Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: Tor on USB]
On Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 07:44:36PM -0400, Tyler Durden wrote: In other words, if I go into a Starbucks with this thing, can my laptop or whatever start acting like a temporary Tor node? I don't see why not, you'd be just middleman. If you want to wind up on this list http://serifos.eecs.harvard.edu:8000/cgi-bin/exit.pl you'll have to submit your stats, and it will take a day or two. That's a very fascinating concept: A temporary, transient Tor network. Any node on this network could cease to exist by the time someone tried to jam large portions of it. Or at least, their attacks would have to be a hell of a lot more flexible. An ephemeral P2P traffic remixing system with high node density in address space could bootstrap very quickly just from rendezvousing/scanning some random net blocks. -- Eugen* Leitl a href=http://leitl.org;leitl/a __ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820http://www.leitl.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: Tor on USB]
Thus spake Bill Stewart ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [04/09/05 01:27]: : At 08:53 AM 9/3/2005, Damian Gerow wrote: : Though, you can just skip all that, walk in to Starbucks, sit down, and : start using your TOR node as your own entry point. No registration, no : wait, no nothing: just sit down and go. I just set a node up a few days : ago, and was surprised at how simple it was to get TOR up and going. : : How does TOR feel about NAT and various firewall things? : I've been at hotels where I can't even get my ipsec VPN to work. Well, the running a server won't work well: http://wiki.noreply.org/noreply/TheOnionRouter/TorFAQ#head-802c24d6b147d55961204105863eed70362ed57f But given that it's just initiating outbound TCP connections, so long as the firewall permits connections on those ports, it /should/ work fine. Give it a shot, see how it works.
Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: Tor on USB]
Thus spake Tyler Durden ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [02/09/05 19:45]: : How long will it take the Greater Tor Network to notice the existence of : this little node? A few days after you register. : In other words, if I go into a Starbucks with this thing, can my laptop or : whatever start acting like a temporary Tor node? Yep. But I'm not sure you'd want to do that... AFAIK, TOR can handle dynamic addresses. So long as you've got a public address, you can act as a TOR entry/exit point. So you could, in theory, set up a TOR entry/exit point on your local Starbuck's network. All you'd have to do is register, and jump a few hoops to register your dynamic address. I don't know if the same holds true if it's not a public address. Though, you can just skip all that, walk in to Starbucks, sit down, and start using your TOR node as your own entry point. No registration, no wait, no nothing: just sit down and go. I just set a node up a few days ago, and was surprised at how simple it was to get TOR up and going.
RE: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: Tor on USB]
Fascinating little gizmo. Got a question...sorry I'm just too f'in busy to keep up with this side, but... How long will it take the Greater Tor Network to notice the existence of this little node? In other words, if I go into a Starbucks with this thing, can my laptop or whatever start acting like a temporary Tor node? That's a very fascinating concept: A temporary, transient Tor network. Any node on this network could cease to exist by the time someone tried to jam large portions of it. Or at least, their attacks would have to be a hell of a lot more flexible. -TD From: Eugen Leitl [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: Tor on USB] Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 16:42:27 +0200 - Forwarded message from Paul Syverson [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: Paul Syverson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 10:22:22 -0400 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Paul Syverson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Tor on USB User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] You might also see the following commercial distribution that bundles Tor, a tiny linux, and related software on a USB stick http://www.virtualprivacymachine.com/products.html Looks cool and got favorable reviews, but I haven't used or examined it first hand. This is a pointer, not an endorsement. -Paul On Tue, Aug 30, 2005 at 12:47:32AM -0500, Arrakis Tor wrote: Interesting implementation. You could use it at a public terminal, a friend's computer, or for plausible deniability on your own computer. On 8/29/05, Shatadal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Arrakis Tor wrote: Can firefox be installed to run standalone whatsoever? Yep. Check out http://johnhaller.com/jh/mozilla/portable_firefox/ and http://portablefirefox.mozdev.org/ - End forwarded message - -- Eugen* Leitl a href=http://leitl.org;leitl/a __ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820http://www.leitl.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature which had a name of signature.asc]
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At 08:53 AM 9/3/2005, Damian Gerow wrote: Though, you can just skip all that, walk in to Starbucks, sit down, and start using your TOR node as your own entry point. No registration, no wait, no nothing: just sit down and go. I just set a node up a few days ago, and was surprised at how simple it was to get TOR up and going. How does TOR feel about NAT and various firewall things? I've been at hotels where I can't even get my ipsec VPN to work.
