Adv; Work at home, have a fun MAKE $$$$$ -CTVQ

2001-01-19 Thread natalie

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YOU WILL NOT REGRET IT.
++
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The results of this show have been truly remarkable.  So many people 
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The audience started to hoot and boo him.  He looked out at the 
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With network marketing, you have two sources of income.
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from sales made by people you introduce to the business.
Residual income is the secret of the wealthy.
It means investing time or money once and getting paid again and 
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the work of others.
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some thought and study to it.



My name is Jonathan Rourke.  Two years ago, the corporation I 
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eliminated.  After unproductive job interviews, I decided to open my 
own business.  Over the past year, I incurred many unforeseen 
financial problems.  I owed my family, friends, and creditors over 
$35,000.  The economy was taking a toll on my business and I just 
couldn't seem to make ends meet.
I had to refinance and borrow against my home to support my family 
and struggling business.  AT THAT MOMENT something significant 
happened in my life and I am writing to share the experience in hopes 
that this will change your life FOREVER FINANCIALLY!!!
In mid December of 1997, I received this program 

Adv; Work at home, have a fun MAKE $$$$$ -FELW

2001-01-19 Thread natalie

This really is worth your valuable time, so...
PLEASE PRINT THIS NOW FOR READING AT YOUR LEISURE, 
YOU WILL NOT REGRET IT.
++
Dear Friend,

You can earn $50,000 or more in next the 90 days sending E-mail.
Seem impossible?  Read on for details.  Is there a catch?  NO!!!  
There is no catch. Just send your emails; and, You will be on your 
way to financial freedom.
AS SEEN ON NATIONAL TELEVISION:
Thank you for your time and Interest.  This is the letter you've been 
reading about in the news Lately.
Due to the popularity of this letter on the Internet, a major nightly news 
program recently devoted an entire show to the investigation of the 
program described below to see, if it really can make people money.
The show also investigated whether or not the program was legal.  
Their findings proved once and for all that there are, absolutely no 
laws prohibiting the participation in the program.  This has helped to 
show people that this is a simple, harmless, and fun way to make 
some extra money at home.
The results of this show have been truly remarkable.  So many people 
are participating that those involved are doing, much better than ever 
before.
Since everyone makes more as more people try it out, its been very 
exciting to be a part of lately.
You will understand once you experience it.
"HERE IT IS BELOW."

*** Print This Now (IF YOU HAVE NOT already done it) for Future
Reference ***

The following income opportunity is one you may be interested in 
taking a look at.  It can be started with VERY LITTLE investment and 
the income return is TREMENDOUS!!!



If you would like to make at least $50,000 in less than 90 days!
Please read the enclosed Program...THEN READ IT AGAIN!!!




THIS IS A LEGITIMATE, LEGAL, MONEYMAKING OPPORTUNITY.
It does not require you to come into contact with people, do any hard 
work, and best of all, you never have to leave the house except to get 
the mail.  If you believe that someday you'll get that big break that 
you've been waiting for, THIS IS IT!
Simply follow the instructions, and your dreams will come true.  This 
Multi-level e-mail order-marketing program work perfectly, 100% of 
EVERY TIME.  E-mail is the sales tool of the future.  Take advantage 
of this non-commercialized method of advertising NOW!
The longer you wait, the more savvy people will be taking your 
business using e-mail.  Get what is rightfully yours.  Program yourself 
for success and dare to think BIG.
MULTI-LEVEL MARKETING (MLM) has finally gained respectability.  
It is being taught in the Harvard Business School, and both Stanford 
Research and the Wall Street Journal have stated that between 50% 
and 65% of all goods and services will be sold through multi-level 
methods by the mid to late 1990's.
This is a Multi-Billion Dollar industry and of the 500,000 millionaires in 
the U.S., 20% (100,000) made their fortune in the last several years 
in MLM.  Moreover, statistics have show that 45 people become 
millionaires everyday through Multi-Level Marketing.
You may have heard this story before, but over the summer, Donald 
Trump made an appearance on the David Letterman show.  Dave 
asked him what he would do if he lost everything and had to start over 
from scratch.  Without hesitating, Trump said he would find a good 
network marketing company and get to work.
The audience started to hoot and boo him.  He looked out at the 
audience and dead-panned his response "That's why I'm sitting up 
here; and, you are all sitting out there!"
With network marketing, you have two sources of income.
Direct commissions from sales you make yourself and commissions 
from sales made by people you introduce to the business.
Residual income is the secret of the wealthy.
It means investing time or money once and getting paid again and 
again and again.  In network marketing, it also means getting paid for 
the work of others.
The enclosed information is something I almost let slip through my 
fingers.  Fortunately, sometime later I re-read everything and gave 
some thought and study to it.



