RE: Switzerland: Another hit for phone privacy

2003-03-13 Thread Lucky Green
Thomas Shaddack wrote:
 If anything, Twist (or how they changed the name after 
 T-Mobile took over and screwed with things) 
 (www.t-mobile.cz), Go (www.eurotel.cz), and  Oskarta (Oscard, 
 www.oskarmobil.cz) prepaid cards are quite common here.

What Swisscom's EasyRoam pre-paid SIMs offered that no other pre-paid
service that I am aware of offered, at least as of a year ago, was
roaming in nearly every country that has GSM service. Most pre-paid SIMs
are limited to roaming in just a few countries. In addition, EasyRoam
was reasonably priced. Do the providers that you mention above offer
global roaming on their pre-paids?

Thanks,
--Lucky



Re: Brinwear at Benetton.

2003-03-13 Thread Thomas Shaddack
  Hadn't knew about mu metal. Thanks. :) Could be a nice thing for EM
  shielding, especially of things like transformers.

 Don't go jumping into the abyss without some knowledge.

Right. Later I found mu-metal is just a fancy name for Permalloy which I
worked with some time ago.

 (ObCredentials: I worked inside a double-walled Faraday cage in 1972-73
 doing Josephson junction experiments with superconducting
 quantum-interferometric devices, aka SQUIDs. I did a lot of shaping and
 bending of mu metal. I also later worked near Faraday cages and had
 occasion to do more experiments in them.)

The closest encounter I had with superconductors was when I was helping a
friend with some measurements on some uranium-based ceramics. Was both
brief and nice, and I lost fear of liquid nitrogen there.

  Besides, EU plans to embed RF tags into paper money.

 Various lengths of metallic conductors are already inside various
 banknotes. This is NOT the same technology as RFID. I don't disagree
 about it being a concern, and an area for study and experiment, but be
 careful not to leap to conclusions about banknotes being a location
 finder.

I am VERY aware about the current metal strip. I am not worried about them
at all.

I am worried about the embedding of REAL RFID tags. The metal strip then
could serve dual purpose, as an anticounterfeit device itself, and as the
tag antenna. The banknotes could then carry their own history. The only
consolation is that it will get cracked within few months at most.

See here:
http://educate-yourself.org/cn/BraveNewEuro7jan02.shtml
http://www.eetimes.com/story/OEG20011219S0016

 Jamming is grossly less efficient than detection. If you want an
 explanation, let me know and I'll spend 10 minutes writing a small
 piece on it. But first, think deeply about why this is so. Think
 especially about recovering signals from noise.

Had my brush, though only theoretical, with integrating repeating signals
back at school, when I was learning how to interpret NMR spectrums and how
they work. (Good old times, it feels like yesterday.)

Sorry, hadn't specified I am not talking about RFID tags anymore; was
thinking about at least partially alleviating/sidestepping the problems
with shielding of standard desktop computers.

But will be definitely interested in the minilecture.



Switzerland: Another hit for phone privacy

2003-03-13 Thread Thomas Shaddack
Summary: Members of al-Qaeda were using prepaid cellphone accounts
purchased in Switzerland. Swiss goons figured it out, and now Switzerland
wants to register buyers of prepaid cards.

My note: It will hurt only the low-grade people. Anybody with a brain,
being a de-facto criminal or only a de-jure one, will find some of the
ridiculously easy ways to acquire one without giving out a name, or with
fake identity. The only difference will be an anonymous surcharge, if
you will know whom to ask. Another feel-good, grossly ineffective measure.
If it wouldn't be so disgusting, I'd laugh.

And the cards will be prone to be smuggled. Even if the Authorities would
manage to clamp down on the physical movements of goods (if they can't
stop tons of easy-to-smell drugs, what success is expected with
thumbprint-sized plastic cards with tiny chips), it is possible to crack
out the Ki (secret key number) from the SIM card, then send it away by an
encrypted mail and/or steganographed into a picture, and use it to clone a
new card in the place it is about to be used. With simple software for
changing IMEI, a phone that allows it (older Nokias typically should), and
a couple of Ki numbers, one phone and one card and one laptop can offer
enough of wireless identities.

If anything, Twist (or how they changed the name after T-Mobile took over
and screwed with things) (www.t-mobile.cz), Go (www.eurotel.cz), and
Oskarta (Oscard, www.oskarmobil.cz) prepaid cards are quite common here.
(Warning: Oskar tends to not use old COMP128, so the method of cloning of
their cards is unknown yet. They also AFAIK don't have good roaming,
T-Mobile is rumoured to be better. OTOH, Oskar is cheaper. OTTH, they tend
to have weird coverage.) Wondering if any changes of this are planned to
happen here. I am sure Standa Gross (our Minister of Internal Affairs) and
his Grosstapo thugs would have multiple orgasms if they would get this.
(And what are we about to expect when we'll finally join EU, and European
version of FBI (EBI) will get formed and starts pressing through EU-wide
regulations (as it's already happening, see www.statewatch.org, or
details about ENFOPOL, reportedly established with the guidance of FBI,
http://www.heise.de/tp/english/special/enfo/default.html )).

