Re: CDR: Re: Some other math/crypto sci-fi

2001-01-25 Thread Tom

Bill Stewart wrote:
 
 At 01:26 PM 1/24/01 +0100, Tom wrote:
 Alan Olsen wrote:
  You could do a collectable card game based on the patent mess, but the
  idea of a collectable card game has already been patented.  (Now owned by
  Hasbro now that they bought Wizards of the Cost.)
 
 wouldn't that be perfect? a "collectable patent card game", as a way to
 criticise patents (by using the most ridiculous ones on the cards),
 which in itself violates a patent... hm, I like the idea...
 
 "combine the 'patent for display of blablah' with the 'method or device
 for remote information acquisition' and you can cross-license that
 against your enemie's 'global computer network patent' for 10 points."
 
 
 I'll take "Famous Patent Lawyers" for $200

as a matter of fact, I do think that the game can be done as a variation
of a game called "lunch money". actually, even the theme is quite
compatable. I'll post it here soon.




Re: Some other math/crypto sci-fi

2001-01-25 Thread Bill Stewart


  You could do a collectable card game based on the patent mess, but the
  idea of a collectable card game has already been patented.  (Now
owned by
  Hasbro now that they bought Wizards of the Cost.)

On a slightly more cypherpunkish theme, before Cryptonomicon had the
base-52 Solitaire encryption, there had been some people who'd done
256-card implementations of RC4.  That's a lot of cards -
a 64-card version would still be reasonably secure.
The Illuminati collectable-card-game cards from Steve Jackson Games
would do well (maybe there are 256?), but it's easier to do
something with suits and numbers on lots of the cards;
a Tarot deck has something like 79 cards, and an appropriate
amount of deliberate obfuscation.  
There's also the Silicon Valley Tarot (which first appeared on the web, 
www.svtarot.com, but SJG sells the cards) which has more localized archetypes,
like The Hacker, The Garage, The Ace of Cubicles, Bugs, Encryption.





Thanks! 
Bill
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Re: CDR: Re: Some other math/crypto sci-fi

2001-01-24 Thread Bill Stewart

At 01:26 PM 1/24/01 +0100, Tom wrote:
Alan Olsen wrote:
 You could do a collectable card game based on the patent mess, but the
 idea of a collectable card game has already been patented.  (Now owned by
 Hasbro now that they bought Wizards of the Cost.)

wouldn't that be perfect? a "collectable patent card game", as a way to
criticise patents (by using the most ridiculous ones on the cards),
which in itself violates a patent... hm, I like the idea...

"combine the 'patent for display of blablah' with the 'method or device
for remote information acquisition' and you can cross-license that
against your enemie's 'global computer network patent' for 10 points."


I'll take "Famous Patent Lawyers" for $200

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