My name is Jonathan Rourke.  Two years ago, the corporation I 
worked at for the past twelve years down-sized and my position was 
eliminated.  After unproductive job interviews, I decided to open my 
own business.  Over the past year, I incurred many unforeseen 
financial problems.  I owed my family, friends, and creditors over 
$35,000.  The economy was taking a toll on my business and I just 
couldn't seem to make ends meet.
I had to refinance and borrow against my home to support my family 
and struggling business.  AT THAT MOMENT something significant 
happened in my life and I am writing to share the experience in hopes 
that this will change your life FOREVER FINANCIALLY!!!
In mid December of 1997, I received this program 

Yet another spam generator

2001-01-19 Thread Ken Brown

http://www.spammimic.com/encode.cgi supposedly encodes your short
messages as imitation spam, postings designed to fail content filtering
 so (the author claims) bypass Echelon. Hmmm.  Whoever put the site up
doesn't seem to have a clear distinction between cryptography,
stenography  obfuscation.  Does everyone have to reinvent the wheel
every time? Are we going to go through it all *again* with mobile phone
text messages?

It seems to be a version of Peter Wayner's bumf generator from way back
when: http://catless.ncl.ac.uk/Risks/11.71.html#subj2 (Which has a very
funny bit in the style of a Neil Kinnock speech - maybe you have to be
in the Labour Party to get it...)

I don't think it is going to cause NSA any headaches. What chance do
they have of knowing about a method which has only been described in
Byte and on Risks? Presumably if you  identify a posting as having been
through Mimic  you can get enough text to recover the model you can
retrieve plaintext reasonably easily - so the secure use should be based
on ciphertext, not plaintext  perhaps would avoid using models freely
available on the web. (there was some discussion on similar stuff on
coderpunks  cypherpunks a few years back)
http://privacy.nb.ca/cryptography/archives/coderpunks/new/1998-03/0214.html 

But it generates mildly amusing  parodies of spam. Not as good as the
Neil Kinnock though.

Ken Brown

"You will shortly be in communication with Otis" translates to:

Dear E-Commerce professional , Your email address has 
been submitted to us indicating your interest in our 
briefing . If you are not interested in our publications 
and wish to be removed from our lists, simply do NOT 
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to 

Re: Yet another spam generator

2001-01-19 Thread Bill Stewart

At 11:47 AM 1/19/01 +, Ken Brown wrote:
http://www.spammimic.com/encode.cgi supposedly encodes your short
messages as imitation spam, postings designed to fail content filtering
 so (the author claims) bypass Echelon. Hmmm.  Whoever put the site up
doesn't seem to have a clear distinction between cryptography,
stenography  obfuscation.  Does everyone have to reinvent the wheel
every time? Are we going to go through it all *again* with mobile phone
text messages?

You're missing the point - it's intended as a steganography system,
and like most such, it won't stop somebody who has the same system
from destegoing it, but it will stop or substantially reduce the
likelihood of Echelon or similar keyword systems from snarfing it.
(You could also do a terrorist-mimic version* if you want to
_increase_ the chances of Echelon picking it up.)

Of course if you need security, you need to stego cyphertext only.
The web site probably should emphasize this, but you can always
paste in PGP output.  (Obviously you'd really want to run the code on 
your own machine and those of your unindicted co-conspirators,
and use custom grammars.)

I have a friend who could have really used a program like this
a few years ago - he was working in Ethiopia, and he had enough trouble
keeping the local kleptocrats from stealing his computers
"they don't run without the passwords, so you can't resell them"
and the phone company yelled at him for making phone calls in Dutch,
which their eavesdroppers couldn't understand; French or Italian
or English would have been ok if he wasn't using a local language.
We got him a copy of PGP, but he didn't feel safe using it.