Links (Google News keywords: pre-paid mobile swiss):
http://www.swissinfo.org/sen/swissinfo.html?siteSect=105sid=1689727
http://reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=technologyNewsstoryID=2369135
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/59/29660.html

Quote: It's an American habit, to immediately make new laws the moment
something bad happens. (Mark Pieth, professor of law and criminology,
Basel University)



Re: Brinwear at Benetton.

2003-03-13 Thread R. A. Hettinga
At 4:24 AM -0800 on 3/12/03, alan wrote:


 Open up 
 a place to clean your clothes of all those little RFID tags

Oxpecker.com seems to be for sale, for a price...

:-)

Cheers,
RAH

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44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA
... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity,
[predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to
experience. -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'



Re: Claim: Quietness of computers will win out over TEMPEST surveillance

2003-03-13 Thread Bill Frantz
At 3:34 PM -0800 3/12/03, Tim May wrote:
Truly sensitive communications may be best done on laptops, even
laptops in metal mesh bags. (Either with one's head poked into the bag,
or a bag big enough to enclose the user and laptop, etc.)

You probably want to use a fiber optics cable for the link to the outside
of the bag.  Assuming that it is entirely non-conductive (fiber + the
covering), it will not tend to act as an antenna for the RF from your
laptop.

Cheers - Bill


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Re: Brinwear at Benetton.

2003-03-13 Thread Neil Johnson
RFID technology for libraries ...

http://www.demco.com/CGI-BIN/LANSAWEB?PROCFUN+LWDCWEB+LWDC025+PRD+ENG+FUNCPARMS+ZZWSESSID(A0200):29762251880047332521+ZZWNAVPAG(A0100):PROMO+DATESEQ(A0140):31210321918+FC_AZZWHDRCMP:DEMCO_HEADER+FC_AZZWNEWZON:ADM+FC_AZZWNAVPAG:PRODUCT+FC_AZZWNEWHDR:DEMCO_HEADER+FC_AZZWCATCDE:+FC_AW_KEYMSCD:+FC_SW_PRDBBID:7483

So the man can now know what books you taking on the flight (Hopefully not the 
flight training manual for the aircraft).

-- 
Neil Johnson
http://www.njohnsn.com
PGP key available on request.



Re: CDR: Re: Orwell's Victory goods come home

2003-03-13 Thread J.A. Terranson

On Wed, 12 Mar 2003, gabriel rosenkoetter wrote:

 On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 08:54:13PM -0600, J.A. Terranson wrote:
  WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The cafeteria menus in the three House office buildings
  changed the name of french fries to freedom fries, in a culinary rebuke
  of France stemming from anger over the country's refusal to support the
  U.S. position on Iraq. 
  
  Ditto for french toast, which will be known as freedom toast. 
 
 ::sigh::
 
 So, my two thoughts:
 
 1. Yeah, the French will be really insulted by our removing their
 name from a Belgian dish. Oh yeah. They're quakin'.
 
 2. We're trying to out-petty the French? The French are the pettiest
 fuckers you ever will meet![1] They still want the national dateline
 moved to Paris! They have a government bureaucracy devoted to keeping
 foreign words out of common usage in Proper French! C'mon...
 
 [1] Nothing personal against French subscribers. I'm sure at least
 30% of you are mostly reasonable people. More than that and you're
 beating out the US subscribers.

Did you read the Subject?  -- ORWELL --  You know, 1984?  Victory Gin?

Sheesh...

-- 
Yours, 
J.A. Terranson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]






Re: Brinwear at Benetton.

2003-03-13 Thread Neil Johnson
On Wednesday 12 March 2003 06:24 am, alan wrote:
 It sounds like there is an opertunity here for the right person.  Open up
 a place to clean your clothes of all those little RFID tags and other
 buglets people are so interested in attaching to any object (nailed down
 or not).

Gives new meaning to those Hane's T-shirt commericals starring Jackie Chan and 
Michael Jordan during the Superbowl. 

They were advertising their Tagless T-shirts.

I see an upsurge in handmade clothing coming too.
(of course that will have to be followed by homemade cloth, etc.)


-- 
Neil Johnson
http://www.njohnsn.com
PGP key available on request.



Re: Orwell's Victory goods come home

2003-03-13 Thread Peter Fairbrother
J.A. Terranson wrote:

 
 http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/03/11/sprj.irq.fries/index.html
 
 WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The cafeteria menus in the three House office buildings
 changed the name of french fries to freedom fries, in a culinary rebuke
 of France stemming from anger over the country's refusal to support the
 U.S. position on Iraq.
 
