Re: Dell to Add Security Chip to PCs

2005-02-05 Thread Shawn K. Quinn
On Fri, 2005-02-04 at 19:07 -0800, James A. Donald wrote:
 The ability to convincingly tell the truth is a very handy one
 between people who are roughly equal.  It is a potentially
 disastrous one if one party can do violence with impunity to
 the one with the ability to convincingly tell the truth.

In other words, NGSCB/Palladium/etc doesn't give you an advantage in the
least when you step onto a playing field tilting heavily in Microsoft's
direction.

-- 
Shawn K. Quinn [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Dell to Add Security Chip to PCs

2005-02-05 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Sat, Feb 05, 2005 at 01:19:46AM +, Justin wrote:

  If I film off a HDTV screen with a HDTV camera (or just do single-frame
  with a good professional camera) will the flag be preserved?
 
 I don't think so, I think the flag is in the bitstream and doesn't
 affect visual output at all.  You still run into significant quality

I know; that was a rhetorical question.

 loss trying to get around it that way.

I doubt the quality loss would be perceivable. What you'll get will be
persistent artifacts which would allow source fingerprinting via digital
forensics.
 
 The point is that HDTV is a popular consumer technology, and the MPAA
 and TV networks alone managed to hijack it.

I have yet to see a single HDTV movie/broadcast, and I understand most TV
sets can't display anything beyond 800x600.

DVD started with a copy protection, too.

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Re: Dell to Add Security Chip to PCs

2005-02-05 Thread Justin
On 2005-02-03T22:25:28+0100, Anonymous wrote:
 The only people endangered by this capability are those who want to be
 able to lie.  They want to agree to contracts and user agreements that,
 for example, require them to observe DRM restrictions and copyright
 laws, but then they want the power to go back on their word, to dishonor
 their commitment, and to lie about their promises.  An honest man is

No, I want the right to fair use of material I buy.  If someone sells
DRM-only material, I won't buy it at anything approaching non-DRM
prices.  In some cases, I won't buy it at all.

My fair use rights should not be held hostage by a stupid majority who
support a DRM-only market.

Maybe the market for music won't support DRM-only products, but I
suspect the market for DVDs and low-sales books will.  The result is
that I won't be able to rip a season's worth of DVDs so I can watch them
all without playing hot potato with the physical DVDs.  I won't be able
to avoid the 15-second copyright warnings, or the useless menu
animations.

Low-sales books may end up being DRM-only, and I _hate_ reading books on
a screen.  Since DRM-only rare books will satisfy some of the market,
there will be even less pressure on physical book publishers to
occasionally reprint them, thus forcing even more people to buy the
DRM'd ebooks.

I bought an ebook on amazon for $1.99 a couple months ago.  The printed
book was $20.  It was very nearly the worst purchase of my life.  I
won't buy a similarly DRM'd ebook every again, for any amount.  The
hassle plus the restrictions aren't worth the $18 savings.

-- 
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men; some he makes slaves, others free.  --Heraclitus (Kahn.83/D-K.53) 



What is a cypherpunk?

2005-02-05 Thread Anonymous
Justin writes:

 No, I want the right to fair use of material I buy.  If someone sells
 DRM-only material, I won't buy it at anything approaching non-DRM
 prices.  In some cases, I won't buy it at all.

Well, that's fine, nobody's forcing you to buy anything.  But try to think
about this from a cypherpunk perspective.  Fair use is a government
oriented concept.  Cypherpunks generally distrust the collectivist wisdom
of Big Brother governments.  What fair use amounts to is an intrustion
of government regulation into a private contractual arrangement.  It is
saying that two people cannot contract away the right to excerpt a work
for purposes of commentary or criticism.  It says that such contracts
are invalid and unenforceable.

Now, maybe you think that is good.  Maybe you think minimum wage is
good, a similar imposition of government regulation to prevent certain
forms of contracts.  Maybe you think that free speech codes are good.
Maybe you support all kinds of government regulations that happen to
agree with your ideological preferences.

If so, you are not a cypherpunk.  May I ask, what the hell are you
doing here?

Cypherpunks support the right and ability of people to live their
own lives independent of government control.  This is the concept
of crypto anarchy.  See that word?  Anarchy - it means absence of
government.  It means freedom to make your own rules.  But part of the
modern concept of anarchy is that ownership of the self implies the
ability to make contracts and agreements to limit your own actions.
A true anarchic condition is one in which people are absolutely free
to make whatever contracts they choose.  They can even make evil,
immoral, wicked contracts that people like you do not approve of.
They can be racists, like Tim May.  They can avoid paying their taxes.
They can take less money than minimum wage for their work.  They can
practice law or medicine without a license.  And yes, they can agree to
DRM restrictions and contract away their so-called fair use rights.

One of the saddest things I've seen on this list, and I've seen it many
times, is when people say that the laws of their country give them the
right to ignore certain contractual elements that they have agreed to.
They think that it's morally right for them to ignore DRM or limitations
on fair use, because their government said so.  I can't describe how
appalling I consider this view.  That anyone, in this day and age,
could consider _government_ as an arbiter of morality is so utterly
bizarre as to be incredible.  And yet not only is this view common, it
is even expressed here on this list, among people who supposedly have
a distrust and suspicion of government.