It seems to be a version of Peter Wayner's bumf generator from way back
when: http://catless.ncl.ac.uk/Risks/11.71.html#subj2 

I think it _was_ Peter Wayner who posted it - this is an implementation
of his "mimic functions" paper from some years ago.

(Which has a very funny bit in the style of a Neil Kinnock speech - 
maybe you have to be in the Labour Party to get it...)

My former Senator, Joe Biden, got caught for plagiarizing Kinnock once -
it doesn't take a computer to generate bad speeches :-)

Does anybody have a copy of the Dilbert cartoon where
Dilbert's written a "Pointy-Haired-Boss-Speak" version of this?


~~~
Semtex Escobar Cocaine Radio Echelon TEMPEST 
Pablo Assassinate Semtex Semtex W Osama's Radio Directionfinding
~~
Thanks! 
Bill
Bill Stewart, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PGP Fingerprint D454 E202 CBC8 40BF  3C85 B884 0ABE 4639




Re: REAL assassination politics

2001-01-19 Thread Bill Stewart

At 12:19 PM 1/18/01 -0500, Declan McCullagh wrote:
According to Rep. Barr, however, "These Executive orders 
limit the swift, sure, and precise action needed by the 
United States to protect our national security."

Rep. Barr did not indicate exactly who he wants the Government to 
assassinate.  His bill does say, encouragingly, that assassination 
"is a remedy which should be used sparingly."

It's obviously to prevent another Clinton administration,
just as it was used to prevent various Kennedy administrations :-)
Also takes care of any lingering Gore recount problems.

Constitutionally, before you assassinate someone, 
you have to propery indict the target and hold a trial in which
he or she is present, has a lawyer available, 
and is allowed to question the witnesses and appeal whether any
sentence of death is cruel or unusual punishment.
_Then_ you can sneak up on them and kill them,
or poison their cigars, or give them an Israeli cellphone
or a Ford Pinto.


"You can't arrest him, he's a Sovereign"
"So declare war on him"
"That's a dumb move against someone with nuclear weapons"


Thanks! 
Bill
Bill Stewart, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PGP Fingerprint D454 E202 CBC8 40BF  3C85 B884 0ABE 4639




Re: oppose nomination of John Ashcroft

2001-01-19 Thread Jim Burnes

On Thursday 18 January 2001 23:00, Reese wrote:
 At 11:56 AM 1/18/01 -0600, Jim Burnes wrote:
  On Thursday 18 January 2001 10:15, Declan McCullagh wrote:
   Quite right. Ashcroft is objectionable, as is any candidate George W.
   would propose, but he is arguably less objectionable than Reno.
  
   Here's what he said yesterday about Microsoft:
   http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,41264,00.html
  
  To all the people who find Ashcroft objectionable, let me concur
  with Declan that there is no one they will not find objectionable.
  In my opinion, anyone that doesn't burn little children in their
  churches is at least an order of magnitude better than Janet
  Reno.

 Reno burned little kids in their church, because of the FIREARMS held
 or believed to be held somewhere on or around the compound.

 You might want to reappraise.

I've appraised the Waco scenario more than most.  You might want to 
do a little digging before you trumpet the statist line.  I don't
know if you're a US citizen Reese, but owning firearms in Texas is
not a reason to burn and gas people alive.  Go get informed.


  I'd also like to point out that anything he says in the confirmation
  hearings is likely to be whatever he thinks the questioner wants to
  hear.

 Agree, but -

  He will whisper sweet nothings into Dianne Feinstein's ear about his
  new plans for the fascist state if he thinks it will turn Feinswein's
  vote.
  
  Do you really think Feinswein will vote for him?

 - asskrack is on record about firearms, elsewhere.  If firearms are as
 large an issue to her as they are to others, probably.

Unlikely.  My guess is that his so-called record, while not stellar A+
NRA material, is certainly a lot better than most.  He is almost certainly
telling Feinswein exactly what she wants to hear.  His most egregious 
downfall is his position on the drug war.  This is the most critical of
all positions and the one that the media is curiously un-interested in.

-- 
Sometimes it is said that man can not be trusted with the government of
himself. Can he, then, be trusted with the government of others? Or have we
found angels in the forms of kings to govern him? Let history answer this
question.   -- Thomas Jefferson, 1st Inaugural




Re: SpamCop authorization code

2001-01-19 Thread Gerry_Inman



I did not request this and I do not want it!! Please stop sending this S__T to
me ...Gerry Inman