 Ditto for french toast, which will be known as freedom toast.

 - could actually be subversive - the French are fighting for freedom from
'merkin bullying and attempts at world domination, as much as anything
else...



Claim: Quietness of computers will win out over TEMPEST surveillance

2003-03-13 Thread Tim May
On Wednesday, March 12, 2003, at 02:40 PM, Thomas Shaddack wrote:
The closest encounter I had with superconductors was when I was 
helping a
friend with some measurements on some uranium-based ceramics. Was both
brief and nice, and I lost fear of liquid nitrogen there.
Rational fear of LN is a good thing, though. Minor splashes aren't bad, 
but enough can cause serious burns.

I also worked with uranium in ceramics, though they were not 
uranium-based (though sometimes we thought they were!).
Jamming is grossly less efficient than detection. If you want an
explanation, let me know and I'll spend 10 minutes writing a small
piece on it. But first, think deeply about why this is so. Think
especially about recovering signals from noise.
Had my brush, though only theoretical, with integrating repeating 
signals
back at school, when I was learning how to interpret NMR spectrums and 
how
they work. (Good old times, it feels like yesterday.)

Sorry, hadn't specified I am not talking about RFID tags anymore; was
thinking about at least partially alleviating/sidestepping the problems
with shielding of standard desktop computers.
But will be definitely interested in the minilecture.
Sounds like you already have the gist. There are many good ways to pull 
weak signals out of noise, either by direct integration over time or by 
chopper techniques (e.g., only looking in narrow time intervals, via 
gated integrators and boxcar averagers).

And if the RF ID tag is sending out a signal over a couple of different 
frequencies, using some pseudorandom sequence for the 
frequency-hopping, then the noise gain can be enormous. That is, an 
attacker trying to jam a spread-spectrum (Direct Sequence Spread 
Spectrum, DSSS, typically) signal will have to match and greatly exceed 
the frequences and times.

Even better, pulse systems which send out ultrawideband signals at 
various coded time points (so-called Gold codes, or Kosami codes, for 
example) are even more difficult to jam.

You mention that your point was about jamming intercepts from 
insufficiently-shielded computers, a la TEMPEST, which, by the way, is 
not an acronym (To Ensure More Private Eavesdropping-Safe 
Telecommunications--NOT).

This is similar to trying to hide phone bugs by running a background 
noise source, like a shower or a television set. But as with those 
attempts, a skilled eavesdropper can strip out nonrandom noise 
sources like music or television, thus improving S/N ratios. Or the 
quasi-random noise of a shower just adds to the baseline of noise 
already present. (And multiple detectors can help in various ways, much 
the way noise-cancellation headphones work...off the shelf consumer 
technology, so imagine what the spooks have.)

More dB of eavesdropping attenuation is gotten by reducing the signal 
than by increasing the noise, short of the equivalent of jet engines. 
Better to whisper than to speak normally but turn on cover noise 
sources elsewhere in a room.

Measuring leakage at a distance of a few centimeters is easy to do. And 
if a leakage signal is very, very small at a few centimeters, the usual 
inverse-square falloff will make it truly tiny at 100 meters or so. 
(Where a van might be parked outside one's flat, for example.)

I'm not saying RF emissions are not an issue. Much was written about 
this some years ago, even here on this list, when Van Eyck Radiation 
(just the RF) was being studied. Ross Anderson at Cambridge and his 
group have been doing lots of work on this.

Truly sensitive communications may be best done on laptops, even 
laptops in metal mesh bags. (Either with one's head poked into the bag, 
or a bag big enough to enclose the user and laptop, etc.)

There are also heads-up LCD displays now costing less than $600, which 
can be used with handheld computers and the like. Besides (likely, but 
don't quote me) low emissions from the start, a mesh hood would be very 
easy to construct, thus knocking probably another 30 dB off the already 
low emissions.

Note that the inverse-square law falloff and the vast number of 
communications is probably why the Osama Bin Laden deputy, Sheik 
Mohammed, wasn't caught because of RF emissions from his laptop, but 
instead because of an informant (as I understand things).

I would strongly bet on quietness of computers winning out over 
increased RF detection capabilities. (Needless to say, detection goes 
as the square of the antenna size, so even really large antennas don't 
have that many dB of extra capture capability, compared to quietness at 
the source.)

--Tim May
The only purpose for which power can be rightfully exercised over any 
member of a civilized community, against his will, is to prevent harm 
to others. His own good, either physical or moral, is not a sufficient 
warrant. --John Stuart Mill



Re: Switzerland: Another hit for phone privacy

2003-03-13 Thread Gabriel Rocha
On Thu, Mar 13, at 12:41AM, Lucky Green wrote:
| What Swisscom's EasyRoam pre-paid SIMs offered that no other pre-paid
| service that I am aware of offered, at least as of a year ago, was
| roaming in nearly every country that has GSM service. Most pre-paid SIMs
| are limited to roaming in just a few countries. In addition, EasyRoam
| was reasonably priced. Do the providers that you mention above offer
| global roaming on their pre-paids?

