Re: MPAA files new film-swapping suits
That's an interesting point. They seem to be attacking at precisely the correct rate to forcibly evolve P2P systems to be completely invulnerable to such efforts. Hum. Perhaps Tim May works for MPAA? Nah... he wasn't THAT bright, was he? -TD From: Justin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: MPAA files new film-swapping suits Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 21:59:15 + http://news.com.com/2102-1030_3-5551903.html?tag=st.util.print Hollywood studios filed a second round of lawsuits against online movie-swappers on Wednesday, stepping up legal pressure on the file-trading community. As much as I'd like to be upset, they are driving innovation of p2p software. -- War is the father and king of all, and some he shows as gods, others as men; some he makes slaves, others free. --Heraclitus (Kahn.83/D-K.53)
Re: MPAA files new film-swapping suits
On Fri, Jan 28, 2005 at 10:16:44AM -0500, Tyler Durden wrote: That's an interesting point. They seem to be attacking at precisely the correct rate to forcibly evolve P2P systems to be completely invulnerable to such efforts. Not really. The P2P assm^H^H^H^H architects are reissuing new systems with holes patched reactively. There's no reason for a P2P system designed in 1996 to be water-tight to any threat model of 2010. (Strangely enough, they had IP nazis and lawyers back then, too). Hum. Perhaps Tim May works for MPAA? Nah... he wasn't THAT bright, was he? I think he was primarily one thing: frustrated. It's hard to see the idiots win, year after year. -- Eugen* Leitl a href=http://leitl.org;leitl/a __ ICBM: 48.07078, 11.61144http://www.leitl.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE http://moleculardevices.org http://nanomachines.net pgpkvAxc7Ob3H.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: MPAA files new film-swapping suits
At 04:41 PM 1/28/05 +0100, Eugen Leitl wrote: Not really. The P2P assm^H^H^H^H architects are reissuing new systems with holes patched reactively. There's no reason for a P2P system designed in 1996 to be water-tight to any threat model of 2010. (Strangely enough, they had IP nazis and lawyers back then, too). I was surprised to see that the EFF listed ADCs as endangered tech. Because the hollywood nazis regard (and damn rightly so) the analog hole as real. That a fairly stead organization as EFF would regard the desparate death-sounds of hollywood as a serious threat to such basic tech was astounding. I've had cross-compiled code (for the MMC2107) identified as a virus (and therefore erased) by an antivirus program on a PC. This only lost an hour or two of work. Imagine that your medical measurements, or kids' performances, happen to match an ADC's copy protection codes. Imagine that all your silicon belongs to us, us=hollywood=congress. Imagine that all your printing presses belong to the State, for the protection of the commercial merde. -- Be neither perpetrator, bystander, nor victim ---a commentator on the 60th anniversary of Auswitz, coming to a goverment center near you - Uranium --the Great Equalizer
Re: MPAA files new film-swapping suits
http://news.com.com/2102-1030_3-5551903.html?tag=st.util.print Hollywood studios filed a second round of lawsuits against online movie-swappers on Wednesday, stepping up legal pressure on the file-trading community. As much as I'd like to be upset, they are driving innovation of p2p software. -- War is the father and king of all, and some he shows as gods, others as men; some he makes slaves, others free. --Heraclitus (Kahn.83/D-K.53)
Re: MPAA files new film-swapping suits
That's an interesting point. They seem to be attacking at precisely the correct rate to forcibly evolve P2P systems to be completely invulnerable to such efforts. Hum. Perhaps Tim May works for MPAA? Nah... he wasn't THAT bright, was he? -TD From: Justin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: MPAA files new film-swapping suits Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 21:59:15 + http://news.com.com/2102-1030_3-5551903.html?tag=st.util.print Hollywood studios filed a second round of lawsuits against online movie-swappers on Wednesday, stepping up legal pressure on the file-trading community. As much as I'd like to be upset, they are driving innovation of p2p software. -- War is the father and king of all, and some he shows as gods, others as men; some he makes slaves, others free. --Heraclitus (Kahn.83/D-K.53)
Re: MPAA files new film-swapping suits
