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Re: IBM Uses Keystroke-monitoring ing NJ Mob Case (was Re:

2000-12-12 Thread Anonymous Remailer

Ken Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 In every office or factory I've ever been in, including government ones
 where we kept paper copies of tax returns (yes folks, I have worked for
 the Inland Revenue) there are cleaners. They seem to come in 3 kinds -
 middle-aged black women, African students working their way through
 college, and people with vaguely asiatic features who sound as if they
 are speaking Portuguese. 

The latter would probably be Phillipinos.




Biometric serial murder...

2000-12-12 Thread R. A. Hettinga

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/et?ac=003976162830991rtmo=LxLdbLhdatmo=rrrqpg=/et/00/12/12/waus12.html






ISSUE 2027  Tuesday 12 December 2000

Outback killers tortured 10 victims
By Barbie Dutter in Adelaide

 

 
Magistrate gags bodies- in barrels case - [12 Dec '00] - News.com.au
 
Snowtown murders [9 Jun '00] - The Age
 
Snowtown: a bank vaults deadly math - The Crime Library
 

THE grisly details of Australia's worst serial killing began to unfold
yesterday as a court was told how eight mutilated bodies were discovered
dumped in barrels inside the vault of a disused bank in a tiny Outback
township.

snip

John Bunting, Mark Haydon and Robert Wagner are accused of murdering 10
people between December 1995 and May 1999. James Vlassakis is accused of
five murders. All four refused to enter a plea.

The killings were allegedly carried out as part of a macabre social
security fraud. Most of the eight men and two women killed had close
associations - including, in some cases, family ties - with those accused
of their murder. Elizabeth Haydon, was a mother of eight married to one of
the accused.

Wendy Abraham QC, opening the prosecution case, said the four had collected
the welfare benefits and disability allowances of their dead victims. They
even impersonated some of those they had killed to conduct banking
transactions or to deal with the social security office. Before being
murdered, some of the victims were made to repeat scripted phrases, which
were taped and left on the answering machines of their relatives and
friends to divert suspicion from their disappearance, she said.


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Geodesic Definition from a Mathematician (PhD, MIT, 197BLA) Re:Questions of size...

2000-12-12 Thread R. A. Hettinga

...who like most of us, agrees with Tim *lots* more often than he likes to
admit. :-).


Cheers,
RAH
Who won't wax (too) rhapsodic about how Tim, in his Amazonian example
below, described a "geodesic recursive auction" (digital silk road, Hughes
"piracy" market, whatever) ducking...

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Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 08:02:26 -0700
From: Somebody
Subject: Re: Questions of size...
To: "R. A. Hettinga"  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Bob,

The distinction between geometry, topology, and, presumably, homology, begs
the question.

You, following Huber, have used the word geodesic to refer to connections
of minimal cost. In the economic manifold (surface) this is presumably the
only important metric (local distance function).  The analogy is
mathematically precise in all respects, and therefore correct.

I'd have flogged you into submission long before this if it were not so.

Geodesics, or more properly, geodesic paths, are locally defined.  There is
not necessarily a geodesic between two specific points.  In a
differentiable manifold with a sufficiently smooth metric, there are
geodesic paths in every direction through every point, however.  Whether
there is one of those paths going to some other given point is a question
of connectivity and other topological issues.  Two separate spheres are a
single differential manifold.  No great circle path -- the geodesics of
each surface -- connects any point on one sphere with any point of the
other.

Unfortunately, geodesics may also be the longest paths between two points.
Just go the wrong way on the great circle determined by two ends of the
Mass Ave bridge.  It's a path of stationary length: slight variations in
the path make hardly any difference in its length.  Unfortunately its
length is maximum rather than minimum.

By the way, have I mentioned that I HATE it when I agree with Tim?


Somebody's .sig


  From: "R. A. Hettinga" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: Questions of size...
  Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 19:16:57 -0500
  To: Some People, Privately



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Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 15:51:26 -0800
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Tim May [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Questions of size...
Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Tim May [EMAIL PROTECTED]

At 5:56 PM -0500 12/11/00, R. A. Hettinga wrote:
At 9:48 PM + on 12/11/00, Ben Laurie wrote:


  Chambers defines geodesic as "the shortest line on a surface between two
  points on it"

Thank you. It works in all dimensions, and, thus it's topological, right?