Swisscom's prepaid cell phone service does not allow one to make calls
from outside Switzerland. Receive calls, yes, make them, no. The issue
has become murky along the way. I have had two swiss pre-paid cell
phones and even while still in the Geneva area, if you're too close to
France (very easy to do here) you lose the ability to make calls because
you get caught up in a french network. Something is not being reported
or something is being misreported on this one.



Re: FC: TradeSports.com lets you bet on Saddam's survivability

2003-03-13 Thread Bill Stewart
At 01:43 AM 03/12/2003 -0500, Declan McCullagh forward to his Politech list:

Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 13:28:57 -0800
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Steve Schear [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Buy a contract on Saddam's life
At TradeSports you can buy futures contracts for all sorts of sports, plus 
Saddam's survivability

http://www.tradesports.com/jsp/intrade/contractSearch/xml/ContractSearch.jsp

steve
So do we classify this article as Information Futures or as 
Assassination Politics?  :-)



content control mafia is at it again

2003-03-13 Thread Eugen Leitl
It's this time of the year again, apparently.

http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20030312-120912-6894r

 Analysis: Germany's copyright levy

By Sam Vaknin
UPI Senior Business Correspondent
From the Business  Economics Desk
Published 3/12/2003 12:30 PM
View printer-friendly version

SKOPJE, Macedonia, March 12 (UPI) -- Based on the recommendation of its 
patent office and following fierce lobbying by VG Wort, an association of 
German composers, authors and publishers, Germany is poised to enforce a 
3-year-old law and impose a copyright levy of $13 plus 16 percent in value 
added tax per new computer sold in the country.

The money will be used to reimburse copyright holders -- artists, 
performers, recording companies, publishers and movie studios -- for 
unauthorized copying thought to weigh adversely on sales.

This is the non-binding outcome of a one-year mediation effort by the 
patent office between VG Wort, Fujitsu Siemens Computers, Germany's 
largest computer manufacturer and other makers.

VG Wort initially sought a levy of $33 per unit sold. But Fujitsu and the 
German Association for Information Technology, Telecommunications and New 
Media, known as Bitkom -- including Microsoft, IBM, Alcatel, Nokia, 
Siemens and 1,300 other member firms -- intend to challenge even the more 
modest fee in court.

They claim that it will add close to $80 million to the cost of purchasing 
computers without conferring real benefits on the levy's intended 
beneficiaries. They made similar assertions in a letter they recently 
dispatched to the European Commission.

The problems of peer-to-peer file sharing, file swapping, the cracking and 
hacking of software, music and, lately, even e-books, are serious. 
Bundesverband Phono, Germany's recording industry trade association, 
reported that music sales plunged for the fifth consecutive year -- this 
time, more than 11 percent.

According to figures offered by the admittedly biased group, 55 percent of 
the 486 million blank CDs sold in Germany last year -- about 267 million 
-- were used for illicit purposes. For every legal music CD sold, there 
are 1.7 illegal ones.

Efforts by the industries affected are under way to extend the levy to 
computer peripherals and, where not yet implemented, photocopying 
machines. Similar charges are applied already by many European countries 
to other types of equipment: tape recorders, photocopiers, video-cassettes 
and scanners, for instance.

Blank magnetic media, especially recordable CDs, are -- or have been -- 
taxed in more than 40 countries, including Canada and the United States.

Nor is Germany alone in this attempt to ameliorate the pernicious effects 
of piracy by taxing the hardware used to effect it.

The European Union's Directive on the Harmonization of Certain Aspects of 
Copyright and Related Rights in the Information Society, passed in 2001, 
is strenuous, though not prescriptive. It demands that member states 
ensure fair compensation to copyright holders for copies made by means 
of digital equipment -- but fails to specify or proscribe how. It has been 
incorporated into local law only by Greece and Denmark hitherto.

In Austria, Literar-Mechana, the copyright fees collection agency, 
negotiated with hardware manufacturers and importers the introduction of a 
levy on personal computers and printers. The Swiss are pushing through an 
amendment to the copyright law to collect a levy on PCs sold within their 
territory. The Belgian, Finnish, Spanish and French authorities are still 
debating the issue. So are Luxembourg and Norway.

According to Wired, the Canadian Private Copying Collective, the music 
industry trade group, has proposed new levies to be applied to any device 
that can store music, such as removable hard drives, recordable DVDs, 
Compact Flash memory cards and MP3 players.

Precedent is hardly encouraging.

