Re: Congress Close to Establishing Rules for Driver's Licenses
J.A. Terranson wrote: Which of course neatly sidesteps the issue that a DRIVERS LICENSE is not identification, it is proof you have some minimum competency to operate a motor vehicle... IIRC, several states have taken to issuing a no compentency driving licence (ie, the area that says what that licence allows you to drive/ride, normally occupied by car, motorcycle, truck or whatever, is blank) purely for use as identification. Few liquor stores (for example) accept anything else.
Re: Congress Close to Establishing Rules for Driver's Licenses
Dave Howe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Few liquor stores (for example) accept anything else. ..except (ta-d) the passport, which is universally accepted by liquor stores AFAICT. Imagine that. An _actual_ document of identification being used for approximately the correct purpose. -- Riad S. Wahby [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Congress Close to Establishing Rules for Driver's Licenses
Riad S. Wahby wrote: ...except (ta-d) the passport, which is universally accepted by liquor stores AFAICT. And how many americans have a passport,and carry one for identification purposes?
Re: Congress Close to Establishing Rules for Driver's Licenses
Dave Howe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And how many americans have a passport,and carry one for identification purposes? Probably not all that many. Tangentially, I was once told that, at least in Massachusetts liquor stores, even an _expired_ passport was useful identification. Can anyone confirm that this is true other than at Sav-Mor Liquors? -- Riad S. Wahby [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Congress Close to Establishing Rules for Driver's Licenses
Right, just because your Passport or driver's license expired, doesn't mean that you got any younger and therefore shouldn't drink. --Kaos-Keraunos-Kybernetos--- + ^ + :Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. /|\ \|/ :They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country /\|/\ --*--:and our people, and neither do we. -G. W. Bush, 2004.08.05 \/|\/ /|\ : \|/ + v + :War is Peace, freedom is slavery, Bush is President. - On Tue, 12 Oct 2004, Riad S. Wahby wrote: Tangentially, I was once told that, at least in Massachusetts liquor stores, even an _expired_ passport was useful identification. Can anyone confirm that this is true other than at Sav-Mor Liquors?
Re: Congress Close to Establishing Rules for Driver's Licenses
Can't specifically confirm that, but this last summer I traveled to several countries (and back into the US) using an expired passport as ID (and no, they didn't just forget to read the date, the expired passport was officially acceptable). -TD From: Riad S. Wahby [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Cypherpunks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Congress Close to Establishing Rules for Driver's Licenses Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 10:09:26 -0500 Dave Howe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And how many americans have a passport,and carry one for identification purposes? Probably not all that many. Tangentially, I was once told that, at least in Massachusetts liquor stores, even an _expired_ passport was useful identification. Can anyone confirm that this is true other than at Sav-Mor Liquors? -- Riad S. Wahby [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/
Re: Congress Close to Establishing Rules for Driver's Licenses
In both houses, the legislation is geared to respond to numerous recommendations made by the Sept. 11 commission. For years before the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, law enforcement officials, especially those concerned with identity theft, argued that the states should have more rigorous standards for issuing driver's licenses. But the commission pointed out that fraud in identification documents is no longer just a problem of theft. Which of course neatly sidesteps the issue that a DRIVERS LICENSE is not identification, it is proof you have some minimum competency to operate a motor vehicle... -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0xBD4A95BF An ill wind is stalking while evil stars whir and all the gold apples go bad to the core S. Plath, Temper of Time