Topology is typically not concerned with distance metrics. Doughnuts
and coffee cups and all.

Geometry is what you're thinking of, presumably.

Not as sexy as saying something is "a topologically-invariant
geodesic fractally-cleared auction space," but that's what happens
when buzzwords are used carelessly.

By the way, one topological aspect of a geodesic dome, to go back to
that, is that each node is surrounded by some number of neighbors.
Applied to a "geodesic economy," this image/metaphor would strongly
suggest that economic agents are trading with their neighbors, who
then trade with other neighbors, and so on.

Tribes deep in the Amazon, who deal only with their neighbors, are
then the canonical "geodesic economy."

This is precisely the _opposite_ of the mulitiply-connected trading
situation which modern systems make possible.

So, aside from the cuteness of suggesting a connection with geodesic
domes, with buckybits as the currency perhaps?, this all creates
confusion rather than clarity.


--Tim May
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Digital Economy Jargon Generator

2000-12-12 Thread Tim May


With all of the talk recently of recursively-settled agoric market 
spaces, multidimensional geodesic actor systems, and other 
jargon-heavy marketbuzz, I've made up a little table of recommended 
names.

Someone could make a little Perl or Python script to let the 
computers do all the work.

The idea is to take a couple of sexy terms from Columns 1 and 2 and 
apply them to a noun from Column 3. Care should be taken to use terms 
which evoke images from relativity, quantum mechanics, artificial 
life, and other trendy areas. Anything that triggers images from 
"Star Trek" is good.

Here it goes:


Column 1Column 2  Column 3

Distributed Fractal   Market

GeodesicCoaseian  Ecosystem

Holographic Geodesic  Space

Multiply-connected  Biometric Ecology

Least ActionParameterized Continuum

Recursively-settled Holographic   Cyberspace

Fractal Multidimensional  Bazaar

BionomicDistributed   Hyperspace

Agoric  Auction   Topology

Best of breed   MetricMetaverse

Dark Fiber  Anarchic  Arena

Open-system Quantized Manifold

Anarcho-topological Hayekian  Actor system


Examples of usage:

"Digital Datawhack is premised on the principle of creating 
distributed biometric agoric arenas."

"The Von Mises Corporation is the dominant player in deploying 
recursively-settled holographic actor systems. It is our goal to make 
agoric, open-system market topologies the bionomic norm."

"Fractalbucks are the unit of currency in the Hayekworld bazaar-type 
open Coaseian system. We believe it to be best of breed in the dark 
fiber geodesic market space."

Glad to be of help.


--Tim May, Aptical Foddering Marketspace V.P.



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Re: FC: Yet Another Survey: Americans have become privacy pragmatists

2000-12-12 Thread Duncan Frissell


Business President Alan Westin says that more Americans now fall into the 
category of "privacy pragmatist" rather than "privacy fundamentalist." Ron 
Plesser of Piper Marbury Rudnick  Wolf says that the Internet industry 
must determine how to properly use Social Security numbers. "Regulating 
the purchase and sale of Social Security numbers over the Internet won't 
come overnight," Plesser says.

Damn few "privacy fundamentalists" out there.  Most "privacy advocates" 
support massive government privacy invasions including the Internal Revenue 
Code of 1986, as amended, the Census Bureau, and the various state DMVs.

Unless a "privacy advocate" is prepared to call for the elimination of the 
above privacy invading institutions or at least their conversion to 
anonymous credential technology, then I submit that they are *not* privacy 
advocates at all.

As for the eternal SS# question, Amex and Discover will currently give you 
"one time use" cc numbers to use over the nets.  A consumer-friendly 
government could do the same.  Particularly since they already have the 
institutional setup in place.  Anyone who forms an entity of any kind that 
has US tax implications (sole proprietorship, partnership, trust, estate, 
corporation, etc.) can/must apply for a taxpayer ID number (TIN).  The Feds 
could issue them to the rest of us for one-time use.

DCF

I knew America was in trouble when I found that the application to join the 
Sons of the American Revolution asks for your Social Security Number.