The aforementioned Canadian collective has yet to distribute to its 
members even one tax dollar of the tens of millions it inexplicably 
hoards. In Greece, a 2 percent levy on all manner of computer equipment 
provoked a hail of legal challenges, still to be sorted out in the courts. 
The amounts collected hardly cover the government's legal expenses 
hitherto.

The United Kingdom, Ireland, Sweden and Denmark are against the levy, 
claiming, correctly, that hardware is used for purposes other than 
pilfering intellectual property digitally. The Italians, Portuguese and 
Dutch haven't even considered the option.

Hardware manufacturers are livid. In a buyers' market, their razor-thin 
profit margins on the commoditized goods they are peddling are bound to be 
erased by a copyright levy.

The European Information and Communications Trade Association implausibly 
threatens to pass on such extra costs to consumers and recommends to stick 
to technological means of prevention, collectively known as digital rights 
management systems, or to novel CD copy protection measures.

Moreover, the 

Re: Brinwear at Benetton.

2003-03-13 Thread Neil Johnson
On Wednesday 12 March 2003 09:13 pm, Neil Johnson wrote:
 RFID technology for libraries ...

 http://www.demco.com/CGI-BIN/LANSAWEB?PROCFUN+LWDCWEB+LWDC025+PRD+ENG+FUNCP
ARMS+ZZWSESSID(A0200):29762251880047332521+ZZWNAVPAG(A0100):PROMO+DATESEQ(A0
140):31210321918+FC_AZZWHDRCMP:DEMCO_HEADER+FC_AZZWNEWZON:ADM+FC_AZZWNAVPAG:
PRODUCT+FC_AZZWNEWHDR:DEMCO_HEADER+FC_AZZWCATCDE:+FC_AW_KEYMSCD:+FC_SW_PRDBB
ID:7483

 So the man can now know what books you taking on the flight (Hopefully not
 the flight training manual for the aircraft).


Oh hell, should have known better about the URL.

Goto http://www.demco.com and search for RFID.

Sorry.
-- 
Neil Johnson
http://www.njohnsn.com
PGP key available on request.



peppercoin

2003-03-13 Thread Harmon Seaver
   Anyone have any opinions on Peppercoin, a micropayment system? I don't recall
it being discussed here before. http://www.peppercoin.com/peppercoin_is.html


-- 
Harmon Seaver   
CyberShamanix
http://www.cybershamanix.com



RE: Brinwear at Benetton.

2003-03-13 Thread Thomas Shaddack
 One thing I worry about is a limited access tag - one which only
 responds when tickled with the right stimulus. Such a tag could be
 undetectable to the taggee.

A nonlinear junction detector could be a reliable way to find it.

You won't find a tag hidden in an electronics device (NLJDs are handy to
find semiconductor junctions in general, so you'd get too many false
positives.) You could find it reliably in eg. a t-shirt or a banknote,
where there is no electronics supposed to be.

Besides, if such technology will be popular enough, the readers will have
to be widely available on the open market. If there will be a code
specific for each class of the readers, it will be possible to eavesdrop
it in the vicinity of the given reader.



Pondering the banknotes. The muggers will never have to follow their
victim from a bankomat through a dark park anymore. They will just wait
there, remotely scanning the wallets of potential victims, picking the
ones stupid enough to carry more money without using a wire-mesh purse.
The cops could use it too, for picking the persons with suspicious amount
of cash - see the seizure of cash under asset forfeiture laws, dubbed
War on Cash. Just musing...



Re: Brinwear at Benetton.

2003-03-13 Thread Mike Rosing
On Thu, 13 Mar 2003, Adam Shostack wrote:

 On Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 10:22:14AM -0500, Trei, Peter wrote:
 The other motivator is liability.  If I build the mugger's little
 helper, a PDA attachement that scans for real prada bags, then perhaps
 the RFID tag will be removed at the counter after the first lawsuit.

I think economics would be a better argument.  If the manufacturer
can recycle the tags for inventory control they can save a lot of money.
10 cents per item isn't much, but at millions of items it becomes worth
while.  Having the tag removed at the counter so they can be sent back to
the manufacturer along with returns and defects saves money, and that
argument carries more weight to someone trying to make a profit than
anything else.

Patience, persistence, truth,
Dr. mike



Re: Claim: Quietness of computers will win out over TEMPEST surveillance

2003-03-13 Thread Thomas Shaddack
 Rational fear of LN is a good thing, though. Minor splashes aren't bad,
 but enough can cause serious burns.

You talk about what I call respect. :)

 I also worked with uranium in ceramics, though they were not
 uranium-based (though sometimes we thought they were!).

Black fragile thing looking like fine brick, weakly radioactive. Heavy
fermion superconductor. Memories... :)

 Sounds like you already have the gist. There are many good ways to pull
 weak signals out of noise, either by direct integration over time or by
 chopper techniques (e.g., only looking in narrow time intervals, via
 gated integrators and boxcar averagers).