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Someone (probably you) has requested that SpamCop email you an
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Re: SpamCop authorization code

2001-01-19 Thread Bill Stewart

At 05:28 PM 1/19/01 +0200, Sampo A Syreeni wrote:
On Fri, 19 Jan 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Oh, the irony. Spam on this list thanking you for helping rid the Net of
spam, a split second after telling you to share the included URL with no
one. That one could be used to demonstrate anything from the effect of the
human factor on access control schemes, to the futility of security through
obscurity, through to the apparent omnipresence of Those Who Definitely Need
Killing. Made my day...

It's not really spam - it's response mail from a site where
somebody registered with cypherpunks@wherever as their email.
The "Don't Share this with anyone" aspect is fun, though.
Thanks! 
Bill
Bill Stewart, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PGP Fingerprint D454 E202 CBC8 40BF  3C85 B884 0ABE 4639




Re: SpamCop authorization code

2001-01-19 Thread Sampo A Syreeni

On Fri, 19 Jan 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Oh, the irony. Spam on this list thanking you for helping rid the Net of
spam, a split second after telling you to share the included URL with no
one. That one could be used to demonstrate anything from the effect of the
human factor on access control schemes, to the futility of security through
obscurity, through to the apparent omnipresence of Those Who Definitely Need
Killing. Made my day...

Sampo Syreeni [EMAIL PROTECTED], aka decoy, student/math/Helsinki university




Re: NONSTOP Crypto Query

2001-01-19 Thread John Young

This, from David Wagner on Cryptography, is most informative:

In a paper on side channel cryptanalysis by John Kelsey, Bruce Schneier,
Chris Hall, and I, we speculated on possible meanings of NONSTOP and HIJACK:

   [...]
   It is our belief that most operational cryptanalysis makes use of
   side-channel information.  [...]  And Peter Wright discussed data
   leaking onto a transmission line as a side channel used to break a
   French cryptographic device [Wri87].

   The (unclassified) military literature provides many examples of
   real-world side channels.  [...]  Peter Wright's crosstalk anecdote
   is probably what the HIJACK codeword refers to [USAF98]. Along
   similar lines, [USAF98] alludes to the possibility that crosstalk from
   sensitive hardware near a tape player might modulate the signal on the
   tape; [USAF98] recommends that tapes played in a classified facility be
   degaussed before they are removed, presumably to prevent side channels
   from leaking. Finally, one last example from the military literature
   is the NONSTOP attack [USAF98, Chapters 3-4]: after a careful reading
   of unclassified sources, we believe this refers to the side channel
   that results when cryptographic hardware is illuminated by a nearby
   radio transmitter (e.g. a cellphone), thereby modulating the return
   signal with information about what the crypto gear is doing [AK98].
   [...]

   [AK98] R. Anderson and M. Kuhn, "Soft Tempest: Hidden Data Transmission
  Using Electromagnetic Emanations," Proc. 2nd Workshop on
  Information Hiding, Springer, 1998.
   [USAF98] US Air Force, Air Force Systems Security Memorandum 7011--
  Emission Security Countermeasures Review, 1 May 1998.
   [Wri87] P. Wright, Spycatcher, Viking Penguin Inc., 1987.
   
The above is excerpted from the conclusions of
   J. Kelsey, B. Schneier, D. Wagner, C. Hall,
   "Side channel cryptanalysis of product ciphers",
   Journal of Computer Security, vol. 8, pp. 141--158, 2000.
   http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~daw/papers/sidechan-final.ps

Do remember, please, that these are just guesses.

Also, credit is due to Ross Anderson and Markus Kuhn for informative
discussions on this topic.

[End Wagner post]

--- 

Both the Anderson/Kuhn and USAF papers are online:

  http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/ih98-tempest.pdf

  http://www.jya.com/afssm-7011.htm





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Re: John Ashcroft

2001-01-19 Thread Declan McCullagh

I agree with the below. But it is mistaken to treat civil asset
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On Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 01:14:46PM -0600, Harmon Seaver wrote:
 
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Re: oppose nomination of John Ashcroft

2001-01-19 Thread Declan McCullagh

On Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 04:13:32PM -1000, Reese wrote:
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