I can only assume that the ideological focus of this mailing list has
been lost over the years.  Newcomers have no idea what it means to be a
cypherpunk, no sense of the history and purpose which originally drove
the movement.  They blindly accept what they have been force-fed in
government-run schools, that government is an agency for good.

That's one interpretation.  The other is worse.  It's that people on
this list have sold out their beliefs, their ideals, and their morality.
What was the bribe offered to them to make them turn away from the
moral principles which brought them to this list originally?  What was
so valuable that they would discard their belief in self ownership in
favor of a collectivist worship of government morality?  Simply this:
free music and movies.

The lure of being able to download first MP3s and now video files
has been so great that even cypherpunks, the supposed defenders of
individual rights and crypto anarchy, are willing to break their word,
violate their contracts, lie and cheat and steal in order to feed their
addictive habit.  They are willing to do and say anything they have to in
order to get access to those files.  They don't feel the slightest bit of
guilt when they download music and movies in direct contradiction to the
expressed desire of the people who put their heart and soul into creating
those works.  They willingly take part in a vast criminal enterprise,
an enormous machine which takes from the most creative members of our
society without offering anything in return.  And this enterprise is
criminal not by the standards of any government or legal code, but by
the standards of the morality which is the essence of the cypherpunk
worldview: the standard of self ownership, of abiding by one's word,
of honoring one's agreements.

This poisonous activity has penetrated to all parts of internet based
society, and its influence has stolen away what honor the cypherpunks
once possessed.  Its toxic morality ensures that cypherpunks can no
longer present a consistent philosophy, that there is nothing left but
meaningless paranoid rantings.

I challenge anyone here to answer the question of what it means to be
a cypherpunk.  What are your goals?  What is your philosophy?  Do you
even recognize the notion of right and 

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Re: Dell to Add Security Chip to PCs

2005-02-05 Thread Dave Emery
On Sat, Feb 05, 2005 at 11:23:14AM +0100, Eugen Leitl wrote:
  The point is that HDTV is a popular consumer technology, and the MPAA
  and TV networks alone managed to hijack it.
 
 I have yet to see a single HDTV movie/broadcast, and I understand most TV
 sets can't display anything beyond 800x600.

Not widespread in Europe yet, but all the big networks in the US
now support it for most or nearly all their prime time schedule and most
big events (sports and otherwise) are now in HDTV in the USA.   Also
more and more cable networks in HDTV and some movie channels. Bandwidth
is the big limitation on satellite and cable, otherwise there would be
even more.

And HDTV sets are selling well now in the USA.   Most do not yet
have the full 1920 by 1080 resolution, but many are around 1280 by 720
native resolution which works well with the 720p progressive version used
primarily for sports (looks better with fast motion).

 
 DVD started with a copy protection, too.

However the really strange thing about the FCC broadcast flag is
that the actual over the air ATSC transport stream on broadcast channels
is mandated by law to be sent *IN THE CLEAR*, no encryption allowed - so
the FCC decision basicly requires any receiver sold to the public
*ENCRYPT* an ITC signal before providing it to the user.Naturally
this bit of nonsense will go far to make the broadcast flag very
effective indeed at preventing anyone with very modest  sophistication
from capturing the over the air in the clear transport stream and
passing it around on P2P networks or whatever - there is already plenty
of PCI hardware out there to receive ATSC transmissions (MyHD and many
others) and supply the transport stream to software running on the PC.

-- 
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Re: Auto-HERF: Car Chase Tech That's Really Hot

2005-02-05 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 06:41 PM 2/4/05 -0800, Steve Schear wrote:
At 10:15 AM 2/4/2005, R.A. Hettinga wrote:

  The beautiful part of using the (microwave) energy is that it
leaves the
suspect in control of the car, he said. He can steer, he can brake,
he
just can't accelerate.

Sorry Charlie, but I think newer vehicles are moving to fly-by-wire
steering, especially hybrids that don't have an internal combustion
engine
running all the time so they can't easily use traditional hydraulic
servo
steering.

Also amusing will be the congealed lenses of bystanders,
dead pacemaker wearers, fried business computers,
in addition to the accidents caused by other disabled cars.
But the cops will get their man, and the rest is collateral damage, put
it on the perp's ticket.

Besides, the ECU is shielded pretty well by the car metal and the unit
itself is shielded from the electrical ignition noise.  But someone
needs to explain that to this executive who fancies himself
an inventor and can't wait to suckle Caesar's teat, selling cyber
terrorist gizmos to
the man.

Personally I only use the magnetron  horn (concealed in my rooftop
fiberglass luggage holder) on
inconsiderate cell-phone-using drivers.   Better than jamming, because
they get to kiss their
RF front end goodbye, permenantly.  So it helps everyone for several
days, *and* sells
new handsets, helping the economy.   Works on pig radios too.

Also works on the thumpa-thumpa drivers, and when I turn the power up I
find that
Chihauha's skulls are not meant to take internal pressure; a steam
explosion is
pretty messy, and fuzzy dice don't really clean the insides of
windshields terribly well.