I briefly seen such jamming generator, they are a real commercial product.
I think it was sensing the computer's emissions, and altering the noise
signal to counteract it. It surely wasn't a simple device.

 And if the RF ID tag is sending out a signal over a couple of
 different frequencies, using some pseudorandom sequence for the
 frequency-hopping, then the noise gain can be enormous. That is, an
 attacker trying to jam a spread-spectrum (Direct Sequence Spread
 Spectrum, DSSS, typically) signal will have to match and greatly
 exceed the frequences and times.

True. How difficult is to detect the PRESENCE of such DSSS signal?

 Even better, pulse systems which send out ultrawideband signals at
 various coded time points (so-called Gold codes, or Kosami codes, for
 example) are even more difficult to jam.

Aren't they an annoying source of noise for everything non-spread-spectrum
around?

 already present. (And multiple detectors can help in various ways, much
 the way noise-cancellation headphones work...off the shelf consumer
 technology, so imagine what the spooks have.)

I think I seen this approach even for receiving of weak TV signals.

 Measuring leakage at a distance of a few centimeters is easy to do.

How? Is there any cheap'n'easy way the interested part of the general
public (thinking about people like on this List, not the Joe Sixpack
cannon-fodder) could use? (Namely, is there some way how the detector
device could be built by someone with not-too-many experiences with high
frequencies?)

 And if a leakage signal is very, very small at a few centimeters, the
 usual inverse-square falloff will make it truly tiny at 100 meters or
 so.  (Where a van might be parked outside one's flat, for example.)

Beware of the signals that spread along the power lines.

 Truly sensitive communications may be best done on laptops, even
 laptops in metal mesh bags. (Either with one's head poked into the bag,
 or a bag big enough to enclose the user and laptop, etc.)

...or a big-enough well-grounded metal cabinet. Could additionally have
the advantage of small, enclosed space that's easier to secure and audit
than a typical room full of junk and books.

Heard LCD screens radiate surprisingly strongly. See at
http://www.eskimo.com/~joelm/tempestmisc.html

 I would strongly bet on quietness of computers winning out over
 increased RF detection capabilities. (Needless to say, detection goes
 as the square of the antenna size, so even really large antennas don't
 have that many dB of extra capture capability, compared to quietness at
 the source.)

RF is bitch. Spare tight all-metal enclosures, properly shielding a
computer system is quite nontrivial. :( A simple RF radiation leakage
detector would be a beneficial thing to have. If possible, it should be
something a slight-above-average sysadmin would be able to handle.

Hope you're right...



Re: FC: TradeSports.com lets you bet on Saddam's survivability

2003-03-13 Thread Steve Schear
At 01:59 AM 3/13/2003 -0800, Bill Stewart wrote:
At 01:43 AM 03/12/2003 -0500, Declan McCullagh forward to his Politech list:

Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 13:28:57 -0800
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Steve Schear [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Buy a contract on Saddam's life
At TradeSports you can buy futures contracts for all sorts of sports, 
plus Saddam's survivability

http://www.tradesports.com/jsp/intrade/contractSearch/xml/ContractSearch.jsp

steve
So do we classify this article as Information Futures or as 
Assassination Politics?  :-)


Information futures, to be sure since you are free to wager on either side.

steve



RE: Unauthorized Journalists to be shot at

2003-03-13 Thread Trei, Peter
 Sunder[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/29750.html
 
 Airstrike! The Pentagon simplifies media relations
 By John Lettice
 Posted: 13/03/2003 at 17:10 GMT
 
 Should war in the Gulf commence, the Pentagon proposes to take
 radical new steps in media relations - 'unauthorised' journalists will be
 shot at. Speaking on The Sunday Show on Ireland's RTE1 last sunday veteran
 war reporter Kate Adie said she had been warned by a senior Pentagon
 official that uplinks, i.e. TV broadcasts or satellite phones, that are
 detected by US aircraft are likely to be fired on.
 
ok. A loitering US plane equipped with HARMs (High explosive 
Anti Radiation Missiles) detects a satellite uplink from within or 
just our side of the front line (or even out front). It lacks the 
correct IFF codes.

Is it:

1. An journalist doing what he was specifically told not to do?
2. An Iraqi or Al-Queda forward fire director, calling in coordinates
for a VX loaded missile attack on your side.

If you wait, and it's a bad guy, the signal will be lost, and you can't use
your missiles. The attack will take place, and your friends will die.

Make a decision.

Now.

Peter Trei



Unauthorized Journalists to be shot at

2003-03-13 Thread Sunder
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/29750.html

Airstrike! The Pentagon simplifies media relations
By John Lettice
Posted: 13/03/2003 at 17:10 GMT

Should war in the Gulf commence, the Pentagon proposes to take
radical new steps in media relations - 'unauthorised' journalists will be
shot at. Speaking on The Sunday Show on Ireland's RTE1 last sunday veteran
war reporter Kate Adie said she had been warned by a senior Pentagon
official that uplinks, i.e. TV broadcasts or satellite phones, that are
detected by US aircraft are likely to be fired on.

