Re: Savvis dropping major spammers (cypherpunk sighting.)

2004-09-09 Thread J.A. Terranson

On Wed, 8 Sep 2004, Bill Stewart wrote:

 http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/3634572.stm

 John Young and John Gilmore aren't the only cypherpunks
 in the news lately.  J. Alif Terranson was in a BBC article
 about getting the company to agree to drop the
 hundred or so major spammers who've been using their network.

 Some of them are former CW customers, some are new,
 and they've been estimated to be about $2M/month business for Savvis,
 so this is a non-trivial step for Savvis.
 On the other hand, Savvis risked getting its whole network blacklisted
 by the major spam anti-spam groups if it didn't do something.

 We'll see if they follow through.

The actual memos are at http://www.savvis.info

Other articles (mostly with greater detail) include:

http://www.nwfusion.com/edge/news/2004/0908leakmemos.html
http://www.computerworld.com/managementtopics/outsourcing/isptelecom/story/0,108
01,95769,00.html
http://arstechnica.com/news/posts/20040908-4168.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3634572.stm
http://techdirt.com/articles/20040908/103247.shtml
http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=4985alloc_id=10663site_id=1request_id=1806376

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Savvis dropping major spammers (cypherpunk sighting.)

2004-09-09 Thread Bill Stewart

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/3634572.stm
John Young and John Gilmore aren't the only cypherpunks
in the news lately.  J. Alif Terranson was in a BBC article
about getting the company to agree to drop the
hundred or so major spammers who've been using their network.
Some of them are former CW customers, some are new,
and they've been estimated to be about $2M/month business for Savvis,
so this is a non-trivial step for Savvis.
On the other hand, Savvis risked getting its whole network blacklisted
by the major spam anti-spam groups if it didn't do something.
We'll see if they follow through. 



Re: Savvis dropping major spammers (cypherpunk sighting.)

2004-09-09 Thread Tyler Durden
I see Savvis has a sales office in a Building I used to work in here in NYC. 
They also seem to be be somewhat deadbeat-ish with respect to paying some of 
their bills, so I bet they need that Spam revenue. That exec probably needed 
that revenue in order to qualify for some absurd bonus.

-TD


From: J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Bill Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: Savvis dropping major spammers (cypherpunk sighting.)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2004 18:45:52 -0500 (CDT)
On Wed, 8 Sep 2004, Bill Stewart wrote:
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/3634572.stm

 John Young and John Gilmore aren't the only cypherpunks
 in the news lately.  J. Alif Terranson was in a BBC article
 about getting the company to agree to drop the
 hundred or so major spammers who've been using their network.

 Some of them are former CW customers, some are new,
 and they've been estimated to be about $2M/month business for Savvis,
 so this is a non-trivial step for Savvis.
 On the other hand, Savvis risked getting its whole network blacklisted
 by the major spam anti-spam groups if it didn't do something.

 We'll see if they follow through.
The actual memos are at http://www.savvis.info
Other articles (mostly with greater detail) include:
http://www.nwfusion.com/edge/news/2004/0908leakmemos.html
http://www.computerworld.com/managementtopics/outsourcing/isptelecom/story/0,108
01,95769,00.html
http://arstechnica.com/news/posts/20040908-4168.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3634572.stm
http://techdirt.com/articles/20040908/103247.shtml
http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=4985alloc_id=10663site_id=1request_id=1806376
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  not.  And people's rights will not be harmed if the opponent speaks out
  about them.  Osama Bin Laden
- - -
  There aught to be limits to freedom!George Bush
- - -
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Re: Savvis dropping major spammers (cypherpunk sighting.)

2004-09-09 Thread J.A. Terranson
On Wed, 8 Sep 2004, Tyler Durden wrote:

 I see Savvis has a sales office in a Building I used to work in here in NYC.
 They also seem to be be somewhat deadbeat-ish with respect to paying some of
 their bills,

Um, yeah  They even forgot to pay the renewal for their domain name
around two years ago!  Now *that* was funny!

 so I bet they need that Spam revenue. That exec probably needed
 that revenue in order to qualify for some absurd bonus.

That is *precisely* how it works.  No makie the numbers, no takeee the
$500,000.00 (really) annual bonus.

 -TD


-- 
Yours,

J.A. Terranson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
0xBD4A95BF

  ...justice is a duty towards those whom you love and those whom you do
  not.  And people's rights will not be harmed if the opponent speaks out
  about them.  Osama Bin Laden
- - -

  There aught to be limits to freedom!George Bush
- - -

Which one scares you more?