E-Gold, and
their customers, discover the joys of book-entry transaction underwriting...
When you need to know your customers -- which you *must* do with book-entry
settlement or you're out of business -- you need to *know* your customers.
That includes making sure they don't get you, as a transaction underwriting
intermediary, in trouble with the very cops who are responsible for
enforcing the non-repudiation of your own transactions.
To paraphrase a certain Mr. Callahan, a transaction system's customer needs
to know the system's limitations...
I expect, among other things, that if E-Gold survives this, and I expect
they will, that they'll be that much more, um, incented, to issue bearer
notes against a single gold reserve someday instead of acting as a bailee
for each separate customer. Or, maybe, to be a bailee for each separate
customer, as defined by posession of a specific bearer certificate.
Whatever the law will allow, of course, same as it ever was.
Cheers,
RAH
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From: "Daniel J. Boone" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: e-gold: Frozen accounts, returned funds, a few of my favorite
things...
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 20:35:27 -0900
Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
This is long. I post here rarely, and intend to continue the practice. But
the startlingly rude message quoted in full below stirred me to share a few
observations.
To get right to the point, I am surprised and appalled at the idea that
e-gold accounts can and apparently have been frozen, apparently on an ad hoc
basis or pursuant to an after-the-fact policy not extant, or not advertised,
when the accounts in question were created. I may be wrong about those
apparent facts -- if so, I'd love to hear it. All I know is what I read
here on the e-gold list, and the strength of my attention does vary.
As for my surprise and distaste at this development, I don't especially
expect anyone at e-gold or its hydra-headed affiliates to care. I'm just
expressing my opinion here. However, I will make this observation: e-gold
is nothing without its credibility. In my view, talk of freezing accounts,
let alone actually doing it, is suicidal folly for a company (or set of
companies) whose stock-in-trade is secure storage of value. Freezing
accounts is something the IRS and third-world dictators do, not companies I
want to do business with.
I'm not some johnny-come-lately critic with a criminal axe to grind. I've
had an e-gold account since early 1997, which is roughly contemporaneous
with the time that Douglas Jackson made the mistake of spamming one of
Robert Hettinga's many mailing lists on financial cryptography and related
subjects. My e-gold account number is 100098. I think they started at
10, which would put me in the first hundred customers. My account has a
little e-gold in it, but not much. My disappointment with recent
developments is greater, perhaps, because of the promise e-gold showed way
back three years ago.
Back then, let me tell you, the e-gold crew came across as a bunch of
nutzoid gold bugs with web server and a wild scheme. They weren't
cypherpunks -- not by a long shot -- but they had all the right instincts.
Douglas Jackson, at least, was PGP-enabled -- and we exchanged several very
interesting mails on the subject of privacy, security, and e-gold's
intentions in that area.
I wouldn't post those messages publicly, even if I could still find the key.
But I can say that Mr. Jackson satisfied me that e-gold had the right
attitudes about privacy and security. He rather delicately, without quite
saying as much, pointed out that the account information could be utterly
bogus, and it wouldn't matter until you wanted your gold, at which time you
could change the information to an address that worked and do an
out-exchange. He intimated, but of course was too professional to say, that
e-gold would not mind a whit. And finally, he went to great lengths to
convince me of e-gold's iron resolve that accounts would be secure and
inviolate -- gold held in them would stay there until withdrawn or stolen by
judicial process. ("Stolen" is my word, not his.)
Since then, e-gold has come a long way. It has grown by leaps and bounds,
and there have been tantilizing hints that a true digital bearer currency
based on it may be forthcoming. I've been rooting for it all the way, and
have half a dozen progeny accounts to show for my trouble.
Now comes Charles Evans, who I do not know, but who seems to have been
associated with the enterprise as long as I have known about it. (This is a
fancy way of saying I remember the name from early days.) He's signing as
executive vice president of Omnipay, which is a business name new to me. I
don't know whether it's yet another head of the e-gold hydra or what, but
I'm seeing the phrase "GSR/Omnipay" so I will assume so.
And Evans, if he has not been the victim of a drive-by
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If we had your major credit card account number, credit limit, banking phone number and billing phone number, we could properly assess your request so we could deliver a death blow that is warranted by your complete stupidity. At 10:44 AM 2/20/00 -0800, you wrote: coolll!!very cooolll!!!
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At 3:22 PM -0800 2/21/00, POPESCU GEORGE wrote: Dear Sir/Madame My name is Popescu George.I am from Romania. Is posible your business for me, from my country? My best regards! Is not possible your business, my country, you. Was possible, past time, your country, never someday. --Tim Mayescu -:-:-:-:-:-:-: Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, ComSec 3DES: 831-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, "Cyphernomicon" | black markets, collapse of governments.
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