Re: Salon: The real enemies of the poor

2001-07-27 Thread Faustine

Jim wrote:

One article expressing one persons opinions
49 articles expressing 49 peoples opinions.

Yeah, I know it was a bit of a tangent. But read any one of them at random 
and I'll bet you'll come across a lot of things you didn't already know. 
And rather than taking one side globalism is good or globalism is bad 
(like the Salon piece), the ones I've read give plenty of justification for 
pros and cons of all kinds. 

The real enemy of the poor is complacency.

~Faustine.


On Tue, 24 Jul 2001, Faustine wrote:

 But there's no real meat here--it's the kind of thing that tells you just 
 enough to make you feel like you know what you're talking about, but 
 doesn't go nearly deep enough to be worth anything. 
 
 So what's on my summer reading list? The Institute for National Strategic 
 Studies and the National Defense University just came out with a 
 monstrously long (1124 pp.)two-volume compendium of essays: The Global 
 Century: Globalization and National Security that explores the 
 implications of globalism in 49 essays from every angle you can think of 
by 
 a collection of genuine heavy hitters. I think I'll certainly be better 
off for having invested the time in reading it.
 
 here's a link to the pdf:
 
 http://www.ndu.edu/inss/books/GlobalCentury/globcencont.html




Re: Salon: The real enemies of the poor

2001-07-26 Thread Jim Choate


On Wed, 25 Jul 2001, Faustine wrote:

 Jim wrote:
 
 What I found amusing is that you read the Salon article (probably w/o
^^^
 great enthusiasm considering it is Salon after all) and you had another
 text of articles you hadn't read but had already decided it was a worthy
 read and that you'd get something out of it. Especially since it was such 
 'weighty' material in two different contexts.
 
 Hey now, I only got the hard copy last week...you can read a lot without 
 having been through all 1124 pages!!

I agree, I did say 'amusing'...

 What about the idea of reputation capital you people are always going on 
 about, my prior knowledge of a  couple of the authors makes me certain they 
 wouldn't dream of putting their  name on sloppy work... 

I'm not one of those 'you people'. Arguments from authority are of no
worth. Past performance is not a reliable metric for future performance.
The ends never justify the means, each step must self-justify.

 I strongly want global trade and cultural exchange. I do not want global
 government or corporate enterprise. 
 
 You mean global corporate enterprise, or corporate enterprise at all?

Actually both. The 1870 law which created the modern monster of a
'corporation' should be thrown out. Corporations, and other business
organizations, should be able to sell to their like type across the
relevant 'big pond'. A corporation should not be able to exist in two
different countries as a single organization.

 I want direct interaction of business in government to be prohibited.
 
 How? Any solution I can think of has the potential to be more problematic 
 than the problem itself. 

So what solution(s) have you thought of? Quid pro Quo...

Business is an expression of individual rights. Business should not be
able to contribute in any way to the democratic process (there is a reason
that business/commerce is mentioned the way it is in the Constitution...

An observation that is sure to piss some C-A-C-L's off, but the reality is
that in 'free market' economics ala Hayek or Von Mises the potential for
'Bill Gates' wealth is nil. A 'free market' system isn't about getting
filthy rich. It's about participating in a 'community'.

Bottom line, the world is the way it is because people make it that way.
It is not an inviolate law of nature (or if you accept that then some
other precepts become questionable; free will, rational, responsible,
pre-meditation, etc. ).


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Re: Salon: The real enemies of the poor

2001-07-26 Thread Jim Choate


On Wed, 25 Jul 2001, Duncan Frissell wrote:

 At 05:53 PM 7/25/01 -0500, Jim Choate wrote:
 I strongly want global trade and cultural exchange. I do not want global
 government or corporate enterprise. I want direct interaction of business
 in government to be prohibited.
 
 Great idea.  As Frank Chodorov suggested during the McCarthy Era.  Worried 
 about communists in government jobs?  Just get rid of the government jobs.
 
 If we get rid of the government, no business involvement.  Only practical 
 way of accomplishing same.

Prohibiting direct business interaction with government isn't the same as
getting rid of government. And no, getting rid of government isn't
practical.


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Salon: The real enemies of the poor

2001-07-25 Thread Jim Choate

http://salon.com/news/feature/2001/07/23/genoa/index.html

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Re: Salon: The real enemies of the poor

2001-07-25 Thread Duncan Frissell

At 05:53 PM 7/25/01 -0500, Jim Choate wrote:
I strongly want global trade and cultural exchange. I do not want global
government or corporate enterprise. I want direct interaction of business
in government to be prohibited.

Great idea.  As Frank Chodorov suggested during the McCarthy Era.  Worried 
about communists in government jobs?  Just get rid of the government jobs.

If we get rid of the government, no business involvement.  Only practical 
way of accomplishing same.

DCF


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People, my eye, they're Democrats.
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