RE: Osama's makeover

2004-10-31 Thread Tyler Durden
Yeah...wasn't there an X-Files that was similar? I remember someone picking 
up a photo of Sadam Hussein and the TLA-dude saying, Him? He was a truck 
driver in Detroit we found.

Perhaps the reason Bush hasn't 'caught' bin Laden yet is because he thinks 
he (ie, Bush) will win the election. He does have Florida locked up...

-TD
From: Major Variola (ret) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Osama's makeover
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 21:23:19 -0700
At 05:23 PM 10/30/04 -0700, John Young wrote:
Which returns to the Osama make-over. His nose looks
much bigger, longer and wider, eyes closer together. The
sage-of-the-desert color combination of his face and hands,
beard, robe, hat and backdrop look as if it was shot in
New Mexico, or maybe Israel pretending Lawrence of
Arabia remake.
And did you see the wire up his back and the earpiece?
Or maybe its hard to get good tailors in Pakistan.
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Re: Winning still matters, etc...

2004-10-31 Thread James A. Donald
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At 05:09 PM 10/30/04 -0400, R.A. Hettinga wrote:
  The terrorists cannot win either a conventional or an 
  asymmetrical war against the United States, should it bring 
  its full array of assets to the struggle.

Major Variola
 The large pit of smoldering radioactive glass is probably not 
 an option..

Why not?

You keep assuming that Muslims unite, escalate, etc, but if 
they do, US will escalate also.

In fact, there is not much the Islamicists can do to escalate
beyond their current extremes.   There is a great deal the US
could do to escalate beyone its current measures. 

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Re: Winning still matters, etc...

2004-10-31 Thread John Young
To state the obvious to Major Variola, CDC will have first
indication of a devastating US attack, reported fragmentarily
under its links to hospitals, clinics and physicians, against 
which the might military and law enforcement have no defenses.

By time the attack is understood it will be too late to mount
a national defense. Food and water are the means and methods,
not the hardware and electronic infrastructure, seaports and
airports, so loudly warned about. The last terrorist attack is not
the next one.

Elderly and children first to show the signs. Those not watched
all that carefully by the big warfighters, indeed overlooked by
design, so disdainful are they of caregivers.



Re: Osama's makeover

2004-10-31 Thread Bill Stewart
At 08:23 PM 10/30/2004, Major Variola (ret) wrote:
And did you see the wire up his back and the earpiece?
Or maybe its hard to get good tailors in Pakistan.
Nah - he's allowed to use a Teleprompter,
unlike Bush and Kerry at the debate-o-mercials.
And unlike Bush, he can actually read.


Bill Stewart  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 



Re: Osama's makeover

2004-10-31 Thread R.A. Hettinga
At 1:18 PM -0800 10/31/04, Major Variola (ret) wrote:
And unlike Bush, he can actually read.

C'mon Bill, that's not fair.

You keep thinking that, Mr. Pox. That's just the way he likes it...

Cheers,
RAH
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The New York Times

October 24, 2004
POLITICAL POINTS

Secret Weapon for Bush?
By JOHN TIERNEY


To Bush-bashers, it may be the most infuriating revelation yet from the
military records of the two presidential candidates: the young George W.
Bush probably had a higher I.Q. than did the young John Kerry.

 That, at least, is the conclusion of Steve Sailer, a conservative
columnist at the Web magazine Vdare.com and a veteran student of
presidential I.Q.'s. During the last presidential campaign Mr. Sailer
estimated from Mr. Bush's SAT score (1206) that his I.Q. was in the
mid-120's, about 10 points lower than Al Gore's.

 Mr. Kerry's SAT score is not known, but now Mr. Sailer has done a
comparison of the intelligence tests in the candidates' military records.
They are not formal I.Q. tests, but Mr. Sailer says they are similar enough
to make reasonable extrapolations.

Mr. Bush's score on the Air Force Officer Qualifying Test at age 22 again
suggests that his I.Q was the mid-120's, putting Mr. Bush in about the 95th
percentile of the population, according to Mr. Sailer. Mr. Kerry's I.Q. was
about 120, in the 91st percentile, according to Mr. Sailer's extrapolation
of his score at age 22 on the Navy Officer Qualification Test.

Linda Gottfredson, an I.Q. expert at the University of Delaware, called it
a creditable analysis said she was not surprised at the results or that so
many people had assumed that Mr. Kerry was smarter. People will often be
misled into thinking someone is brighter if he says something complicated
they can't understand, Professor Gottfredson said.

