Re: [Clips] Finger points to British intelligence as al-Qaeda websites are wiped out

2005-08-02 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Mon, Aug 01, 2005 at 05:12:38PM -0400, Dan McDonald wrote:

 I'm surprised that the target node has that much INBOUND bandwidth, quite
 frankly.

The node itself has only a Fast Ethernet port, but there's 
some 4 GBit available outside of the router.

I'm genuinely glad the node has been taken offline as soon
as the traffic started coming in in buckets, and I didn't
have to foot the entire bill (the whole incident only
cost me 20-30 GByte overall as far as I can tell).

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Re: [Clips] Finger points to British intelligence as al-Qaeda websites are wiped out

2005-08-02 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Mon, Aug 01, 2005 at 01:51:57PM -0400, Tyler Durden wrote:

 What?!! 300MB/s for a Tor node? OK, I'm a telecom guy and not a data guy 
 but that sounds suspiciously like someone loaded up an OC-3's worth of 
 traffic and then slammed your node. Ain't no hacker gonna do that. Any 
 indication the ostensible originating IP addresses are faked?

No, it looked like a vanilla DDoS. According to the hoster, I've only
seen a small piece of the log, which looked like this:

09:21:54.322650 IP 67.9.36.207  213.239.210.243: icmp
09:21:54.322776 IP 218.102.186.215  213.239.210.243: icmp
09:21:54.322895 IP 24.242.31.137  213.239.210.243: icmp
09:21:54.323017 IP 61.62.83.208  213.239.210.243: icmp
09:21:54.323140 IP 68.197.59.153  213.239.210.243: icmp
09:21:54.323263 IP 202.138.17.65  213.239.210.243: icmp
09:21:54.323375 IP 221.171.34.81  213.239.210.243: icmp 1376: echo
request seq 23306
09:21:54.323500 IP 150.199.172.221  213.239.210.243: icmp
09:21:54.323623 IP 62.150.154.191  213.239.210.243: icmp
09:21:54.323741 IP 221.231.54.152  213.239.210.243: icmp
09:21:54.323863 IP 222.241.149.165  213.239.210.243: icmp 1456: echo
request seq 24842
09:21:54.323984 IP 61.81.134.200  213.239.210.243: icmp
09:21:54.324105 IP 60.20.101.125  213.239.210.243: icmp
09:21:54.324227 IP 219.77.117.204  213.239.210.243: icmp
09:21:54.324229 IP 85.98.134.51  213.239.210.243: icmp
09:21:54.324355 IP 61.149.3.249  213.239.210.243: icmp
09:21:54.324475 IP 218.9.240.32  213.239.210.243: icmp 1456: echo
request seq 29962
09:21:54.324598 IP 24.115.79.52  213.239.210.243: icmp
09:21:54.324720 IP 12.217.75.61  213.239.210.243: icmp
09:21:54.324844 IP 202.161.4.210  213.239.210.243: icmp
09:21:54.324847 IP 139.4.150.122.14238  213.239.209.107.80: R
2598318330:2598318330(0) win 0
09:21:54.324973 IP 211.203.38.29  213.239.210.243: icmp
09:21:54.325101 IP 68.74.58.171  213.239.210.243: icmp
09:21:54.325240 IP 211.214.159.102  213.239.210.243: icmp
09:21:54.325341 IP 221.231.53.52  213.239.210.243: icmp
09:21:54.325465 IP 24.20.194.42  213.239.210.243: icmp

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Re: [Clips] Finger points to British intelligence as al-Qaeda websites are wiped out

2005-08-02 Thread Tyler Durden
Actually, I did know that 300Mb/sec isn't super-huge for Denial of Service 
attacks at least, but this is an obscure Tor node. Someone attacking it at 
this stage in the game has a real agenda (perhaps they want to see if 
certain websites get disrupted? Does Tor work that way for short-ish periods 
of time?)


At 4Gb/s into the router, I'd guess that router is hooked up to 2 GbEs 
mapped over a pair of OC-48s (Sounds a lot like the architecture Cisco has 
sold certain GbE-centered Datapipe providers.) Your attacker might actually 
be interested in pre-stressing the infrastructure in front of that router.


Just a guess, but I'm stupid after all.

-TD


From: Eugen Leitl [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Dan McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Clips] Finger points to British intelligence as al-Qaeda  
websites are wiped out

Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 10:15:49 +0200

On Mon, Aug 01, 2005 at 05:12:38PM -0400, Dan McDonald wrote:

 I'm surprised that the target node has that much INBOUND bandwidth, 
quite

 frankly.

The node itself has only a Fast Ethernet port, but there's
some 4 GBit available outside of the router.

I'm genuinely glad the node has been taken offline as soon
as the traffic started coming in in buckets, and I didn't
have to foot the entire bill (the whole incident only
cost me 20-30 GByte overall as far as I can tell).

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