Re: [rationalchatter] Interesting Trial - IRS trial - July 11th (fwd)

2005-05-12 Thread Steve Thompson

--- Tyler Durden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yeah...it's pretty fuckin' pointless. Tantamount to proving a guy
 pointing a 
 gun at you is actually pointing a gun at you, TO the guy pointing the
 gun at 
 you.

Oh, I don't know about that.  

What about proving that someone is pointing a [gun] at you, who has
already lets you know he's pointing a [gun] at you via deniable means of
some kind, but who categorically denies such when asked about it directly.
 In that vague scenario, I would imagine that there is some utility in
proving conclusively that someone is pointing a [gun] at you if only to
warn others around you about the threat.

I, of course, live a similar scenario.  The main difference is that it is
a group with a somewhat unethical agenda that poses the threat, and who
swear up and down that (a) they are all really, really nice people, and
(b) that they have no actual interest in my affairs.  Both assertions are
quite false, but proving it is another matter -- and difficult too, given
the ignorance and stupidity currently in fashion at the moment.

But I don't mean to provoke an off-topic discussion in this thread. 
Please do carry on.


Regards,

Steve


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[rationalchatter] Interesting Trial - IRS trial - July 11th (fwd)

2005-05-10 Thread J.A. Terranson

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Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 17:45:35 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: [rationalchatter] Interesting Trial - IRS trial - July 11th

This is an interesting trial.  Men with guns.

Tessa and Larken Rose may be sent to jail.

Watch 3 min. - video - http://www.861.info/tessa.html

Trial starts July 11th.  There is a petition to encourage that it be videotaped.




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Re: [rationalchatter] Interesting Trial - IRS trial - July 11th (fwd)

2005-05-10 Thread Tyler Durden
Yeah...it's pretty fuckin' pointless. Tantamount to proving a guy pointing a 
gun at you is actually pointing a gun at you, TO the guy pointing the gun at 
you.

-TD
From: Gil Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [rationalchatter] Interesting Trial - IRS trial - July 11th   
(fwd)
Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 12:40:17 +

-- Forwarded message --
Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 17:45:35 -0700 (PDT)
From: marc guttman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [rationalchatter] Interesting Trial - IRS trial - July 11th
This is an interesting trial.  Men with guns.
Tessa and Larken Rose may be sent to jail.
Watch 3 min. - video - http://www.861.info/tessa.html
Trial starts July 11th.  There is a petition to encourage that it be 
videotaped.
While anyone can empathize with their desire not to pay taxes and
many of us can even disagree with the moral justification for taxes,
these people are idiots.  Their entire case boils down to quibbles
over arguably poorly worded regulations.  And even if you take their
argument at face value, if you go read the sections of the Code of
Federal Regulations they cite, they're just plain wrong: they're willfully
misreading the plain language of the regulations.  (Okay, plain
language is probably not the right phrase to apply to any part of
the CFR, but...)
They're definitely going down; probably to jail, but at the least they'll
be subject to massive fines, property seizures, etc.
Nothing to see here, folks; move along.
GH
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Re: [rationalchatter] Interesting Trial - IRS trial - July 11th (fwd)

2005-05-10 Thread Gil Hamilton
-- Forwarded message --
Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 17:45:35 -0700 (PDT)
From: marc guttman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [rationalchatter] Interesting Trial - IRS trial - July 11th
This is an interesting trial.  Men with guns.
Tessa and Larken Rose may be sent to jail.
Watch 3 min. - video - http://www.861.info/tessa.html
Trial starts July 11th.  There is a petition to encourage that it be 
videotaped.
While anyone can empathize with their desire not to pay taxes and
many of us can even disagree with the moral justification for taxes,
these people are idiots.  Their entire case boils down to quibbles
over arguably poorly worded regulations.  And even if you take their
argument at face value, if you go read the sections of the Code of
Federal Regulations they cite, they're just plain wrong: they're willfully
misreading the plain language of the regulations.  (Okay, plain
language is probably not the right phrase to apply to any part of
the CFR, but...)
They're definitely going down; probably to jail, but at the least they'll
be subject to massive fines, property seizures, etc.
Nothing to see here, folks; move along.
GH
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RE: [rationalchatter] Interesting Trial - IRS trial - July 11th (fwd)

2005-05-10 Thread Tyler Durden
Man, that chic's a little dizzy. Good sweater meat, though.
-TD

From: J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [rationalchatter] Interesting Trial - IRS trial - July 11th  (fwd)
Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 19:46:34 -0500 (CDT)
-- Forwarded message --
Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 17:45:35 -0700 (PDT)
From: marc guttman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [rationalchatter] Interesting Trial - IRS trial - July 11th
This is an interesting trial.  Men with guns.
Tessa and Larken Rose may be sent to jail.
Watch 3 min. - video - http://www.861.info/tessa.html
Trial starts July 11th.  There is a petition to encourage that it be 
videotaped.


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