 Many Americans still believe a report that began circulating on the
Internet three years ago, and was quoted in Doonesbury, that Mr. Bush's
I.Q. was 91, the lowest of any modern American president. But that report
from the non-existent Lovenstein Institute turned out to be a hoax.

 You might expect Kerry campaign officials, who have worried that their
candidate's intellectual image turns off voters, to quickly rush out a
commercial trumpeting these new results, but for some reason they seem to
be resisting the temptation.

Upon hearing of their candidate's score, Michael Meehan, a spokesman for
the senator, said merely: The true test is not where you start out in
life, but what you do with those God-given talents. John Kerry's 40 years
of public service puts him in the top percentile on that measure.
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Re: Osama's makeover

2004-10-31 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 12:03 PM 10/31/04 -0800, Bill Stewart wrote:
At 08:23 PM 10/30/2004, Major Variola (ret) wrote:
And did you see the wire up his back and the earpiece?

Or maybe its hard to get good tailors in Pakistan.

Nah - he's allowed to use a Teleprompter,
unlike Bush and Kerry at the debate-o-mercials.

And unlike Bush, he can actually read.

C'mon Bill, that's not fair.  Even Osama commented on how
Bush was making good progress on that book about the goats
in the school on 9/11.  How W didn't even want to put it down,
he enjoyed it so much.

His fine reading skills even got shown in Fahrenheight 911,
along with some amusing footage of his handlers,
and that's a documentary, so it must be true.





Re: Winning still matters, etc...

2004-10-31 Thread Major Variola (ret)
12:22 AM 10/31/04 -0700, James A. Donald wrote:
Major Variola
 The large pit of smoldering radioactive glass is probably not
 an option..

Why not?

They're called downwinders.  Which way do the winds blow in the middle
east?

You keep assuming that Muslims unite, escalate, etc, but if
they do, US will escalate also.

No, I assume you can nuke whereever you want, just because we can.
This is my take on your thesis that we are discussing.  Kicking hegemony

up a notch, finishing the job, let's roll...  It will get easier when a
US city
gets nuked.

The folks on the West coast might not like a few trillion curies in
their soup even
if we did get rid of the Indonesian Problem in the process.
Maybe they just need to suck it up,
ask not what their country can do for them, but how they can bend over
for it.
Childhood leukemia is getting easier to cure anyway.






Re: Winning still matters, etc...

2004-10-31 Thread John Young
There is a decreasing chance the US can apply its military
might to defeat an unconventional enemy. That kind of enemy
is not what long-standing military strategy and most tactics
are aimed at. Rumsfeld was hoping to revise that when yet
one more mighty military war appeared to head off changing
military policy.

The US has demonstrated in Afghanistan and post-Hussein
Iraq that it does not know how to fight unconventionally. That
inability appeared in Korea, then Viet Nam and has been shown
in every combat the US has engaged in since WW 2.

Military professionals know this and are hamstrung by the
narcotic dependency the defense industry and its beneficiaries
has for big iron and every bigger and more expensive platforms.
This has been coupled with gigantism in intelligence, big science
and big technological research advocated and overseen by giant
corporations and institutions. And to gloss this a huge spin
and propoganda machine has been funded to pump up the
threats and the hefty defense tax boondogling.

Special forces and operations were devised to piss-ant an alternative 
to this spread across the US pork-barrell behemothicism. But they 
have seldom been applied beyond pinprick displays, with much 
hoorahing about their stealthy effectiveness: we can tell you about 
our successes, only failures make it to the media.

Commentators have noted the corrupting influence of empire
Britain thinking its global navy would assure continuance of
hegemony. The more that conceit was believed the weaker
the military became by its failure to recognize new forms of
warfare and new ways of thinking. That empire was undermined
by non-hegemonic forms of combat and thinking.

The US might get a bye with its arrogant belief in military might
for another generation if its lucky, if unlucky it will not survive this 
one. Well, parts of it may survive, away from the cities. Imagine
one of the few cypherpunks holed-up in northwest Utah and
one bunkered in Corralito escape the food-and-water-borne 
disease.

President Attila or May?



Re: Winning still matters, etc...

2004-10-31 Thread R.A. Hettinga
At 1:12 PM -0800 10/31/04, Major Variola (ret) wrote:
 Which way do the winds blow in the middle
east?

East of Jerusalem. :-).

Cheers,
RAH

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experience. -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'