On Fri, Jan 28, 2005 at 10:16:44AM -0500, Tyler Durden wrote: That's an interesting point. They seem to be attacking at precisely the correct rate to forcibly evolve P2P systems to be completely invulnerable to such efforts. Not really. The P2P assm^H^H^H^H architects are reissuing new systems with holes patched reactively. There's no reason for a P2P system designed in 1996 to be water-tight to any threat model of 2010. (Strangely enough, they had IP nazis and lawyers back then, too). Hum. Perhaps Tim May works for MPAA? Nah... he wasn't THAT bright, was he? I think he was primarily one thing: frustrated. It's hard to see the idiots win, year after year. -- Eugen* Leitl a href=http://leitl.org;leitl/a __ ICBM: 48.07078, 11.61144http://www.leitl.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE http://moleculardevices.org http://nanomachines.net pgptka0VZTih7.pgp Description: PGP signature
MPAA files new film-swapping suits
The MPAA's new software, Parent File Scan, is aimed at identifying file-swapping software applications and multimedia files on a computer, so that--in theory--parents can evaluate whether the files on their computer have been legally acquired and talk with children about the legalities of peer-to-peer activity. Cheers, RAH http://news.com.com/2102-1030_3-5551903.html?tag=st.util.print CNET News MPAA files new film-swapping suits By John Borland Story last modified Wed Jan 26 13:43:00 PST 2005 Hollywood studios filed a second round of lawsuits against online movie-swappers on Wednesday, stepping up legal pressure on the file-trading community. The Motion Picture Association of America (MPAA) also made available a new free software tool so parents can scan their computers for file-swapping programs and for movie or music files which may be copyrighted. The group said its lawsuits were targeting people across the United States, but did not say how many people were being sued. We cannot allow people to steal our motion pictures and other products online, and we will use all the options we have available to encourage people to obey the law, MPAA Chief Executive Officer Dan Glickman said in a statement. We had to resort to lawsuits as one option to help make that happen. After initially letting record labels take the lead, movie studios have launched their own aggressive legal campaigns against online film-trading in recent months, targeting individual computer users as well as Web site and server operators that serve as hubs of file-trading networks. The group filed its first set of lawsuits against individual computer users in November, and followed up with a worldwide campaign against the operators of BitTorrent, eDonkey and DirectConnect networks. As a result, some of the most popular Web sites that served as file-trading hubs, such as Suprnova.org and Yourceff.com have gone offline. At least one, LokiTorrent.com, has remained online and is soliciting donations from its visitors to pay for legal fees. The MPAA's new software, Parent File Scan, is aimed at identifying file-swapping software applications and multimedia files on a computer, so that--in theory--parents can evaluate whether the files on their computer have been legally acquired and talk with children about the legalities of peer-to-peer activity. Unlike the network-monitoring software often installed in businesses or corporate networks, the MPAA-backed software does not monitor or block downloads. In practice, the software, developed by the DtecNet Software company in Denmark, casts an extremely wide net. It searches for and identifies virtually any audio or video file, including popular formats like MP3, Microsoft's Windows Media, the AAC files that Apple Computer's iTunes software often uses, or MPEG video. The software makes no distinction between legally acquired or illegally downloaded files, however--which can total in the thousands. Parent File Scan also uses a very liberal definition of file-swapping software. In a test on a CNET News.com computer, the software identified Mirc--a client for the Internet Relay Chat network, where files can be swapped, but where tens of thousands of wholly legal conversations happen every day--and Mercora, a streaming Web radio service that uses peer-to-peer technology but does not allow file swapping. The software is primarily aimed at use by parents, and does not report any information back to the MPAA or any other group, the trade association said. -- - R. A. Hettinga mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation http://www.ibuc.com/ 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA ... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience. -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'
Re: MPAA files new film-swapping suits
http://news.com.com/2102-1030_3-5551903.html?tag=st.util.print Hollywood studios filed a second round of lawsuits against online movie-swappers on Wednesday, stepping up legal pressure on the file-trading community. As much as I'd like to be upset, they are driving innovation of p2p software. -- War is the father and king of all, and some he shows as gods, others as men; some he makes slaves, others free. --Heraclitus (Kahn.83/D-K.53)