SNIP

Hey, we're fighting for freedom after all, the freedom to suppress the
truth...  So how soon before France is on the Axis of Evil? :)



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Re: Brinwear at Benetton.

2003-03-13 Thread Major Variola (ret)
04:24 AM 3/12/03 -0800, alan wrote:
It sounds like there is an opertunity here for the right person.  Open
up
a place to clean your clothes of all those little RFID tags and other

buglets people are so interested in attaching to any object (nailed
down
or not).

Our Premium service includes checking for isotopic tracers (see Stasi),
magnetic/plastic layered (see smokeless powder) tags, and UV fluorescent
spy
tracing powders (see http://www.covertcomic.com/CCSchool.htm
spy dust).

--Cypherpunk Laundry Division



RE: Unauthorized Journalists to be shot at

2003-03-13 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 02:04 PM 3/13/03 -0500, Trei, Peter wrote:

Is it:

1. An journalist doing what he was specifically told not to do?
2. An Iraqi or Al-Queda forward fire director, calling in coordinates
for a VX loaded missile attack on your side.

I'd think that the troops would explain this to the reporters tagging
along
as they confiscate all their transmitters before an op.  I simply
wouldn't
trust the reporters, even though they're toast too if someone mis-IFFs.

Its a lot more serious than not shutting off your cell phone on a
plane.  Besides, I doubt
the reporters have Iraq's FCC's clearance to use those frequencies
there, until we extend
the Little Powell's authority to that domain. :-)



RE: Unauthorized Journalists to be shot at

2003-03-13 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Thu, 13 Mar 2003, Trei, Peter wrote:

 1. An journalist doing what he was specifically told not to do?

Most probably. Those pesky civilians. No backbone, no way to gag them by
extreme sanctioning after perfunctory tribunal.

 2. An Iraqi or Al-Queda forward fire director, calling in coordinates
 for a VX loaded missile attack on your side.

They don't have anything stronger than dirty sarin or crappy lost. Tipping
bad SCUD clones.
 
 If you wait, and it's a bad guy, the signal will be lost, and you can't use
 your missiles. The attack will take place, and your friends will die.

All they want is to blow up enough journalists to deter them from
reporting from hot areas thus acting as a leak thus acting as bad PR 
(Merkins don't do shredded meat by FAE, minimally invasive peachy-clean 
strategical surgery strictly).
 
 Make a decision.

Nuke Washinton D.C.? Done.
 
 Now.

That one was easy.



war criminals, all of em...

2003-03-13 Thread Cardenas
On Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 11:22:09AM -0800, Eric Cordian wrote:
 Sunder writes:

  Should war in the Gulf commence, the Pentagon proposes to take
  radical new steps in media relations - 'unauthorised' journalists will be
  shot at. Speaking on The Sunday Show on Ireland's RTE1 last sunday
veteran
  war reporter Kate Adie said she had been warned by a senior Pentagon
  official that uplinks, i.e. TV broadcasts or satellite phones, that are
  detected by US aircraft are likely to be fired on.

 This is nothing new.  Radio and TV stations and other unauthorized
 sources of information are always first on the target list whenever the US
 starts a war.


But its still a violation of the geneva conventions to kill civilians,
lets not forget. Just like in Serbia...

http://www.balkanpeace.org/lan/lan03.shtml

Our government is just full of war criminals. Thus their refusal to be
in the ICC founding in the Hague this week.

 I think the Pentagon spokeshomo put it this way.  Propaganda outlets ARE
 military targets.  Propaganda being anything not released by the
 Pentagon, of course.

of course.


 Have you seen this lovely new media room in Qatar that Hollywood is
 building as a set for Iraq war briefings?

   In front of the stage, two 70-inch projection screens and five
50-inch plasma screens will flash maps, graphics and crystal-clear
video images of war-zone action. In the background will hang a
soft-focus elongated map of the world, as if to imply that the
entire globe is united behind the United States.

   I like to achieve a level of detail that makes it difficult to
distinguish a set from reality, Mr. Allison recently told the
Times Union newspaper in Albany, N.Y.



http://www.globetechnology.com/servlet/ArticleNews/gtnews/TGAM/20030312/UTVTV
M

i hadn't heard about that. thanks. makes the bile rise in my throat.

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Re: Unauthorized Journalists to be shot at

2003-03-13 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 11:54 AM 3/13/03 -0500, Sunder wrote:

Hey, we're fighting for freedom after all, the freedom to suppress the
truth...  So how soon before France is on the Axis of Evil? :)


Well, if they're giving info to Mr. Hussein their embassy there could
be NIMA'd, as in oops, we hit the Chinese consulate in Yugoslavia,
but it was a mapping error.