Re: Questions of size...

2000-12-12 Thread Ben Laurie

Tim May wrote:
 
 At 7:42 PM + 12/12/00, Ben Laurie wrote:
 Sampo A Syreeni wrote:
 
   On Mon, 11 Dec 2000, Ben Laurie wrote:
 
   Chambers defines geodesic as "the shortest line on a surface between two
   points on it" and that is precisely the meaning in general relativity.
 
   No question about it. The term also doesn't mean a whole lot when applied
   as-is in the many instances it is on this list. As Tim put it, it pretty
   much equates to "cyberpunkish".
 
 Not being subscribed to cypherpunks (has S/R improved?) I will have
 missed that.
 
 Signal happens when good writers contribute good articles. Noise
 happens in the expected ways. Noise is what the delete key, and
 filters, were made for.

Hmm. So, please send me your noise filter. I could do with one.

 As you are apparently reading this from the "DBS" list, you are not
 seeing any of my contributions. Regrettfully, DBS (and DCSB, or
 Bearebucks, or whatever Bob is calling his list(s)) is not an "open
 system." The Cypherpunks tried such a censored list a few years ago,
 and we rejected the approach.

The list I'm writing to is not censored, AFAIK.

 I wrote a large article debunking the "geodesics is about topology"
 point of view. Others have said similar things.

Actually, they're really about geometry, though there are some kinds of
topology which can support geodesics (not the standard rubber-sheet kind
most people are familiar with, though). For example, a graph can support
the notion of a shortest distance between two points, and that is
definitely a topological entity.

 Please don't contribute articles to the Cypherpunks list if you are,
 as you say, not subscribed. While we don't reject articles by
 nonsubscribers, as per the above, it is tacky and rude for
 nonsubscribers to address articles to lists they are not tracking.

This is an email, not an article. Is it tacky and rude to copy to a list
to which you'd prefer I didn't reply? I think so. Is it polite to
include all recipients in a mail to which you reply? I think so.

Cheers,

Ben.

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doesn't mind who gets the credit." - Robert Woodruff




Re: Digital Economy Jargon Generator

2000-12-12 Thread Declan McCullagh


Here you go:

http://www.mccullagh.org/cgi-bin/jargonizer.cgi

-Declan


At 10:08 12/12/2000 -0800, Tim May wrote:

With all of the talk recently of recursively-settled agoric market spaces, 
multidimensional geodesic actor systems, and other jargon-heavy 
marketbuzz, I've made up a little table of recommended names.

Someone could make a little Perl or Python script to let the computers do 
all the work.

The idea is to take a couple of sexy terms from Columns 1 and 2 and apply 
them to a noun from Column 3. Care should be taken to use terms which 
evoke images from relativity, quantum mechanics, artificial life, and 
other trendy areas. Anything that triggers images from "Star Trek" is good.

Here it goes:


Column 1Column 2  Column 3

Distributed Fractal   Market

GeodesicCoaseian  Ecosystem

Holographic Geodesic  Space

Multiply-connected  Biometric Ecology

Least ActionParameterized Continuum

Recursively-settled Holographic   Cyberspace

Fractal Multidimensional  Bazaar

BionomicDistributed   Hyperspace

Agoric  Auction   Topology

Best of breed   MetricMetaverse

Dark Fiber  Anarchic  Arena

Open-system Quantized Manifold

Anarcho-topological Hayekian  Actor system


Examples of usage:

"Digital Datawhack is premised on the principle of creating distributed 
biometric agoric arenas."

"The Von Mises Corporation is the dominant player in deploying 
recursively-settled holographic actor systems. It is our goal to make 
agoric, open-system market topologies the bionomic norm."

"Fractalbucks are the unit of currency in the Hayekworld bazaar-type open 
Coaseian system. We believe it to be best of breed in the dark fiber 
geodesic market space."

Glad to be of help.


--Tim May, Aptical Foddering Marketspace V.P.



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Re: Digital Economy Jargon Generator

2000-12-12 Thread Declan McCullagh

I've got an idea! How about one that would make text look like it was 
spoken by a Canadian!?!

