Re: Orwell's Victory goods come home
On Sat, 15 Mar 2003 18:12:19 -0600, you wrote: On Saturday 15 March 2003 12:55 pm, Anonymous via the Cypherpunks Tonga Remailer wrote: On Sat, 15 Mar 2003 14:25:51 +, you wrote: So which American on the list is going to write to Congress to demand that the Statue of Liberty be sent back to France? Ken It really should go back to France, as the US seems to care less about liberty than when it received that gift, and France now has quite a profile of opposing foreign domination (from the US) over its policies and interests. So far as I can tell tell, the US approach to other nations is essentially shut up and do what we tell you to do if you love freedom. Americans tend to also forget that the French provided a lot of support for the colonies during the American Revolution. Without the fleet of Admiral Comte de Grasse at Yorktown, and the assistance of the Marquis de Lafayette, the revolution would have surely been lost and Washington, Jefferson, Franklin, Adams, Madison and the rest would have hanged at London Tower. Maybe we would be more accurate to consider our role for the French in WW1 and 2 to be in compensation for our freedom from the British.
Re: Orwell's Victory goods come home
On Saturday 15 March 2003 12:55 pm, Anonymous via the Cypherpunks Tonga Remailer wrote: On Sat, 15 Mar 2003 14:25:51 +, you wrote: So which American on the list is going to write to Congress to demand that the Statue of Liberty be sent back to France? Ken It really should go back to France, as the US seems to care less about liberty than when it received that gift, and France now has quite a profile of opposing foreign domination (from the US) over its policies and interests. So far as I can tell tell, the US approach to other nations is essentially shut up and do what we tell you to do if you love freedom. Americans tend to also forget that the French provided a lot of support for the colonies during the American Revolution. -- Neil Johnson http://www.njohnsn.com PGP key available on request.
Re: Orwell's Victory goods come home
So which American on the list is going to write to Congress to demand that the Statue of Liberty be sent back to France? Ken
Re: Orwell's Victory goods come home
On Sat, 15 Mar 2003 14:25:51 +, you wrote: So which American on the list is going to write to Congress to demand that the Statue of Liberty be sent back to France? Ken It really should go back to France, as the US seems to care less about liberty than when it received that gift, and France now has quite a profile of opposing foreign domination (from the US) over its policies and interests. So far as I can tell tell, the US approach to other nations is essentially shut up and do what we tell you to do if you love freedom.
Re: CDR: Re: Orwell's Victory goods come home
On Wed, 12 Mar 2003, gabriel rosenkoetter wrote: On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 08:54:13PM -0600, J.A. Terranson wrote: WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The cafeteria menus in the three House office buildings changed the name of french fries to freedom fries, in a culinary rebuke of France stemming from anger over the country's refusal to support the U.S. position on Iraq. Ditto for french toast, which will be known as freedom toast. ::sigh:: So, my two thoughts: 1. Yeah, the French will be really insulted by our removing their name from a Belgian dish. Oh yeah. They're quakin'. 2. We're trying to out-petty the French? The French are the pettiest fuckers you ever will meet![1] They still want the national dateline moved to Paris! They have a government bureaucracy devoted to keeping foreign words out of common usage in Proper French! C'mon... [1] Nothing personal against French subscribers. I'm sure at least 30% of you are mostly reasonable people. More than that and you're beating out the US subscribers. Did you read the Subject? -- ORWELL -- You know, 1984? Victory Gin? Sheesh... -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Orwell's Victory goods come home
J.A. Terranson wrote: http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/03/11/sprj.irq.fries/index.html WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The cafeteria menus in the three House office buildings changed the name of french fries to freedom fries, in a culinary rebuke of France stemming from anger over the country's refusal to support the U.S. position on Iraq. Ditto for french toast, which will be known as freedom toast. - could actually be subversive - the French are fighting for freedom from 'merkin bullying and attempts at world domination, as much as anything else...