Taking out Paris would probably require more explanation.

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Re: Brinwear at Benetton.

2003-03-13 Thread Adam Shostack
On Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 11:57:27AM -0500, Tyler Durden wrote:
| If I build the mugger's little
| helper, a PDA attachement that scans for real prada bags, then perhaps
| the RFID tag will be removed at the counter after the first lawsuit.
| 
| Nice! Possibly, it might not even be necessary for the Little Helper to 
| read the tag, only detect its presence. Counterfeit bags probably won't 
| have the tag, and if they do (and the copies are good enough), the mugger 
| won't care.

We designed the Pickpocket's pal to detect large amounts of currency
this way.  It just helps you size up your victim, or at least size up
their wad of cash.

(There were some complications, because the tags do try not to chat at
the same time, but hey, how well designed do you think a 10c item is?)

Adam

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Re: Brinwear at Benetton.

2003-03-13 Thread Tyler Durden
1972-73 doing Josephson junction experiments with superconducting 
quantum-interferometric devices, aka SQUIDs

Isn't that a little early for SQUIDs?

-TD



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The darkest side of ID theft

2003-03-13 Thread gann
(apologies if this has been discussed already)

The darkest side of ID theft - When impostors are arrested, victims get 
criminal records...

Malcolm Byrd was home with his two children on a Saturday night when a knock 
came at the door. Three Rock County, Wis., sheriff’s officers were there with a 
warrant for Byrd’s arrest. Cocaine possession, with intent to distribute, it 
said. Byrd tried to tell them that they had the wrong man, that it was a case 
of mistaken identity, that he was a victim of identity theft. But they wouldn’t 
listen. Instead they put him in handcuffs and drove him away. Again.

http://www.msnbc.com/news/877978.asp



Re: Switzerland: Another hit for phone privacy

2003-03-13 Thread Tyler Durden
Anybody with a brain,
being a de-facto criminal or only a de-jure one, will find some of the
ridiculously easy ways to acquire one without giving out a name, ...
Well, what they should do is obvious. Post a big sign at the point of sale 
saying Use of phone cards for terrorist activities is illegal and will be 
prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

-TD





From: Thomas Shaddack [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: cypherpunks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Switzerland: Another hit for phone privacy
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 03:06:58 +0100 (CET)
Summary: Members of al-Qaeda were using prepaid cellphone accounts
purchased in Switzerland. Swiss goons figured it out, and now Switzerland
wants to register buyers of prepaid cards.
My note: It will hurt only the low-grade people. Anybody with a brain,
being a de-facto criminal or only a de-jure one, will find some of the
ridiculously easy ways to acquire one without giving out a name, or with
fake identity. The only difference will be an anonymous surcharge, if
you will know whom to ask. Another feel-good, grossly ineffective measure.
If it wouldn't be so disgusting, I'd laugh.
And the cards will be prone to be smuggled. Even if the Authorities would
manage to clamp down on the physical movements of goods (if they can't
stop tons of easy-to-smell drugs, what success is expected with
thumbprint-sized plastic cards with tiny chips), it is possible to crack
out the Ki (secret key number) from the SIM card, then send it away by an
encrypted mail and/or steganographed into a picture, and use it to clone a
new card in the place it is about to be used. With simple software for
changing IMEI, a phone that allows it (older Nokias typically should), and
a couple of Ki numbers, one phone and one card and one laptop can offer
enough of wireless identities.
If anything, Twist (or how they changed the name after T-Mobile took over
and screwed with things) (www.t-mobile.cz), Go (www.eurotel.cz), and
Oskarta (Oscard, www.oskarmobil.cz) prepaid cards are quite common here.
(Warning: Oskar tends to not use old COMP128, so the method of cloning of
their cards is unknown yet. They also AFAIK don't have good roaming,
T-Mobile is rumoured to be better. OTOH, Oskar is cheaper. OTTH, they tend
to have weird coverage.) Wondering if any changes of this are planned to
happen here. I am sure Standa Gross (our Minister of Internal Affairs) and
his Grosstapo thugs would have multiple orgasms if they would get this.
(And what are we about to expect when we'll finally join EU, and European
version of FBI (EBI) will get formed and starts pressing through EU-wide
regulations (as it's already happening, see www.statewatch.org, or
details about ENFOPOL, reportedly established with the guidance of FBI,
http://www.heise.de/tp/english/special/enfo/default.html )).
Links (Google News keywords: pre-paid mobile swiss):
http://www.swissinfo.org/sen/swissinfo.html?siteSect=105sid=1689727
http://reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=technologyNewsstoryID=2369135
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/59/29660.html
Quote: It's an American habit, to immediately make new laws the moment
something bad happens. (Mark Pieth, professor of law and criminology,
Basel University)


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