-Declan


At 16:25 12/12/2000 -0500, R. A. Hettinga wrote:
At 4:04 PM -0500 on 12/12/00, Declan McCullagh wrote:


  http://www.mccullagh.org/cgi-bin/jargonizer.cgi

Great.

Now all we need is one of those translators, like the one that turns text
into something the Muppet's Swedish Chef would say...

:-).

Cheers,
RAH
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Re: Digital Economy Jargon Generator

2000-12-12 Thread R. A. Hettinga

At 4:04 PM -0500 on 12/12/00, Declan McCullagh wrote:


 http://www.mccullagh.org/cgi-bin/jargonizer.cgi

Great.

Now all we need is one of those translators, like the one that turns text
into something the Muppet's Swedish Chef would say...

:-).

Cheers,
RAH
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[predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to
experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'




Re: Digital Economy Jargon Generator

2000-12-12 Thread R. A. Hettinga

At 4:29 PM -0500 on 12/12/00, Declan McCullagh wrote:


 I've got an idea! How about one that would make text look like it was
 spoken by a Canadian!?!

:-).

Ooo! Oooo! A canadian *cryptographer*!!!

SouthPark-KylesMom Bomb Canada.../S-K

(Yes, I get the joke, and consider myself properly spanked. I'll go see
*myself* how the Swedish Chef thing works. It can't be that hard, right?)

Cheers,
RAH
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Re: Digital Economy Jargon Generator

2000-12-12 Thread Alan Olsen

On Tue, 12 Dec 2000, Declan McCullagh wrote:

 I've got an idea! How about one that would make text look like it was 
 spoken by a Canadian!?!

Better yet -- John Young. ]:

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Re: Digital Economy Jargon Generator

2000-12-12 Thread Declan McCullagh

At 14:02 12/12/2000 -0800, Alan Olsen wrote:
Better yet -- John Young. ]:

Modern computer science has not advanced sufficiently to accomplish such a 
feat. :)

-Declan




Re: Digital Economy Jargon Generator

2000-12-12 Thread R. A. Hettinga

At 4:43 PM -0500 on 12/12/00, R. A. Hettinga wrote:


 (Yes, I get the joke, and consider myself properly spanked. I'll go see
 *myself* how the Swedish Chef thing works. It can't be that hard, right?)

As Senior Wences(sp?) used to say, "Eeesy for jou to say, for me, ees
deeficult!)

Okay, so it does searches and replaces on *characters* and doesn't just
insert buzz words per se, which means, like the website of the same name
says, it does dialectizing, and not jargon per se.

From the Mac source (Chef 1.1) I found on info-mac, the Swedish Chef one's
pretty simple, with just a few character substitution rules. The hardest
one I found, from a quick perusal in Google, is Cockney, with something
like 600 rules, which I haven't actually looked at, yet.

Creating text which sounds like me -- much less John Young -- may (or may
not :-)) be "eesy". Though, it does remind me of the concordance
text-biometric stuff people around here used to fool around with to
identify anonymous cypherpunk messages from, um, various cranks...

:-).

Cheers,
RAH
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Insult Islam online, go to jail

2000-12-12 Thread Declan McCullagh


Malaysia Takes Action On Anti-Islam Internet Surfers

By Steve Gold, Newsbytes
KUALA LUMPUR, MALAYSIA,
12 Dec 2000, 7:48 AM CST
Insulting Islam on the Internet in Malaysia could prove costly from now on, 
as the government has warned that offenders face fines of up to $1,300 
and/or three years in prison.

This draconian warning came from Abdul Hamid Othman, a minister in the 
Malaysian Prime Minister's Department Monday, when he said that any Muslim 
world Internet surfers who insult the Prophet Mohammed and the Koran, the 
Muslim equivalent of the bible, on the Internet, face dire consequences.

The legal action, he said, will be taken under Syariah criminal law - the 
Law of Mohammed - which all Muslim states adopt.

Othman's comments are likely to attract condemnation from Western Internet 
users and experts, many of whom, say Islamic proponents, do not understand 
the teachings of the Prophet Mohammed.

...




