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-J

On Tue, 11 May 2004, Adam Back wrote:

> Anyway the who goes 1st problem definition has my interest piqued: I
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etc.

So that's an open problem.  But let's assume guessable-certs, since that's the
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But maybe Robert's improved secret sharing scheme from the new HC paper can 
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1. Alice sends blinded signatures for each of her relevant certs, not
revealing which signature goes with each cert, and not revealing the cert
contents.

2. Bob generates the contents of each of Alice's certs relevant to his policy,
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blinded-signature.  One from each row will be a match-up between contents and
signature, and Alice will have to figure out which.  Unfortunately, this
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[linux-elitists] Two on RFID from Politech: Hack the tech, & Gilmore's dystopia (fwd from kmself@ix.netcom.com)

[Eugen Leitl]

- Forwarded message from "Karsten M. Self" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -

From: "Karsten M. Self" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 01:23:07 -0700
To: Linux Elitists <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [linux-elitists] Two on RFID from Politech:  Hack the tech,
& Gilmore's dystopia
User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.5.1+cvs20040105i

RFID has been in the news and play recently.  I even heard a somewhat
informed discussion on KQED's "California XXX" Saturday.

The first article covers John Gilmore's dystopian view of RFID.  Imagine
being able to create weapons which indipendently target specific IDs.
This sort of activity is hard to hack.  It's also a partial _current_
reality:  

  - OBL was tracked, according to reports, via his satellite phone,
until he became aware of this, and stopped using same (possibly even
sending it on a distracting separate track from himself for a time).

  - More locally, militia movements which had used anonymous phone cards
to make "untraceable" phone calls instead were tracked on the basis
of traffic analysis.  While a given card wasn't allocated to an
individual, it was identifiable by account, and could be flagged for
monitoring if it called other numbers of known interest.

I'm sure that states such as, say, Israel, would have a significant
interest in munitions having characteristics described by Gilmore.


The second covers a "hacking the system" concept.  I'd considered
something similar myself, though different in approach.  Rather than
finding RFID chips and "redistributing" them, why not create
programmable RFID broadcasters which could spoof other chips, and
distribute these.  The idea being to pollute any RFID detectors with a
vast spew of superfluous data.

There are a couple of implications here which are pretty clear.  Many of
us carry a set of identifyable broadcast appliances already, and this
will increase.  These signatures are difficult to mask.  The more likely
response will be to find these signatures, and to the extent they're
broadcastable, clone them and distribute them more widely (specific
seeding).  This will make the specific signatures less reliable for
either legitimate or illegitimate use.

At the same time, legitimate business uses of RFID monitoring will
probably be highly specific in their focus on data interest.  There's
simply going to be too much data floating around, most of it not
interesting, to be able to work with reasonably.  This would be further
encouraged by seeding of noise data closely resembling legitimate keys.

Predictability of RFID sequences, and known legit or covert use of data
will be key in determining both utility and countermeasure activities
concerning RFID.


- Forwarded message from Declan McCullagh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -

Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 00:24:45 -0400
From: Declan McCullagh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:  John Gilmore's horrific,  dystopian view of an RFID world [priv]

[I always learn something from John Gilmore, and this is no
exception.  Although parts of his dystopia are already true: I
travel with a cell phone, 802.1x devices, and Bluetooth devices that
broadcast my identity (to a sufficiently savvy adversary) even more
efficiently than an RFID tag would... --Declan]


 Original Message 
Subject: Re: [Politech] Computerworld falls for RFID "sniper rifle" hoax?
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 13:21:35 -0700
From: John Gilmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Declan McCullagh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Nice hoax.  But the opposite is more likely to come true.  Rather
than shooting RFID chips into people, people with RFID chips already
in or on them will be shot.  People with RFID chips in their
clothing, books, bags, or bodies could be targeted by "smart
projectiles" that will zero in on that particular Smart.

Today's "smart bombs" already self-guide toward laser-identified or
RF-identified or heat-identified targets.

The technical challenges involved in guiding a missile toward an
RFID chip would probably relate to the speed of the missile compared
to the range at which the RFID chip can be made to respond and the
agility with which the missile can change course.

Such a missile could probably more easily be designed to *arm* or
*trigger* its explosion when a particular RFID chip is in range.
That way, if fired at innocents, it would be a dud that would only
cause minimal damage, but if fired at the right person, it would
blow up.

But we need not get so science-fiction about it.  Rather than bring
the mountain to Mohammed, let's let Mohammed come to the mountain.
Let's see what this technology would do for an everyday practice of
today's freedom fighters who are defending their country by opposing
one of the US Government's current wars of occupation.  In or

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Re: SASSER Worm Dude

[Dave Howe]

Tyler Durden wrote:
> "HANOVER, Germany -- German police have arrested an 18-year-old man
> suspected of creating the Sasser computer worm, believed to be one of
> the Internet's most costly outbreaks of sabotage."
> Note the language...an "18 year old MAN" and "sabotage"...
> So a HS kid, living with his parents, is able to write a worm that
>   takes out millions and millions of computers throughout the world
> running the latest MS OS. Uhshouldn't we arrest Bill Gates first?
I think you are thinking in terms of the American age scale - In england
(and over most of europe although obviously it varies), 18 is old enough
to marry without parental permission, be served in a bar, drive, and be a
practicing homosexual.  At 16 you can have hetrosexual relationships,
marry with parental permission, work (and pay taxes) and rent property in
your own name (you can *own* property from 12)

Most schooling ends at 16, college 18, university (assuming a 3 year
course) 21. I would assume a german at 18 is either at university or
considered of employable age - well into majority.  So legally, "man" is
ok - obviously, this is a shallow typical Skript Kiddie who probably still
lives with his parents, but legally that isn't the case.

Re: Brands' private credentials

[Ben Laurie]

Adam Back wrote:
On Mon, May 10, 2004 at 02:42:04AM +, Jason Holt wrote:
Another approach to hiding membership is one of the techniques
proposed for non-transferable signatures, where you use construct:
RSA-sig_A(x),RSA-sig_B(y) and verification is x xor y = hash(message).
Where the sender is proving he is one of A and B without revealing
which one.  (One of the values is an existential forgery, where you
choose a z value first, raise it to the power e, and claim z is a
signature on x= z^e mod n; then you use private key for B (or A) to
compute the real signature on the xor of that and the hash of the
message).  You can extend it to moer than two potential signers if
desired.
There is code for this in openssl (not sure if its the same technique, 
its described as a ring signature). One of the more amusing aspects is 
it was posted anonymously and signed by a group of likely-looking 
candidates.

Cheers,
Ben.
--
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