Re: Fallujah: Marine Eye-Witness Report

2004-11-24 Thread Bill Stewart
At 10:02 PM 11/23/2004, James A. Donald wrote:
 And the problem with a civil war in Iraq is?
Well, once you get past the invalid and dishonest parts of
Bush's 57 reasons We Need to Invade Iraq Right Now
(WMDs, Al-Qaeda, Tried to kill Bush's Daddy, etc.)
you're pretty much left with Saddam tried to kill Bush's Daddy
and Replacing the EEEVil dictator Saddam with a Democracy
to protect the Iraqi people.  Pulling off the latter
requires that you leave them with something better
than a civil war, though it's not clear that
what they're getting right now _is_ better than a civil war.



Re: Fallujah: Marine Eye-Witness Report

2004-11-24 Thread Tyler Durden
James A Donald wrote...

And the problem with a civil war in Iraq is?
And the answer is: 9/11 sucked.
Oh wait, I guess I have to explain that. After the Soviets were pushed out 
of Afghanistan the place became a veritable breeding ground for all sorts of 
virulent strains of Islam, warlords, and so on. Iraq would likely denigrate 
into the same, eventually launching similarly nice little activities.

-TD



Re: Fallujah: Marine Eye-Witness Report

2004-11-24 Thread John Kelsey
From: James A. Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Nov 24, 2004 1:02 AM
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Subject: Re: Fallujah: Marine Eye-Witness Report

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And the problem with a civil war in Iraq is?

At least three:

a.  The pottery barn theory of foreign affairs--we'd be blamed for making 
things worse.  (I don't know how much this matters long term, but it would 
certainly have made life pretty hard on Tony Blair and the rest of the world 
leaders who actually supported us.)

b.  We would one day like their oil back on the market.

c.  We would like to make sure that the next regime to come to power there 
isn't someone we also feel obligated to get rid of, as even invasions done on 
the cheap cost a lot of money.  


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 James A. Donald

--John



Re: Fallujah: Marine Eye-Witness Report

2004-11-24 Thread R.A. Hettinga
At 1:05 PM -0500 11/24/04, John Kelsey wrote:
effective guerrilla warfare against
US troops.

Uh, huh...Just for fun, see the title of this thread.

;-)

Cheers,
RAH

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