Re: Digital Economy Jargon Generator

2000-12-12 Thread Roy M. Silvernail

At 04:04 PM 12/12/00 -0500, Declan McCullagh wrote:

Here you go:

http://www.mccullagh.org/cgi-bin/jargonizer.cgi

Nifty hack, Declan!





DCSB: Chuck Wade; ACH in Internet Payment

2000-12-12 Thread R. A. Hettinga


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Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 19:11:34 -0500
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: "R. A. Hettinga" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: DCSB: Chuck Wade; ACH in Internet Payment
Cc: Chuck Wade [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ted Byfield [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Scott Moskowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: "R. A. Hettinga" [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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[Note that the Harvard Club is now "business casual". No more jackets and
ties... --RAH]


  The Digital Commerce Society of Boston

 Presents


Chuck Wade,
 Senior Researcher, Internet Payments and Security,
CommerceNet

Legacy Electronic Payment Systems meet the Internet:
  Using ACH for Internet Payments

 Tuesday, January 2nd, 2000
 12 - 2 PM
  The Downtown Harvard Club of Boston
One Federal Street, Boston, MA




Electronic payment systems have been around for more than a
quarter century, but are characterized by a legacy of private
networks and mainframe transaction processing systems. Recently,
there have been a variety of new schemes proposed and even
implemented to bring legacy epayment systems to the Internet.
This is especially true of the Automated Clearing House (ACH)
system, which is evolving rapidly to support new interfaces with
Internet-based payment services.

This talk will focus on some of the approaches being used to
adapt the legacy ACH system to new Internet payment services, and
will explore some of the positive and negative implications of
these developments.


Chuck Wade is a Senior Researcher for CommerceNet focusing on
Internet payments and information security. Prior to joining
CommerceNet, he was a Principal Consultant in the Information
Security Group of BBN Technologies. At BBN, he led Electronic
Commerce initiatives and client engagements, with most of his
consulting work within the Financial Industry. As one of the
original participants in the FSTC eCheck Project, Chuck has been
involved with over-the-Internet electronic payments since the mid
1990's. He also contributed directly to the architecture, design,
deployment and testing of various large, mission-critical
networks, including the trading floor network for the New York
and American Stock Exchanges.

In a career spanning a quarter century, Chuck spent all of the
'90s with BBN (now a part of Verizon) as a Consultant and Systems
Architect. During most of the '80s, he worked at Motorola
directing the Advanced Technology Group for the Codex division.
He has also worked in the minicomputer industry and university
research. He holds both Sc.B. and Sc.M. degrees from Brown
University in Electrical Engineering.



This meeting of the Digital Commerce Society of Boston will be held on
Tuesday, January 2nd, 2000, from 12pm - 2pm at the Downtown Branch of
the Harvard Club of Boston, on One Federal Street. The price for lunch is
$35.00. This price includes lunch, room rental, A/V hardware if
necessary, and the speakers' lunch. The Harvard Club has relaxed its
dress code, which is now "business casual", meaning no sneakers or jeans.
Fair warning: since we purchase these luncheons in advance, we will be
unable to refund the price of your meal if the Club finds you in
violation of what's left of its dress code.


We need to receive a company check, or money order, (or, if we *really*
know you, a personal check) payable to "The Harvard Club of Boston", by
Saturday, December 30th, or you won't be on the list for lunch. Checks
payable to anyone else but The Harvard Club of Boston will have to be
sent back.

Checks should be sent to Robert Hettinga, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston,
Massachusetts, 02131. Again, they *must* be made payable to "The Harvard
Club of Boston", in the amount of $35.00. Please include your e-mail
address so that we can send you a confirmation

If anyone has questions, or has a problem with these arrangements (We've
had to work with glacial A/P departments more than once, for instance),
please let us know via e-mail, and we'll see if we can work something
out.


Upcoming speakers for DCSB are:

February 6  Ted Byfield  Decentralized DNS Control
March 6 Scott Moskowitz  Watermarking and Bluespike


As you can see, :-), we are actively searching for future speakers. If
you are in Boston on the first Tuesday of the month, are a principal in
digital commerce, and would like to make a presentation to the Society,
please send e-mail to the DCSB Program Committee, care of Robert
Hettinga, mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED].

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